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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 07/06/2007 : 09:16:16
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6729051.stm
On Radio 5 Live this morning
a Postal worker was saying why the changes are wrong.
He said it is more about working practices
His example was a route he does and two other people do,
he finishes 2 hours ahead
due to his efficiency, so Royal Mail will then put him on
other duties for those two hours.
But he did the whole job.
So long as he does the Whole route
then it should not matter if he does it quicker.
Sign Of The Times.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/06/2007 : 09:23:55
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| By that reasoning, if a route takes longer ... because of say additional post loads like at Christmas time, then they should not expect overtime either. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6444 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2007 : 09:29:39
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quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder
By that reasoning, if a route takes longer ... because of say additional post loads like at Christmas time, then they should not expect overtime either.
They have agreements on all this,
on that BBC radio 5 interview
he also said they deliver TNT post
for next to nothing.
He said they are waiting for the Royal Mail sell off. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/06/2007 : 09:37:17
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| If he is employed to work 'x' number of hours then he should work 'x' number of hours. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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The Duke of Uranus
Barsoom
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Posted - 07/06/2007 : 09:38:04
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quote:
He said it is more about working practices
His example was a route he does and two other people do,
he finishes 2 hours ahead
due to his efficiency, so Royal Mail will then put him on
other duties for those two hours.
But he did the whole job.
Would he prefer it if they paid him per letter delivered? Probably not.
Would he prefer it if they paid him an hourly rate and sent him home when he'd finished so he could earn less money? Probably not.
FACT is, a lot of people working in this country are contracted for x amount of hours a week. If they finish whatever work they're doing early they do something else until the end of the day. This is nothing new and i don't see why the royal mail should be treated differently. |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6444 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2007 : 09:41:02
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Sure Duke,
but they had a a agreement on this.
Royal Mail Strikes cause big problems to many. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5317 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2007 : 09:43:23
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Originally posted by long time no see
Sure Duke,
but they had a a agreement on this.
Royal Mail Strikes cause big problems to many.
What exactly was the agreement LTNS? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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FUBAR
Barsoom
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Posted - 07/06/2007 : 11:37:57
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He should get his strike in while he can then. By the time he gets back to the depot one day the government will have sold them all off. Privatisation is on the way so a strike will only help the government not the posties. By the way, why doesn't he use the traditional American postal service method of dispute resolution......... |
I came into the world with nothing and still have most of it left.. |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6444 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2007 : 20:40:21
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quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
Sure Duke,
but they had a a agreement on this.
Royal Mail Strikes cause big problems to many.
What exactly was the agreement LTNS?
I ain't a Postman. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5317 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2007 : 20:50:30
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Originally posted by long time no see
I ain't a Postman.
I didn't mean to imply that you were a postman LTNS however you do seem to think that this 'agreement' is important so I wondered whether you knew what the exact agreement was, that's all. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6444 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2007 : 21:15:33
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That is what he said
on the Live radio.
I think too long for him to go into. |
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The Duke of Uranus
Barsoom
293 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2007 : 23:16:05
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I ain't a Postman.
*thinks "The Postman Always Rings Twice"*
*falls off chair* |
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camelot
Barsoom
USA
294 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2007 : 02:04:26
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quote:
Originally posted by FUBAR
By the way, why doesn't he use the traditional American postal service method of dispute resolution.........
hey now! ...
I think the US postal service is mostly obsolete anyway...their function is being replaced by Fax, Email, UPS and Fed Ex...perhaps the Royal Mail is in the same position??? How much mail is left? With Online banking and bill payment our family mail is mostly "third class" advertisements and junk mail. |
Edited by - camelot on 08/06/2007 02:10:18 |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5317 Posts |
 Posted - 08/06/2007 : 10:09:21
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Originally posted by long time no see
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1269407,00.html
The Strike is set for the next 28 days.
Sign Of The Times.
I hope you mean sometime within the next 28 days rather then the next 28 days LTNS   |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6444 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2007 : 10:48:02
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FUBAR
Barsoom
391 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2007 : 18:25:53
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As pointed out by a Mr Bill Bryson...the Royal Mail delivers the post but the American Postal Service delivers the mail..... |
I came into the world with nothing and still have most of it left.. |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6444 Posts |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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FUBAR
Barsoom
391 Posts |
Posted - 29/06/2007 : 12:18:08
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| Maybe we should all write and tell them how disgust....sorry..... |
I came into the world with nothing and still have most of it left.. |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6444 Posts |
Posted - 29/06/2007 : 12:18:52
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| The Strikers do not have the Public support. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5317 Posts |
Posted - 29/06/2007 : 12:24:23
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| No wonder I didn't get any post today ... a day off from final demands, red letters and other assorted brown envelopes ... Bliss! |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6444 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2007 : 15:53:48
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The next Postal strike
is 12th of july evening to 13th of july.
SkyNews Live. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5317 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2007 : 15:59:03
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| Oh well, I never get any post in the evening so it is really only the morning of the 13th that I'm effected by it. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6444 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2007 : 16:01:17
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It puts the whole system back by many days
Royal Mail is in a mess
they need to sort this out. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5317 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2007 : 16:04:16
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| 24 hours? I doubt it has that much effect LTNS. Though they will use it as an excuse of course. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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United Kingdom
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The Duke of Uranus
Barsoom
293 Posts |
Posted - 20/09/2007 : 16:19:49
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| Whats up lt? Worried you won't receive your colonic irrigation kit in time for the weekend? |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6444 Posts |
Posted - 20/09/2007 : 17:21:47
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quote:
Originally posted by The Duke of Uranus
Whats up lt?
Run a Small Business
that has to deal with Posting
and you can soon find out you can go out of Business
on two Big Strikes.
pathetic New Labour
Under Brown. |
Edited by - long time no see on 20/09/2007 17:23:20 |
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The Duke of Uranus
Barsoom
293 Posts |
Posted - 20/09/2007 : 17:24:20
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
quote:
Originally posted by The Duke of Uranus
Whats up lt?
Run a Small Business
that has to deal with Posting
and you can soon find out you can go out of Business
on two Big Strikes.
pathetic New Labour
Under Brown.
Ever heard of e mail or fax for documents and (pathetic American) UPS for parcels? |
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Postal Strike