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| Infinite Poppadum |
Posted - 31/03/2007 : 22:15:15
Of course no Forum is complete without a little musing over the fate of this seafront site... |
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| Control Panel |
Posted - 17/07/2008 : 20:59:16
Latest Homes has a page about "projects" still likely to go ahead but... the King Alfred is not mentioned. |
| Furzewick |
Posted - 17/07/2008 : 16:31:57
Amongst the chaos that is now the Argus website (shameless copy/paste) :
quote:
Chance to grill King Alfred scheme building chief
12:10pm Thursday 17th July 2008
The developer behind the £290 million King Alfred scheme will be answering readers’ questions in the next Friday Inquisition.
Josh Arghiros, of Karis Holdings, hopes to bring life to Frank Gehry’s vision for a new King Alfred Leisure Centre in Hove.
He will be sitting in The Argus hot seat answering questions on anything relating to the controversial development from 11.30am.
The long-awaited initiative includes more than 700 seafront homes and a replacement leisure centre and was approved by Brighton and Hove City Council last year. But its future was thrown into doubt when Mr Arghiros expressed fears an economic downturn could cause financiers ING to back down.
Still talk of 'Frank Gehry's vision'. No news from a recent visit to London reached the Argus ? |
| Miriam Binder |
Posted - 16/07/2008 : 17:33:21
I'll do it for what he quotes minus 5%   |
| Daveb |
Posted - 16/07/2008 : 17:30:19
Can I run a study? Good Rates! |
| Miriam Binder |
Posted - 16/07/2008 : 17:20:07
I wonder how much it wil cost us this time around? |
| Control Panel |
Posted - 16/07/2008 : 17:09:31
If Karis cannot build according to the plans for which permission was given, then it cannot have any claim upon the land.
Starting over... |
| Furzewick |
Posted - 16/07/2008 : 10:45:43
quote:
From B.O.B. in the Well, the i360 is coming topic
Will the agreement with Karis become nul and void if Gehry has pulled out and this scheme doesn't get built or have Karis now got hold of the site for the remainder of the lease? What have the Councillors signed away?
Yes, where do the council stand (along with council tax payers money) now the love fest with Gehry is over ?
The whole thing was promoted on the basis of how wonderful Gehry is (was) and what this would do for Brighton ??
Planning permission has been given so what does that mean now ? A sports centre ? A swimming pool ? A block of flats ? A hole in the ground ?
Building Design : Credit crunch threatens Gehry's Hove scheme
http://www.bdonline.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=725&storycode=3117279&c=1&encCode=00000000017ba57c
BBC Retail slowdown hits construction
(Radio 4 File on 4 Radio programme)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7493831.stm
Background Information
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-23aa70c5.html
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| Daveb |
Posted - 13/07/2008 : 12:08:41
Most new builds on brown field site will be flats because they are more profitable for devolpers.
At least at KA no work has started and IF, we are lucky then some good may come from it. I susupect however it will fall into neglect and becomes even more of an eyesore.
Whereas the 300 new flats being built in Saltdean have come to a stop, half built. This eyesore will remain for some time.
Luckily it looks like all the social housing will be completed. Deep Joy! |
| Miriam Binder |
Posted - 13/07/2008 : 11:13:37
Maybe Control Panel put two and two together and came up with four. Namely most new builds are flats - and rather high-rise flats at that. |
| Observer |
Posted - 13/07/2008 : 11:09:24
Dear Panel, you must have posted a different article to the one you described. This one doesn't once mention the word 'flats', it merely says that building is slowing down because of the mortgage squeeze. Nor does it say the Government is keen on high-density flats in particular, which would be untrue anyway hence the 'eco' towns. |
| Daveb |
Posted - 12/07/2008 : 18:46:32
Lets us hope a fix can be found that can regenerate the current building and facilties or build a new complex from council funds.
I am talking about a sports facilty, no flats.
In this time of impending depression the council needs to generate real jobs and I am sure all the parkings fines and cutting a few psuedo jobs in the council will help fund it. |
| Miriam Binder |
Posted - 12/07/2008 : 17:09:42
Oh yes ... I almost feel vindicated. |
| Control Panel |
Posted - 12/07/2008 : 16:32:21
This report states that there are too many flats for sale, and not selling. Especially "new build".
The Government has been insisting on high-density flats when English people do not want them.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2285871/Number-of-homes-being-built-at-lowest-rate-since-1990s.html |
| Furzewick |
Posted - 10/07/2008 : 18:34:24
Not to mention in Latest Homes |
| Control Panel |
Posted - 10/07/2008 : 10:02:09
Why is the Council being so slow to announce something which is being stated nationally, in print and on the airwaves by the very designer of (part of ) the building? |
| Furzewick |
Posted - 09/07/2008 : 21:19:23
He was heard on Radio 4 this evening saying "we're not doing it".
In another report Piers Gough even made a comment about Gehry. Fancy that ! |
| Control Panel |
Posted - 09/07/2008 : 19:04:53
Another report about Gehry's "aborted" seaside towers in Hove.
If this is what Gehry continues to say, then it is certainly all off.
What next?
http://arts.guardian.co.uk/art/architecture/story/0,,2289852,00.html |
| Miriam Binder |
Posted - 04/07/2008 : 09:49:39
Someone should really look at holding the ones who made these ludicrous agreements accountable. |
| birdy |
Posted - 04/07/2008 : 09:28:02
what if council tax payers have to pay for the shortfall in costs for the development,an agreement signed by the developer and the council in 2006.what if they drop the sports centre?
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| Miriam Binder |
Posted - 03/07/2008 : 07:04:44
quote:
Originally posted by B.O.B.
Does Karis have control of the site to sell on?
Please say it isn't so ...
(that Josh could fall into a cesspit and come up smelling of roses!)
(It was never going to deliver on the 'free sport centre' ...) |
| B.O.B. |
Posted - 03/07/2008 : 06:46:42
Does Karis have control of the site to sell on? It hasn't delivered on the 'free' sports centre as was the deal. |
| Control Panel |
Posted - 02/07/2008 : 10:38:08
Now that the Karis scheme has collapsed, what will happen to the site? |
| Furzewick |
Posted - 01/07/2008 : 23:49:15
Here is something
http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/generalnews/display.var.2373799.0.credit_crunch_puts_king_alfred_in_doubt.php |
| birdy |
Posted - 01/07/2008 : 22:13:47
Front page of tomorrows argus (if it doesn't get pulled)should feature some news regarding todays guardian interveiw with frank gehry,more or less admitting that those ugly perimeter blocks were not his idea and how he was forced to design higher.Also about a meeting scheduled for 3 weeks time with ing,karis and the council,,i hope and i will be praying that the plug is about to be pooled,,scuse the pun,and we can get down to refurbishing the original pools that lie beneath the badminton halls and build a much needed school for the area instead of forcing my local school to have prefabs in the playground and bullying the next door school into losing its tennis courts and field to add on more classes to an already overcapacity enviroment.
And saving the area from a development that is so detrimental to human life it beggars belief that is still being thought about. |
| Infinite Poppadum |
Posted - 06/06/2008 : 10:14:56
Will Brighton and Hove Council provide free swimming by 2012, as the Government has today announced?
This will make for an interesting factor in the KA costs. |
| thedelboy |
Posted - 01/06/2008 : 18:07:55
Is it true "Greggs" will be bought out by "starbucks"?link WWW.BULLSHITZU>COM |
| Infinite Poppadum |
Posted - 31/05/2008 : 09:22:53
This article shows that Gehry's design in New York brings bays in the apartments.
So, why in Hove, are his curves merely bolted-on struts? And why didn't he design all of it?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/31/arts/design/31beek.html?_r=1&ref=arts&oref=slogin |
| FG1 |
Posted - 23/05/2008 : 09:55:16
No development this year. From KA website.
How long before planning permission falls when nothing happens? |
| Daveb |
Posted - 20/05/2008 : 10:19:38
It is cheaper and you can go when you want.
I prefer to run and walk etc outside.
Down side is that it is cold and wet at times.
You can get chased by dogs and seagulls, tread in all sorts of wonderful things, get abuse from teenagers when running through town and look a pratt when exercising in the park.
So maybe a gym is better?????????????????? |
| Infinite Poppadum |
Posted - 20/05/2008 : 10:07:59
Here is a report which shows how much better, quicker and cheaper it is to exercise in the open air than at gyms. More people realise this.
http://lifeandhealth.guardian.co.uk/wellbeing/story/0,,2281051,00.html |
