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long time no see Posted - 25/10/2007 : 22:20:50
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/question_time/7060728.stm

At last Question Time has George
on the Panel again tonight.


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Borninhove Posted - 31/10/2007 : 11:04:15
And if you don't we'll send round Rage Boy and Mrs. Galloway:



RESPECT!!! I DEMAND RESPECT!!!!!!
Daveb Posted - 31/10/2007 : 06:48:56
In which case Respect will have to be renamed Expect.

We EXPECT you to follow our rules.
Borninhove Posted - 31/10/2007 : 04:08:43
Yes, the cracks in the green/red alliance are showing. Although they share a hatred of American free-market capitalism and culture, that is not really enough to keep people of such disparate views together. I wonder if the Respect manifesto will now jetison such SWP ideas the right to choose one's religion or lack thereof, respect for people regardless of their sexual orientation and equal rights for women. Not very Halal, any of them.
Denise Posted - 30/10/2007 : 22:36:55
quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder

quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

Yes George has much to say
but best Live.
And not re-edited by his Hate club.

Good job there aren't any members of his 'hate-club' on these forums then isn't it



I met George a while ago (getting about a bit just lately, Miriam!). As a politician he was no less brusque than you'd expect, but he does have a way of charming people.

It would be nice to like him, but I found he was far too ready to gloss over Muslim faults and rather too eager to highlight those of others. It's the same blinkered vision that has always hobbled the left.

As you might be aware, George is fighting off the efforts of the SWP to take over Respect, and a couple of weeks ago attended a meeting of Respect's Tower Hamlets branch (its biggest) which he took over, quite unconstitutionally. His motives may have been good - to stop Respect from being hi-jacked by a small group of plotters - but one has to question the judgement of a man who stormed in like a bull in a china shop, regardless of the legal consequences.
Daveb Posted - 30/10/2007 : 13:36:12
Did I mention that IMHO I do not like the opinions of George.
If that means in the opinion of others I hate him then that is their opinion. If they think that their opinion is better than mine then that is also fine as long as I can disagree with their opinion.
Opinions can be formed by meeting people, reading books & newspapers, watching TV news & debate etc. The then formed opinion will always differ from person to person depending on if they have other opinions on the subject in question.


Miriam Binder Posted - 30/10/2007 : 08:51:28
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

Yes George has much to say
but best Live.
And not re-edited by his Hate club.

Good job there aren't any members of his 'hate-club' on these forums then isn't it
long time no see Posted - 30/10/2007 : 08:40:35
Yes George has much to say
but best Live.
And not re-edited by his Hate club.
Borninhove Posted - 30/10/2007 : 05:25:33
Yes, that was entertaining, as George usually is, but interestingly it was Sen. Joe Lieberman, the Democrat, who punctured the pompous poseur's balloon during that hearing.



Some George quotes:

quote:
"If you are asking did I support the Soviet Union, yes I did. Yes, I did support the Soviet Union, and I think the disappearance of the Soviet Union is the biggest catastrophe of my life."

"I have never seen a barrel of oil, owned one, bought one, sold one - and neither has anyone on my behalf."

"As for Gordon Brown - I've described him and Blair as two cheeks of the same arse."

"Some believe that those aeroplanes on September 11 came out of a clear blue sky. I believe they came out of a swamp of hatred created by us."

"Bush, and Blair, and the prime minister of Japan, and Berlusconi, these people are criminals, and they are responsible for mass murder in the world, for the war, and for the occupation, through their support for Israel, and through their support for a globalized capitalist economic system, which is the biggest killer the world has ever known. It has killed far more people than Adolf Hitler. It has killed far more people than George Bush. The economic system which these people support, which leaves most of the people in the world hungry, and without clean water to drink. So we're going to put them on trial, the leaders."



camelot Posted - 30/10/2007 : 02:28:29
I do not know how his constituents feel about him ....But it was really a bright spot in a bleak time for me when he handed my US Congress their *ss on his visit here.
Daveb Posted - 29/10/2007 : 21:03:28
Perhaps Anubis being such a close associate of George can list all of his achievements?

Tell us why he is deserting his electorate in Tower Hamletts and what he actulaly did for them?

Or maybe the next time you run into him, while looking at the market instead of where you are going make sure you are on your high horse and leave a few hoof prints.
long time no see Posted - 29/10/2007 : 12:15:34
Yes Anubis
Great points.
He is best on a Live Debate.
Miriam Binder Posted - 29/10/2007 : 09:36:43
quote:
Originally posted by Borninhove

You obviously haven't spoken to many Iraqis. This is a comment of mind-beggaring ignorance. The sort of thing George might come out with, in fact.

Not to say ethno-centric arrogance!
Borninhove Posted - 29/10/2007 : 09:16:17
anubis
quote:
the Saudi chieftain (compared to whom the late Saddam represented the pinnacle of free speech and democracy!)
You obviously haven't spoken to many Iraqis. This is a comment of mind-beggaring ignorance. The sort of thing George might come out with, in fact.
Miriam Binder Posted - 29/10/2007 : 09:13:42
I think I have made my position regarding Gorgeous George sufficiently clear. The man is, as BiH quite rightly puts it, a "deluded egomaniac who appeals to the more tinfoilhat-wearing segment of the community" ... I assume the man has a degree of intelligence and it is the assumption of intelligence that leads me to see him as a megalomaniac. Then again, if he is acting the way he is because he sincerely believes that is the way forward then I might have to rethink the assumption of intelligence.
Anubis Posted - 29/10/2007 : 08:55:15
quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder

Galloway is a a self serving megalomaniac!



It's a pity Miriam that you so often reduce what can be serious and open discussions to the level of personal insults -- not only vis-a-vis other posters, but now to George G. Whether he is 'mentally ill' suffering from 'delusions of power' is not really relevant to the very important matters raised by George, most recently during the David A TV debate.
(Obviously to his friends and family and those who know him, your use of the term is perceived as so 'out of place' they must wonder if they should mail you a copy of the OED!?)

Supporters of today's political hierarchy, busy entertaining the Saudi chieftain (compared to whom the late Saddam represented the pinnacle of free speech and democracy!) obviously use their power, control and manipulation of the media to misrepresent those who SERIOUSLY threaten to expose their criminal acts ... especially now, as they prepare to extend their middle eastern atrocious wars to Iran... Even if your diagnosis of pathology were correct it would be as relevant as Beethoven's declared 'preference for trees rather than people' if we were assessing his ninth symphony.

If you have critical comments about things George said on the programme, please share them with us.
thedelboy Posted - 28/10/2007 : 21:02:36
agreed but to an extent
Miriam Binder Posted - 28/10/2007 : 12:36:33
quote:
Originally posted by thedelboy

are we all not self serving? as I have said I do not agree with a lot of what he says but right from the beggining he has been outspoken and very much in the limelight,when he agreed with Labours policies he was their wunderkind but as soon as he disagreed he was ostracised; he was even framed by the government (alledgedly)of accepting bribes from Hussain(subsequently found not guilty)

Some of us more so then others. He serves a purpose in that his antics draw attention away from the serious stuff that people should be concentrating on.
long time no see Posted - 28/10/2007 : 12:35:41
Yes he makes the Panel on TV come alive.
His Radio show is doing well.
thedelboy Posted - 28/10/2007 : 12:32:28
are we all not self serving? as I have said I do not agree with a lot of what he says but right from the beggining he has been outspoken and very much in the limelight,when he agreed with Labours policies he was their wunderkind but as soon as he disagreed he was ostracised; he was even framed by the government (alledgedly)of accepting bribes from Hussain(subsequently found not guilty)
long time no see Posted - 28/10/2007 : 12:30:21
quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder

Galloway is a a self serving megalomaniac!




So is Blair.
Miriam Binder Posted - 28/10/2007 : 12:28:03
Galloway is a a self serving megalomaniac!
long time no see Posted - 28/10/2007 : 12:23:50
That is Very True Delboy.

That is why when he is on a Debate
it is Great.
thedelboy Posted - 28/10/2007 : 12:20:43
George Galloway actually speaks his mind and as far as I can see is very honest,(rare amongst governmental types)although I do not agree with a lot of what he says and does;that does not stop me liking his directness
long time no see Posted - 28/10/2007 : 10:46:05
Yes good Remix (& text added)
again.
Borninhove Posted - 28/10/2007 : 10:44:37
Not Neo-conservative, South Park Conservative. I'm not as polarised as you seem to want to portray me.

By the way, I think the photo of George you published from the BBC Website has been doctored. In fact, the BBC had got that photo for an upcoming series of advertisements for Greggs featuring top British comedians.



Thus wee pasty wull fill ye up quick! And it's 100% Halal!
long time no see Posted - 28/10/2007 : 10:23:38
Yes you should have some of Your Remixes on his Site
he make like them.

Hate is the right word to be used
for a Neo Conservative Edu Arabia Worker.
Borninhove Posted - 28/10/2007 : 10:19:27
LTNS
quote:
you can join his Hate Club with that American Lover BornInHove
Couple of points, El Tee Bag. I think hate is the wrong word to describe what I feel about George. As Anubis's post above shows, he is obviously a very personable chap and when I watched him on Big Brother I can certainly see why he has so much support. The fact that I disagree with almost every word he says on the Middle East does not necessarily mean I hate him. I might see him as a deluded egomaniac who appeals to the more tinfoilhat-wearing segment of the community, but few people take what he says that seriously and his role as buffoon-in-chief of the left seems fairly secure.

Interestingly, the very week Gorgeous George spews his nonsense on Question Time his own "Respect" party seems to be disintegrating with a huge row blowing up between George and his Muslim activist cronies and the Socialist Worker's Party stalwarts who helped kitty-boy set up the party back in 2004. Seems like the red/green alliance is not all smooth sailing.

As to my being a "American lover" - Guilty as charged. Next Jan will be my 20th anniversary since I first met Mrs. BiH and I still love her today even though she comes from EVIL Bush clan-land (although few Southern Californians would agree that that is indeed where they come from, and doubtless many red-state Texans would agree!)

Here's a picture I made a year or so ago during the "cartoons-of-doom-burn-an-embassy" saga:



Now THAT I would love to see!

Daveb Posted - 28/10/2007 : 08:18:35
http://www.georgegalloway.com/page.php?page=content/comingsoon.html

Promotes himself like a pop star.

It is simply really.
I have an opinion and I do not like what I see.

I also have no wish to go anywhere near Bethnal Green.
I worked in Penge for twelve years, that was bad enough.

Miriam Binder Posted - 27/10/2007 : 21:34:34
Theyworkforyou.com statistics on Gorgeous George( for the past year only):

Has spoken in 6 debates in the last year — well below average amongst MPs.
Has received answers to 35 written questions in the last year — average amongst MPs.
Replied within 2 or 3 weeks to a low number of messages sent via WriteToThem.com during 2006, according to constituents.
Has voted in 12% of votes in parliament — well below average amongst MPs. (From Public Whip)
People have made 20 comments on this MP's speeches — well above average amongst MPs.
This MP's speeches are understandable to an average 17–18 year old
long time no see Posted - 27/10/2007 : 20:03:58
DaveB
just does not have a Clue.

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