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| nightowl |
Posted - 27/10/2007 : 16:38:21
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7065010.stm
So is this the way to deal with the ageing population culling the weak and vulnerable, don't like this one bit, nurses should not be asked to make such decisions on life and death..... |
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| Fluffy Sheep |
Posted - 27/10/2007 : 22:27:34
We debated this one at work today. The only nurse who was all for it is a temporary colleague, NOT the most sensitive or mature person - and I say God Forbid that someone like that should ever be given a say in the matter, let alone the onus of decision!
The present situation, is that YES, nurses have more close contact with the patient than doctors, and already give some feedback and observation on the consultants` rounds. Where resuscitation would definitely not be in the patient`s interest, this should already be recognised, discussed with family and a `DNAR` (do not attempt resuscitation)orange form completed by the doctor. If there`s an orange form that hasn`t been reviewed and the patient is gradually improving, it is NOW up to the nurse to bring it to the doctor`s attention, and the `DNAR` status is either rescinded or renewed, depending on what is deemed best for the patient. I Think that`s taking the nurse`s role in this quite far enough already.
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| Miriam Binder |
Posted - 27/10/2007 : 22:08:47
There is nothing to indicate that allowing nurses to determine if and when resuscitation should be attempted would necessarily mean that fewer people would be resuscitated. Therefore this does not indicate that this is a 'cull' of patients. It is a cost cutting exercise, commensurate with the proposal to allow qualified nurses to conduct abortions for instance.
Yes, there have been some nurses that kill, just as there have been some doctors that kill. Remember Drs Harold Shipman, Michael Swango, Thomas Neill Cream and others.
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| nightowl |
Posted - 27/10/2007 : 20:39:55
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Originally posted by Miriam Binder
To call it a cull is ludicrous.
Try "eradicate" or "terminate" the end result is the same......
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/weird/nurse/12.html |
| Daveb |
Posted - 27/10/2007 : 18:15:55
Sounds ok to me. |
| Miriam Binder |
Posted - 27/10/2007 : 18:00:07
To call it a cull is ludicrous. |
| long time no see |
Posted - 27/10/2007 : 16:59:07
Some Nurses
want this.
Sign Of The Times. |
