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| Miriam Binder |
Posted - 31/03/2007 : 10:37:52
It looks as if the Brighton Eye has passed the planning application and it is anticipated that work will start on the i360 sometime in June.
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| 30 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
| Furzewick |
Posted - 18/07/2008 : 11:45:29
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Originally posted by thedelboy
Perhaps as the Brighton and Hove taxpayers will be funding it they will have 2/3 days a year free for locals after all the Pavilion is free one day a year for residents
Funded by the Council ? I thought it was King Alfred that they were subsidising ?? |
| nightowl |
Posted - 18/07/2008 : 11:18:32
With the credit squeeze I doubt any large capital building project will ever get started in Brighton for many years to come..... |
| thedelboy |
Posted - 17/07/2008 : 22:55:12
Perhaps as the Brighton and Hove taxpayers will be funding it they will have 2/3 days a year free for locals after all the Pavilion is free one day a year for residents |
| Miriam Binder |
Posted - 17/07/2008 : 22:20:15
Well, it isn't for locals really is it. More a thing for the tourist and day tripper. |
| Furzewick |
Posted - 17/07/2008 : 16:40:47
Looks like its going to cost £8 to use. How many families will be up for that. |
| Daveb |
Posted - 17/07/2008 : 12:37:27
I like a sea view Jimmy.
Whether I would go 300ft up in the air for one I am not sure.
The downs also look good.
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| fartin1976 |
Posted - 17/07/2008 : 12:18:45
quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder
The thing is ... wasn't the Brighton 'Donut-on-a-Stick' a private endeavour?
Yep. The Portsmouth Tower was funded by the taxpayer....they had a big problem with the funding what I remember. Also, the build quality is questionable as they were finding voids in the concrete. |
| Miriam Binder |
Posted - 17/07/2008 : 10:24:17
The thing is ... wasn't the Brighton 'Donut-on-a-Stick' a private endeavour?
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| fartin1976 |
Posted - 17/07/2008 : 10:13:12
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Originally posted by No Expert
http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/generalnews/2396239.Further_delays_for_the_i360/
I made a comment about this (Leonard Lemsip) on that article:
"I don't think it'll ever be built. And even if it is, it will flop. When you go up in the london eye you see all the famous london landmarks. What's there to see from the i360? Not a lot."
One of the replies: "I totally understand, there is only the iconic coastal landscape and the visual beauty of the South Downs to admire."
I didn't bother replying (on the Argus pfff, what's the point).
But are these people mad? From the eye you'll see one way: The sea. And the other way: A fairly standard town (apart from the pavillion) and some green fields in the distance.
That's it! So in my opinion, there's next to nothing to see (esp when compared to the london eye).
Am I wrong?
you could say the same about Portsmouth (AKA shithole) but there are hundreds of people queued to get up the tower there each day |
| No Expert |
Posted - 17/07/2008 : 02:25:32
http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/generalnews/2396239.Further_delays_for_the_i360/
I made a comment about this (Leonard Lemsip) on that article:
"I don't think it'll ever be built. And even if it is, it will flop. When you go up in the london eye you see all the famous london landmarks. What's there to see from the i360? Not a lot."
One of the replies: "I totally understand, there is only the iconic coastal landscape and the visual beauty of the South Downs to admire."
I didn't bother replying (on the Argus pfff, what's the point).
But are these people mad? From the eye you'll see one way: The sea. And the other way: A fairly standard town (apart from the pavillion) and some green fields in the distance.
That's it! So in my opinion, there's next to nothing to see (esp when compared to the london eye).
Am I wrong? |
| Furzewick |
Posted - 16/07/2008 : 10:29:26
quote:
Originally posted by B.O.B.
I would think that the Brighton Eye is the last thing that this town(city)needs. What is the point of it. Typical of Brighton Councillors though to choose something like that to dominate a prime spot on the seafront. Only useable if you pay for it and lasts about 8 minutes. The monorail is another non starter. Would ruin the seafront. Maybe Nick Lomax could design an eco friendly sports centre for the King Alfred Site or what about the Richard Rogers design. What about using seawater in the pools. They used to. Will the agreement with Karis become nul and void if Gehry has pulled out and this scheme doesn't get built or have Karis now got hold of the site for the remainder of the lease? What have the Councillors signed away?
Agree with much said here.
Local architects could make a big contribution to 'major projects'.
Never understood how the Brighton Eye could get as far as it did. Great idea while it stayed on the back of an envelope. |
| Miriam Binder |
Posted - 16/07/2008 : 09:05:57
It isn't just the 'Eye' B.O.B. ... it is the whole shower called planning! |
| B.O.B. |
Posted - 16/07/2008 : 08:30:52
I would think that the Brighton Eye is the last thing that this town(city)needs. What is the point of it. Typical of Brighton Councillors though to choose something like that to dominate a prime spot on the seafront. Only useable if you pay for it and lasts about 8 minutes. The monorail is another non starter. Would ruin the seafront. Maybe Nick Lomax could design an eco friendly sports centre for the King Alfred Site or what about the Richard Rogers design. What about using seawater in the pools. They used to. Will the agreement with Karis become nul and void if Gehry has pulled out and this scheme doesn't get built or have Karis now got hold of the site for the remainder of the lease? What have the Councillors signed away?
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| Miriam Binder |
Posted - 15/07/2008 : 20:35:40
It would be bloomin' hilarious if it wasn't so damned sad! |
| Daveb |
Posted - 15/07/2008 : 20:28:56
It is so sad. Another one that will never happen.
Still never mind.
Let us have a few all expenses paid meetings.
Launch an enquiry into what went wrong.
Commission a few reports from our mates, opps sorry experts.
Have a few more meetings.
Blame the previous council.
Motion passsed! |
| Martha Gunn |
Posted - 15/07/2008 : 11:48:38
Another delay announced today. Building now set to start 'in a matter of weeks'. June was touted (which itself was late) so now september is mooted...
Another one bites the dust? King Alfred, Brighton Centre, Black Rock - now the Marina is said to be running into trouble. Can our planners deliver anything?
Brighton is a place for dreamers who like to live life through rose tinted spectacles. sadly, the real world (housing market, steel prices etc) have no place for this. The Council should start to deliver, sensible, workable improvements instead of thinking that Brighton exists in a bubble of its own. It doesn't and while 'unfashionable' other towns get on with it, Brighton ends up looking stupid - talking the talk but failing miserably to walk the walk. |
| Furzewick |
Posted - 26/05/2008 : 19:04:54
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Originally posted by Daveb
On his friends driveway?
Either that or you have discovered the flaw in the letter and the fact is that it was made up by the Brighton & Hove Tourist Board!
Shome mistake shurely |
| Martha Gunn |
Posted - 26/05/2008 : 19:00:15
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Originally posted by Furzewick
Just wondering:
How did the writer of the letter find a central parking space so effortlessly ?
And he came down via Hove thanks to local knowledge. The intended route into brighton - the A23 - is now screwed. Had he been stuck in a jam from Patcham, his day out might not have been so great. |
| Martha Gunn |
Posted - 26/05/2008 : 18:58:26
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Originally posted by Furzewick
Bitter or realistic ?
What about the reaction to the letter published in the Argus about the day out in Brighton.
http://www.theargus.co.uk/display.var.2290670.0.0.php
Yes, he's had a nice day out by the sea but this isn't the everyday experience of Brighton is it? For those living & working here the reality is somewhat different and for those that move here they often enjoy a honeymoon period where the rose tinted specs make everything great.
It's that classic case of peering behind the wallpaper. The festival, beach, sunshine etc all do a great job of papering over the cracks but underneath we all know the unaddressed shortcomings that exist.
The council are too happy to accept statistics like the town being the drug-death capital of the UK as being a by-product of our 'vibrant' cafe, bar & club society.
Besides, he comes from Byfleet which is a suburb of Woking for goodness sake. Mosside would be a nice day out in comparison...
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| Daveb |
Posted - 26/05/2008 : 13:29:33
On his friends driveway?
Either that or you have discovered the flaw in the letter and the fact is that it was made up by the Brighton & Hove Tourist Board! |
| Furzewick |
Posted - 26/05/2008 : 12:35:00
Just wondering:
How did the writer of the letter find a central parking space so effortlessly ? |
| Daveb |
Posted - 26/05/2008 : 12:22:20
I guess no place is great if you live there all the time. |
| Miriam Binder |
Posted - 26/05/2008 : 12:10:41
Exactly so ... It may be a great city to wander into for a day off here or there but it is far from a great place to be when you live here all year round. |
| Daveb |
Posted - 26/05/2008 : 11:34:57
A good point of view from a tourist.
I think the point however is this...
Brighton & Hove need tourists but some money should be spent on some decent facilities that local tax payers can benefit from all year round.
Martha Gunn is more than likely correct in saying a lot of Brightonians are now living on the outskirts.
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| long time no see |
Posted - 26/05/2008 : 11:25:07
Good Point Of View
Furzewick. |
| Furzewick |
Posted - 26/05/2008 : 10:53:41
Bitter or realistic ?
What about the reaction to the letter published in the Argus about the day out in Brighton.
http://www.theargus.co.uk/display.var.2290670.0.0.php
Reaction :
Peter Topping gives his verdict on Brighton & Hove
Peter Topping? Is he a government minister? Is he the author of a new guide book or a newspaper columnist or a TV personality? He’s none of these things and actually much more important than all of them. Peter Topping is a visitor from Surrey who came to the city on Sunday and had a good time. He had such a good time he took the trouble to write to The Argus about his visit and he reminds all those who spend too much time complaining about Brighton & Hove’s perceived shortcomings what a great place this is. |
| Martha Gunn |
Posted - 25/05/2008 : 23:01:40
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Originally posted by Furzewick
If it wasn't for our seafront .....
With so many planned developments located there, isn't even this at stake.
Perhaps but while there is still some beach that meets the sea - the tourists will come, trash the town, spend money that will fill the pockets of a transient workforce and national (not local) companies and then bu@@er of again until next weekend / bank holiday.
A seafront on a sunny day can hide a multitude of sins - Brighton has always clung to this but over the last 10-15 years has seemingly fallen in love with soaking up its own self-produced hype.
Like Miriam says - all style, no substance. The substance lies in the sadly neglected suburbs. Who cares about them? They don't make a 'world class city' do they?
Cor, I'm bitter tonight aren't I! |
| Furzewick |
Posted - 25/05/2008 : 22:42:22
quote:
Originally posted by Martha Gunn
quote:
Originally posted by Daveb
Sad but true.
Brighton could be a whole lot more.
It could be if those in power and those hangers-on that sadly influence power took their collective heads out of the @rse's for a moment to see that basically, if it wasn't for our seafront (that isn't actually that great) we'd be nothing more than a Regency Croydon with poorer shopping facilities and lower wages.
This is unlikely to happen anytime soon however.
Back on topic, I'm still sceptical that this (i360) will ever be built despite news this week that building work is imminent.
If it wasn't for our seafront .....
With so many planned developments located there, isn't even this at stake. |
| Martha Gunn |
Posted - 25/05/2008 : 22:08:05
quote:
Originally posted by Daveb
You and me both.
I guess you have been a Brightionian as long or longer than I have to know.
I'm sure if they conducted a straw-poll around the 'burbs and places like Peacehaven, Shoreham etc - all full of displaced Brightonians, they'd be a resounding call for facilities like a decent swimming pool to rival that in Burgess Hill or Crawley - not 'strings-of-pearls' along the seafront. These places get pocked fun at by local authorities like Brighton & Hove but they actually just get on and quietly deliver quality amenities & services without all the bravado & bluster we get here.
A big donut offering marginally better views those than gained free on the Race Hill are probably quite far down the list of 'would-likes'.
I suppose never having bought into the whole 'place to be be' thing, my views of what Brighton & Hove should offer and the direction in which its future lies are at odds with those actually calling the shots.
At the end of the day, Brighton was a fishing village made fashionable by a King who liked to party to excess. Brighton still whores itself out to Londoners every weekend. Its morals (and appearence) will forever be skid-row-on-sea all the while our leaders are happy to chase the cheap & easy £££££ |
| Miriam Binder |
Posted - 25/05/2008 : 22:06:15
You put it best Martha when you said that Brighton is all style and no substance the way things are going. |
