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thedelboy Posted - 15/02/2008 : 10:31:22
Father Allen Sharpe founder of St Patricks trust/night shelter resigned due to accusations of inapropiate friendship allegations,I have known Father Allen for a number of years and those of you who know me will have heard me speak warmly of him and Irene parry,Between these two people they have helped me recover from a nervous breakdown and help me feel worthwhile again.Father Allen has never done anything but good for the local community and the homeless,he has helped numerous drug addicts and alchoholics in the past;Even when the council stopped the funding it was Father Allen who refused to give up he did what any good Christian would do in those circumstances he fought for good to come good.I for one would like to thank Father Allen and his son Steven(ok Steven can be a bit pompous sometimes but his heart is in the right place)for the hard work and dedication that they both have put into St Patricks
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thedelboy Posted - 22/11/2008 : 20:59:42
Father Allen is on the "Lorica" website also there is the result of the investigation which prooves Father Allen was innocent of any charges relating to him allegedly misapropiating funds, He still does plenty for the homeless but in his own right WITH HIS OWN MONEY; he did not run away to france in guilt he went to his sons house in France to recover from the scurrilous bbc claims !! I would trust Father Allen with my life
thedelboy Posted - 22/11/2008 : 20:38:33
I Believe Father Allen is at his home, the Church does know exactly where he is, and guess what the BBc have apparently admitted it was an edited report
B.O.B. Posted - 19/11/2008 : 10:22:52
You can find out some information by going to the Lorica St. Patricks website.
Edwin the Scot Posted - 17/11/2008 : 22:55:52
Do the Church authorities know the whereabouts of this man and his daughter? It has all gone very quiet.
thedelboy Posted - 08/04/2008 : 11:02:10
Obviously I am biased ,but I know Father Allen a lot better than most;FACT the congregation was very low when he took over the church-He built the congregation up (OK it seems to have dropped again but is that the vicars fault just look at ST Peters among other churches in the uk )there is NO proof whatsoever that he pocketed any donations fact.
Joe Bloggs Posted - 07/04/2008 : 23:55:32
Erm, the BBC didn't have an inapproriate relationship with someone in their care. Nor did they fail to bank payments to a charity in the charities accounts. Nor did they give cash to an addict on a daily basis. They didn't invite one of several hundred people who use the night shelter to move in with the vicar, and they didn't cause the congregation to take flight either. They didn't resign from the Charity, and then resign from the Church as well. And they certainly didn't take off to France, having paid endless family members handsome salaries with public monies intended to help the homeless.
Blame the BBC all you like I guess. But we all know where the blame lays.
Del, I know you say they helped you, but believe me for everyone they helped they didn't half do some calous damage to others. Thank your lucky stars you weren't one of them. There is a lot more behind this story going back 20 years or more than what existed in this programme alone. This programme was the tip of an iceburg and was enough to bring the whole sham for that dodgy vicar to an end. Now that's what I call public service broadcasting, believe me.
long time no see Posted - 07/04/2008 : 12:21:24
The BBC Nailed him
FACT.
thedelboy Posted - 07/04/2008 : 10:53:10
bOLLOCKS LT YOU ONLY SEE THE WORST IN PEOPLE,you want it to be true but you have obviously not looked at the programme properly,if you had you would have seen the poor editing and the obvious lie ie the lad was supposedly out of court for 20 mins he left court in broad daylight and when he was supposedly only 20 mins later outside the vicarage it was pitch black,so stop being a twat and actually watch the ruddy programme and then tell me it was not done for sensationalism
long time no see Posted - 07/04/2008 : 10:48:25
This BBC Docu
was Bang on right
in many viewers eyes.
thedelboy Posted - 07/04/2008 : 10:32:28
the documentary was supposed to have been about the need for nightshelters(at least that was the pretext)the journo who did this has a reputation for distorting the truth(please try the media complaints website for further info)I have seen the video of the programme loads of times and there is so many inconsistencies it is unbelievable ,How can a so called taxpayer funded organisation allow itself to show such a misleading article like this ;If Father Allen was her" Maj" then the establishment would have been out in force but Father Allen is just a lowly vicar(cannon)
Miriam Binder Posted - 07/04/2008 : 09:43:25
quote:
Originally posted by B.O.B.

Why was the BBC investigating Father Allen in the first place? The truth about all this will out, hopefully.

Was it Father Alan in specific the BBC was investigating or was it the night shelter business as a whole?
B.O.B. Posted - 07/04/2008 : 09:32:41
Why was the BBC investigating Father Allen in the first place? The truth about all this will out, hopefully.
long time no see Posted - 06/04/2008 : 20:25:35
quote:
Originally posted by thedelboy


anyway LT I do think you are a self rightous prick obsessed with new labour bush and anybody else who does not agree with your outlandish quirky ideas



For sure.


thedelboy Posted - 06/04/2008 : 17:58:50
as it happens I believe it is his sons in laws place,also where did you hear that he fled? cos his ghost just walked down the bloudy drive.
anyway LT I do think you are a self rightous prick obsessed with new labour bush and anybody else who does not agree with your outlandish quirky ideas
Miriam Binder Posted - 06/04/2008 : 17:28:23
quote:
Originally posted by B.O.B.

but why, if this Father Allen person did nothing wrong,did he flee to his son's home in France.If he had stayed around to explain his innocence in these matters it might not look so suspicious.

Who said he fleed? Maybe he is just trying to get away from malicious rumour mongers and libellous stories.

Maybe we should wait and see what the FACTS are instead of trying to force our own interpretation based on some half cocked preconception.
long time no see Posted - 06/04/2008 : 16:42:42
quote:
Originally posted by Tombstone Blues

quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

He has left his Job
he was Guilty and has payed the price for allowing that Horrid Junkie
a room within that Church.





I normally wouldn't wish this on anyone, LTNS, but in your case I'll make an exception. I hope that you, or someone close to you, has a serious drink or drug problem one day. Maybe then you won't be so dismissive and bigoted about it.






You are having a Laugh
it would make me even more Angry at these HORRID JUNKIES.
FACT.
long time no see Posted - 06/04/2008 : 16:40:29
quote:
Originally posted by B.O.B.

but why, if this Father Allen person did nothing wrong,did he flee to his son's home in France.If he had stayed around to explain his innocence in these matters it might not look so suspicious.




Good Point.
B.O.B. Posted - 06/04/2008 : 16:38:18
but why, if this Father Allen person did nothing wrong,did he flee to his son's home in France.If he had stayed around to explain his innocence in these matters it might not look so suspicious.
Tombstone Blues Posted - 06/04/2008 : 11:52:41
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

He has left his Job
he was Guilty and has payed the price for allowing that Horrid Junkie
a room within that Church.





I normally wouldn't wish this on anyone, LTNS, but in your case I'll make an exception. I hope that you, or someone close to you, has a serious drink or drug problem one day. Maybe then you won't be so dismissive and bigoted about it.
thedelboy Posted - 06/04/2008 : 10:07:01
got you where it hurts have I "LT"
what a "libelous" statement !! are you suggesting that I am "Corrupt"?
Now that hurts
long time no see Posted - 06/04/2008 : 10:00:41
You and Corrupt New Labour,
ideal partners.


Life In The City.
thedelboy Posted - 06/04/2008 : 09:47:41
Please remember that "no one is above scrutiny" "LT", Father Allen left for the sake of the charity not due to guilt.FACT it was only a couple of months ago you were asking me to put Ed up Fact you then started to Put him down with rather harsh words FACT now you change hot and cold at the drop of a hat or more precise at any bulshit report that takes your fancy,Due to your rather silly attitude I think I will vote Labour this time round or more to the point Mr Brown
long time no see Posted - 06/04/2008 : 09:38:13
He has left his Job
he was Guilty and has payed the price for allowing that Horrid Junkie
a room within that Church.

Nobody is Beyond Scrutiny.

thedelboy Posted - 06/04/2008 : 09:29:13
There is no proof at present the money was charity money,yes there is proof that Father Allen gave money to a known drug addict;but did Father Allen know that the money would be used to buy drugs? now that would be difficult to prove either way!! I have a friend who is alchoholic (he is trying desperately to give up)we have worked a way to help him by my looking after his money and giving him "X" amount per day;If I dont see him for two days I go and check he is ok but I do not give him two days money ,I put it in His new bank account(Ikeep the card and check book)now this chap has only been out of the Army for 18 months so he is not on benefits or anything like that he gets a "MOD" pension.Could Father Allen perhaps been doing something similar for the lad concerned?
as have Said "LT" stop judging without the facts,It is innocent until proven guilty in this country,Or do you believe otherwise?
Miriam Binder Posted - 05/04/2008 : 22:40:04
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

That is your view.

Not just mine LTNS but never mind lief ...
long time no see Posted - 05/04/2008 : 16:05:40
That is your view.
Miriam Binder Posted - 05/04/2008 : 15:37:59
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

Good we are up to date now.

Yep ... you are still malicious scandal mongering at best and libellous at worse.
long time no see Posted - 05/04/2008 : 15:19:59
quote:
Originally posted by livewire

This is getting boring. We have numerous posts by long time no see reiterating the same point.

LTNS, you have made your point regarding the cash-point, the vicar and the junkie. Any further posts on that point will be removed.

I am leaving the thread open for anyone, including long time no see, who wishes to continue to discuss the various other issues regarding this event.

livewire (Admin)






Good we are up to date now.
long time no see Posted - 05/04/2008 : 15:15:26
The BBC have months on Film.
You need to watch the whole report again.
You are in error.
Miriam Binder Posted - 05/04/2008 : 15:11:43
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

Yes the bleedin' DID
and gave all their data to the POLICE.
FACT.

Really? All I remember is him taking money from a cash point and giving it to the unfortunate drug dependent individual. I do not remember seeing which account it was taken from. Maybe you know differently, in which case you are of course perfectly welcome to prove otherwise but until you can, I suggest that claiming he gave the gent monies from the charitiy is at best malicious rumour mongering and at worse libel.

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