| T O P I C R E V I E W |
| Daveb |
Posted - 16/03/2008 : 20:33:49
Should athletes risk their health?
http://sport.guardian.co.uk/breakingnews/feedstory/0,,-7385023,00.html
Or their morals?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=513362&in_page_id=1770&ct=5
Or should it be bycotted because of human rights?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7299597.stm
http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=2285 |
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| long time no see |
Posted - 10/04/2008 : 23:13:55
The americans changed the route many times
to avoid any trouble.
Sign Of The Times. |
| Infinite Poppadum |
Posted - 08/04/2008 : 16:28:11
Well done, the Parisians. More shame on Brown. |
| long time no see |
Posted - 07/04/2008 : 23:58:55
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1312093,00.html
Before they are even there
the Golden Gate bridge
now has Free Tibet Banners.
Sign Of The Times. |
| long time no see |
Posted - 07/04/2008 : 16:46:16
The next event is California SF
who should stop it as well. |
| moon23 |
Posted - 07/04/2008 : 16:43:23
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1311970,00.html
Meanwhile in Paris
they stop the parade over security problems.
Yes the French they know how to have a good protest. This is putting a stop to China's parade, they must be livid. |
| long time no see |
Posted - 07/04/2008 : 15:31:47
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1311970,00.html
Meanwhile in Paris
they stop the parade over security problems. |
| moon23 |
Posted - 07/04/2008 : 14:22:05
quote:
Originally posted by Borninhove
But the flame must be naturally produced by the rubbing together of the thighs of virgins on Mount Olympus, or something, innit? You can't just go around blowing them out and relighting them willy-nilly - it spoils the whole tone of the seriousness of the games. I mean, when I sit down with my box of Kleenex to watch the beach volleyball, I don't want my experience ruined by a bunch of protesters causing the flame to blow out now, do I?
No the flame was burnt during the game, but the actual relay part of it was actually created by the Nazi's to celebrate the Third Reich (a knowledge of history increases one's sense of irony wonderfully).
It was meant to celebrate the theft of theft of fire from Zeus by Prometheus, but if you belive it's been kept buring all this time then sorry but it's a lie, like all that is good in this world.
Borninhove the rubbing together the thighs of young virgins creates far too moist an environment for flame, and if you are watching the flame during beach volleyball then you haven't 'got' this sport yet. |
| moon23 |
Posted - 07/04/2008 : 14:15:53
quote:
Originally posted by Borninhove
Anyone can join in.
This is bad for CO2 emissions |
| Borninhove |
Posted - 07/04/2008 : 14:14:57
But the flame must be naturally produced by the rubbing together of the thighs of virgins on Mount Olympus, or something, innit? You can't just go around blowing them out and relighting them willy-nilly - it spoils the whole tone of the seriousness of the games. I mean, when I sit down with my box of Kleenex to watch the beach volleyball, I don't want my experience ruined by a bunch of protesters causing the flame to blow out now, do I? |
| moon23 |
Posted - 07/04/2008 : 14:14:47
quote:
Originally posted by Daveb
Agreed.
That's idealism for you!
Yep, at least the protesters are honest in their political intentions. Unlike China who back up their claim it is all about sporting by editing out any videos that show otherwise.
There was an interesting articule on the beebs site about the history of the games being used as a political football. |
| Daveb |
Posted - 07/04/2008 : 14:11:12
Agreed.
That's idealism for you! |
| moon23 |
Posted - 07/04/2008 : 14:11:00
quote:
Originally posted by Borninhove
Yes, but it strikes me as cheating.
Oh, and now I've got that (nearly) 20-year-old song in my head for the rest of the day:
Begin, Reagan, Palestine, Terror on the airline
Ayatollah's in Iran, Russians in Afghanistan
No people used to say that having a propane torch was cheating, but you have to move with the times. There are actually hundreads of Olympic flames now in existance, in fact it is rumoured that shortly after 2012 the number of Olympic flames will outnumber conventional flames by a ration of 2-1 |
| Borninhove |
Posted - 07/04/2008 : 14:10:15
Anyone can join in. |
| moon23 |
Posted - 07/04/2008 : 14:02:50
quote:
Originally posted by Daveb
Not at all, that is not what it is meant to symbolise either.
The demonstrations actually helped no one.
As with any symbol it is used for political purposes, either by the capitalist who use it to sell bottles of coke or the Chinise that use it to promote an 'image of China' to the Chinese people. You have to be rather naive to think it's all just about the sporting spirit.
In 2012 it will be used to sell London and UK tourism.
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| Borninhove |
Posted - 07/04/2008 : 13:58:25
Yes, but it strikes me as cheating.
Oh, and now I've got that (nearly) 20-year-old song in my head for the rest of the day:
Begin, Reagan, Palestine, Terror on the airline
Ayatollah's in Iran, Russians in Afghanistan |
| Daveb |
Posted - 07/04/2008 : 13:54:23
Not at all, that is not what it is meant to symbolise either.
The demonstrations actually helped no one. |
| moon23 |
Posted - 07/04/2008 : 13:53:53
quote:
Originally posted by Borninhove
Torch Put Out Twice and Put On Bus for Safety in Paris
So if the flame has been put out a couple of times to protect it from the protesters, then it's not really the same flame - It is "Le Flamme Zippo", n'est pas?
Borninhove the Olympic movement didn't start the fire, it was always burning since the world's been turning.
Anyway they have back-up torches which were lit at the same time to contiune the 'flamne' |
| moon23 |
Posted - 07/04/2008 : 13:51:34
quote:
Originally posted by Daveb
These demonstrations should be peaceful.
All of this shows a total disrespect of the Olympic movement (not that it helps its self much).
There is also too much focus on Tibet when there are many other issues of human rights in China.
FREE TIBET!*
*also stop other human rights abuses
I agree DaveB, people should bow before the Olympic flame as it's past so as not to disrespect this holy symbol of merchandise and marketing. |
| Borninhove |
Posted - 07/04/2008 : 13:49:13
Torch Put Out Twice and Put On Bus for Safety in Paris
So if the flame has been put out a couple of times to protect it from the protesters, then it's not really the same flame - It is "Le Flamme Zippo", n'est pas? |
| Daveb |
Posted - 07/04/2008 : 13:42:18
These demonstrations should be peaceful.
All of this shows a total disrespect of the Olympic movement (not that it helps its self much).
There is also too much focus on Tibet when there are many other issues of human rights in China. |
| moon23 |
Posted - 07/04/2008 : 12:49:57
quote:
Originally posted by Borninhove
Ha! Excellent shoppage! But maybe could do with more LTNS & Quo?
You know he has one of those suits at home.
FACT
Yes it's a seamless cut and paste job |
| Borninhove |
Posted - 07/04/2008 : 12:38:29
Ha! Excellent shoppage! But maybe could do with more LTNS & Quo?
You know he has one of those suits at home.
FACT
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| moon23 |
Posted - 07/04/2008 : 11:00:41
Yes the wonderful symbol of fair play and internationalism is marched through major capitals by a phalanx of storm troopers.
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| long time no see |
Posted - 06/04/2008 : 22:06:17
Protesters today trying hard to put the torch out.
Police arresting another protester.
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| long time no see |
Posted - 06/04/2008 : 13:23:35
Meanwhile
Victoria Pendleton says Sex helps women more
than men in these events.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=557434&in_page_id=1770 |
| long time no see |
Posted - 06/04/2008 : 13:18:08
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1311912,00.html
Yes they Snatched her Torch for a brief moment.
China TV will do a great deal of Editing.
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| Borninhove |
Posted - 06/04/2008 : 13:07:00
So who is carrying a torch for Konnie?
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| long time no see |
Posted - 26/03/2008 : 11:02:28
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=545450&in_page_id=1770
No Change then and now
Olympics can not be stopped.
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| Daveb |
Posted - 25/03/2008 : 20:55:08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPvRsLWlDXw/ |
| Anubis |
Posted - 25/03/2008 : 14:56:20
quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder
Neither am I claiming to be an expert on Tibet. I became interested in Tibet apropo to reading up on Far Eastern Religions for a course on comparative religion that I took in my salad days; we've all had brain waves and brain storms - that was just one of mine.
Snap! Almost the same story .... between first and third degrees I inserted an MA in religious studies, focusing on 'New Testament" and Buddhism. I chose the latter because the philosophy (of Theravāda Buddhism) fitted so well with the Artificial Intelligence I'd been working with. Of course this stuff, the Pali texts, has only marginal relevance to the Tibetan variety!
But I have bugger all knowledge of the 'political' issues with China or anybody else beyond the vague comments I've made on this post! The series on Tibet on BBC4 these Thursdays is rather good, though: I've not seen them all, but the last gave plenty of shots of the roads built in recent times ...... |
