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FUBAR Posted - 15/11/2007 : 19:50:09
Driving home noticed two blue signs about bus lanes from Brighton to Newhaven. Are these proposed routes or already passed routes? How are bus lanes going to be put on a road that is mostly single lane each way? What a way to cut supposed congestion by causing more gridlock. Must be council policy to make travel as difficult as possible so they can introduce congestion charging.
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Daveb Posted - 15/08/2008 : 18:22:29
On the Argus Friday Inquisition Councillor Matthew Lock admitted the coast road layout is specifically designed to get people out of cars. This sums up BHCC attitude to rid Brighton of cars.

How much more public money is going to be spent to grt us all on a PRIVATE COMPANY'S BUS!

Smug Twat!

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/thefridayinquisition/3597661.Councillor_Matthew_Lock/
Daveb Posted - 27/07/2008 : 08:46:19
We all made soe intresting commemts here.
http://livewire.forumco.com/topic~TOPIC_ID~1167~SearchTerms~traffic,.asp


One wonders if Fartin1976 knows the people responsible for ths A259 fiasco?

What can now be done before lives are lost and it becomes a catastrophe?
Miriam Binder Posted - 26/07/2008 : 19:53:30
Won't they be a bit 'slippery'?
No Expert Posted - 26/07/2008 : 19:50:59
oood work fube.

Although all this 24/7 talk gave me an idea.

Replace our UK bus lanes with 24/7 Polish ones.


er?
Miriam Binder Posted - 26/07/2008 : 13:17:04
FUBAR Posted - 26/07/2008 : 10:09:41
Still going ahead with the rest of the bus plan according to the council in the Argus article. There is still the problem though of why we need a 24/7 bus lane system when we don't have 24/7 buses.

quote:
Driving home noticed two blue signs about bus lanes from Brighton to Newhaven. Are these proposed routes or already passed routes? How are bus lanes going to be put on a road that is mostly single lane each way? What a way to cut supposed congestion by causing more gridlock. Must be council policy to make travel as difficult as possible


From my first post, pity I can't pick Lottery numbers as well..
Infinite Poppadum Posted - 25/07/2008 : 18:46:38
Another week of that, and property prices will drop even faster in Peacehaven.
Miriam Binder Posted - 25/07/2008 : 05:38:01
Poetic Justice!
Daveb Posted - 25/07/2008 : 05:08:17
Now that IS funny.
Infinite Poppadum Posted - 25/07/2008 : 04:07:56
The Argus reports that Roger French is now complaining that the new coast road has added 45 minutes to the journey time of his buses.

Were the designers of this "system" on cocaine?
Martha Gunn Posted - 23/07/2008 : 22:17:58
quote:
[i]
If the Conservatives had sat down to devise a way of losing votes to the Greens in Rottingdean, they could not have come up with a better one.



could they not have headed this off?

They failed to halt the King Alfred, failed to stop Grand Avenue Cycle Lanes and have now failed to stop this.

There is only so much they can blame on the previous administration before they need to deliver on the promises to put an end to this sort of thing which they used as a large part of their election 'ticket'

After a year in power, they are looking as inefectual as labour although with a bit more in-fighting.

worrying.....
Miriam Binder Posted - 23/07/2008 : 20:42:32
And in the meanwhile ... I sincerely hope and pray that I am never needed down in Newhaven in an emergency because the only way to get to it now will be the long route, heading inland first!
Infinite Poppadum Posted - 23/07/2008 : 20:05:36
Yes, traffic is going left, past St Dunstan's, into Ovingdean, then right, up and left along Longhill Avenue and around into Rottingdean from the north, and then, in Rottingdean, some of it is turnng off to pick up the coast road east of the traffic lights.

If the Conservatives had sat down to devise a way of losing votes to the Greens in Rottingdean, they could not have come up with a better one.
Martha Gunn Posted - 23/07/2008 : 18:10:47
If the purpose of this scheme was to get traffic queuing back to Roedean in the evenings - well done, they've succeded

If the purpose of this scheme was to get traffic cutting through Ovingdean Village - well done, they've succeded

And as this has just made Roger 'big-pockets' French's operation much more efficient, it was with consumate timing that he raised bus fares the other day. I wonder when the next tax payer subsidy will allow him to raise his prices further.

Still - who cares? Who asked for this bus lane? If its a total disaster, will it be fixed? These schemes get thought up by face-less officers who are never in the position of having to justify their shortcomings eg the Grand Avenue Cycle 'Freeway'
caeos Posted - 23/07/2008 : 03:50:30
quote:
Originally posted by Horseman7

The 47 goes along the seafront from the Marina then up West Street to the Clock Tower, necessitating a very short walk to Churchill Square.

Happy commuting.



do you mean North Street, nothing goes up West Street unless its lost.
Daveb Posted - 19/07/2008 : 13:29:08
The road surface is worse than terrible between Saltdean and Rottingdean.
What a f£^&^*&(090 waste of money.
Horseman7 Posted - 19/07/2008 : 11:09:04
quote:
Originally posted by B.O.B.

I've always wondered why there isn't a bus from Western road direct along the seafront down to the Marina and back or is there and I don't know about it?.



The 47 goes along the seafront from the Marina then up West Street to the Clock Tower, necessitating a very short walk to Churchill Square.

Happy commuting.

FUBAR Posted - 18/07/2008 : 20:28:40
Another great day for the bus route. Traffic backed up to Roedean tonight at 5pm. Of course with the buses having to merge with us common folk at all the traffic lights they weren't moving very fast either, well done traffic planners. Wonder how long before the first bad accident seeing as there are no lane markers and I've already been passed by people who think theres a passing lane so they go in the wrong lane up or down the hill. Theres also the problem that with a large truck in the traffic lane a bus can't get past them in the bus lane because the lanes are too narrow, again good planning.
Daveb Posted - 17/07/2008 : 12:39:11
Big Lemon to the rescue?
Furzewick Posted - 17/07/2008 : 08:00:37
That might be from the time that the Tuc Tuc service operated officially as a 'bus route'. This would suggest that the basis for such a bus route exists in some official paperwork.
Daveb Posted - 17/07/2008 : 06:34:48
There may have been a tuc tuc!
B.O.B. Posted - 17/07/2008 : 06:22:50
I've always wondered why there isn't a bus from Western road direct along the seafront down to the Marina and back or is there and I don't know about it?.
Daveb Posted - 16/07/2008 : 19:47:56
Almost complete in places. Far too narrow some lanes for opposing traffic directions.

Prediction:-
More accidents.
Emergency services unable to pass blocked traffic.
Enquiry.

The really sad thing about this is that certain parts or the is in desparate need of repair. Now they will have to close parts off again to repair and remark the new lines. Give it six month and it will be more road works.

All this public money to help a private business.

Oh and caeos what about the Saltdean to King Alfred bus?
Miriam Binder Posted - 18/06/2008 : 22:06:48
I am up and down that particular stretch of road at least three four times a week lately ... My youngest and my latest grandson lie in Newhaven for now. There is a lot of work going on on some of the stretches and I think they are actually cutting some of the coastal stretches here and there ... But I agree Daveb, there are some stretches that are impossible to widen any further ... It looks as if it is going to be a stop start bus-lane ... Cannot really see any sense to the whole undertaking as the buses are going to have to rejoin the flow of traffic at given points along the route ...
caeos Posted - 18/06/2008 : 21:53:45
and using the glorious new journeyon website
Journey Summary
From: whitehawk primary school, whitehawk road, BN2 5FL » view location
To: bevendean primary school, heath hill avenue, BN2 4JP » view location

journey time 52 mins and 2 changes with 3 walks. none going the way i suggested as quicker.
caeos Posted - 18/06/2008 : 21:50:11
Agreed Miriam B - a lot of drivers wonder why routes go where they do, but its all to do with the figures and the B&H get fit campaign.

Miriam Binder Posted - 15/06/2008 : 17:36:31
The point is Caeos ... that though there are connections, they take time and require you to idle at a bus stop a number of times during your journey. It isn't that the connections aren't there ... it is the fact that the connections are necessary!
Daveb Posted - 15/06/2008 : 17:13:02
What about Saltdean to King Alfred?
caeos Posted - 15/06/2008 : 16:54:31
21 to Elm grove - then 49a simple,, avoid C Square


quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder

Oops I answered on the other thread (I'll delete it now) ... If you want to go from Whitehawk to Moulsecoomb you need two buses and at least an hour+ for a trip that would take 4 minutes in the car. The assumption of all the bus routes is that we are all heading for the centre of town!

Miriam Binder Posted - 15/06/2008 : 09:52:26
It has been discussed time and again ... the fact is that French, being in the business of making money, does very nicely thank you very much and sees no urgency to change the routes to reflect what people actually need and require. That is something our council should be addressing with him methinks ... rather then the building of bus-lanes, sticking out bus stops and finding ways of increasing his passenger list by forcing school-kids to bus across the town to school!

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