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Borninhove Posted - 21/05/2007 : 10:00:55
Ouch!

Meanwhile, beards are being shaken at the Cannes film festival at the premier of Persepolis, the animated movie based on one of my favourite books of the past few years, Marjane Satrapi's graphic novel about growing up in Iran after the Islamic revolution. This wonderful book tells Marjane's story in simple, black and white drawings and deal with the upheaval that the revolution caused in a little girl's life. A letter written to the organizers of the Cannes film festival reads:
quote:
"This year the Cannes Film Festival, in an unconventional and unsuitable act, has chosen a movie about Iran that has presented an unrealistic face of the achievements and results of the glorious Islamic Revolution in some of its parts,"
Unrealistic? This was her life. OK, it is a cartoon so that does make it 'unrealistic', but still ...

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camelot Posted - 05/12/2007 : 03:27:35
Oops, this potential war not as easy as the Iraq War runup...

"WASHINGTON — President Bush worked the phones Tuesday to salvage his hard-line policy toward Iran , lobbying foreign leaders for tougher economic sanctions despite a new U.S. intelligence report that concluded that the Islamic republic halted its secret nuclear weapons program four years ago..."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20071205/wl_mcclatchy/2774033

And of course a Second opinion...

Israeli officials reject U.S. findings on Iran

JERUSALEM — Israeli officials, who've been warning that Iran would soon pose a nuclear threat to the world, reacted angrily Tuesday to a new U.S. intelligence finding that Iran stopped its nuclear weapons development program in 2003 and to date hasn't resumed trying to produce nuclear weapons...


http://tinyurl.com/2zl7lg

Yahoo link shortened to fit here
camelot Posted - 28/11/2007 : 08:18:59
Yes but the Opus Dei--- Iran connection may cause some to blow a fuse if not breakfast.:)
long time no see Posted - 28/11/2007 : 07:42:03


It changes nothing
There Is NO GOD.


Bush has his False God
that tells him to Murder Innocents,
that is why America has No Righ telling Iran
what to do.

camelot Posted - 28/11/2007 : 07:37:03
Oh Oh , someones breakfast will be ruined by this...

The diplomatic chess game around Iran's nuclear program includes an unlikely bishop. According to several well-placed Rome sources, Iranian officials are quietly laying the groundwork necessary to turn to Pope Benedict XVI and top Vatican diplomats for mediation if the showdown with the United States should escalate toward a military intervention. The 80-year-old Pope has thus far steered clear of any strong public comments about either Iran's failure to fully comply with U.N. nuclear weapons inspectors or the drumbeat of war coming from some corners in Washington. But Iran, which has had diplomatic relations with the Holy See for 53 years, may be trying to line up Benedict as an ace in the hole for staving off a potential attack in the coming months. "The Vatican seems to be part of their strategy," a senior Western diplomat in Rome said of the Iranian leadership. "They'll have an idea of when the 11th hour is coming. And they know an intervention of the Vatican is the most open and amenable route to Western public opinion. It could buy them time."


http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1687445,00.html
Borninhove Posted - 22/11/2007 : 05:38:28
Well, it looks like we could be seeing the back of the loony soon

Conservative Teheran Newspaper Attacks Ahmadinejad
quote:
The Islamic Republic daily, close to Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Khamenei, has said Mr Ahmadinejad's behaviour is dangerous for Iran. The publication is seen as a newspaper with impeccable Islamic credentials. The attack would be difficult to imagine without at least tacit support from Ayatollah Khamenei. In a hard-hitting editorial on Wednesday, the Tehran paper said the president's treatment of his critics was immoral, illogical and illegal.
Well, the sooner he is out, the better, and this certainly seems like an important first step. Hopefully, whoever replaces him will be a little less barking, although I bet Hugo Chavez will be upset to see him go.
Borninhove Posted - 14/11/2007 : 10:54:24
The Iranian Dance Competition had not started well



Borninhove Posted - 14/11/2007 : 09:24:11
Yet another 'vice' crackdown.

Let's see - Something like 70% of the country is under-15 and the stuffy old squares in the robes and the beards are telling the people not to do the following:
  • Wearing short trousers revealing the leg, hats instead of scarves, small and skinny scarves that do not cover up the head, and make-up that is unconventional and violates public morality
  • Wearing decadent Western clothes and displaying signs and insignia of deviant groups (I wonder how they determine this? Metallica or Abba - both deviant?
  • Procuring decadent films - (Would this include Babe or Charlotte's Web?)
  • Procuring drugs and alcohol - (This from a country that was producing wine and beer 7,500 years ago - FACT
Those of you who have ever tried to tell a teenager what to do can guess how seriously this latest "anti-vice" campaign by the mullahs will be taken by Iran's youth.
long time no see Posted - 14/11/2007 : 05:44:33
It is a Nation going back in time,
also the More The Americans and the UK
do sanctions
the more they trade with Russia and China.
Borninhove Posted - 14/11/2007 : 04:12:47
What would you expect a member of Ahmadinejad's ruling thugocracy to say at a Peace Conference?

Oh!
Miriam Binder Posted - 02/10/2007 : 23:43:44
Nah ... we should never have 'rescued' the Iraqi and I have grave reservation on our attempt to 'rescue' the Afghans - though I'll grant you they had reasonable reasons at the time for the latter ... I just never really saw them as reasonable enough.

People on glass houses and all that jumps to mind really.
Norbert Posted - 02/10/2007 : 23:25:45
quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder

Ahmadinejad is far from universally beloved by his own people. But he is shrewd with an innate sense of self preservation and the capacity of all charismatic despots the world over of knowing just how far he can push.


Perhaps we should rescue the Iranians from the dastardly charismatic despot, The Iraqis can vouchsafe our benevolent intentions.
Let us hope that no one attempts to rescue us from what they undoubtedly perceive to be our dastardly charismatic bogeymen.
camelot Posted - 28/09/2007 : 01:03:33
The problem is there HAS been misquotes in the past...as well as a deliberate and frightening push by the neo-cons to act before Bush is out of office....fortunately there are not many neo-cons left in command. But they are still pushing buttons from the “think tanks” they have been forced back into. Cheney is the number one survivor. I fear him and his cronies far more than the front man for Supreme Leader Ali Hoseini-Khamenei.

This whole axis of evil argument is stupid, like the domino effect used as justification for the Vietnam War. The Jomhuri-ye Eslami-ye Iran would be vaporized before the Israelis got their feet wet if indeed they were "pushed into the sea" . Iran would be destroyed either with conventional weapons or nukes, with the blessings of the whole of the US population, including yours truly.
Miriam Binder Posted - 27/09/2007 : 11:02:46
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

Sure.
But to Attack Iran would start a bigger War.

Did anyone on this thread suggest attacking Iran? We are discussing Iran, or would be if it wasn't for your nonsensical single minded megalomania, which is a long shot from calling for a full out invasion you daft aporth.
long time no see Posted - 27/09/2007 : 10:47:38
Sure.
But to Attack Iran would start a bigger War.
Miriam Binder Posted - 27/09/2007 : 10:45:59
This is about far more then whether or not Iran has the LTNS given right to develop a nuclear bomb or not.
long time no see Posted - 27/09/2007 : 10:39:33
India had Nukes
against the deal - when they started.

Iran has every right to build a Furure Power plant.
He has said on the Ch4 Live Interview
he has no bomb.


America Has No right to stop Iran.
Miriam Binder Posted - 27/09/2007 : 10:26:51
Ahmadinejad is far from universally beloved by his own people. But he is shrewd with an innate sense of self preservation and the capacity of all charismatic despots the world over of knowing just how far he can push.
Borninhove Posted - 27/09/2007 : 10:20:35


I think we should have more Ahmadinejad. Much more, in some cases, eh LT?

Winks repulsively
long time no see Posted - 27/09/2007 : 10:07:07
Trust CNN
of course you can.

Fox can not be trusted.
Borninhove Posted - 27/09/2007 : 09:53:28
Hambag
quote:
Juan Cole, a University of Michigan Professor of Modern Middle East and South Asian History, translates the Persian phrase as:

The Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem (een rezhim-e eshghalgar-e qods) must [vanish from] the page of time (bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad).

According to Cole, "Ahmadinejad did not say he was going to 'wipe Israel off the map' because no such idiom exists in Persian" and "He did say he hoped its regime, i.e., a Jewish-Zionist state occupying Jerusalem, would collapse."

Yes, it was obviously a plot by those Zionist-controlled media types, like Al Jazeera, to misquote Mr. Ahmadinejad. According to my source, (the admittedly not always accurate Wikipedia) Cole translates Ahmadinejad's line as: " "the occupation regime over Jerusalem should vanish from the page of time", which, like your quote, is a lot less threatening than the "wiped off the map" line. And this is where Ahmadinejad made his speech:



Now, we can continue to split hairs about what exactly he said, but you have to admit, Hambag, that Ahmadinejad is not likely to recognize the state of Israel any time soon, nor stop his funding and training of Hezbollah.

I was disappointed last night when Ahmadinejad's promised 15-minute interview with Christine Amanapour on CNN was cut to just 2 short questions. I would like to have heard him speak more - provided I could trust CNN's translation - maybe they should call in Juan Cole.
long time no see Posted - 26/09/2007 : 16:45:42
quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder

quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

It is decided by all the Posters on here
and with Biased threads from BornInHove
very few post on this thread.

Rot! everytime someone start a thread you hop on it like on a bitch in heat with your FACT and Life in the City.

The trouble is thatyou haven't the imagination of a flea!





A Flea,
how nice for you to think in that gutter way.
Miriam Binder Posted - 26/09/2007 : 16:29:23
sing a song of sixpence and the towers of Babylon will come tumbling down!
Hambag Posted - 26/09/2007 : 16:24:36
Any poster who refers to me as a member of Steps will be considered a persona non grata.
Miriam Binder Posted - 26/09/2007 : 16:22:29
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

It is decided by all the Posters on here
and with Biased threads from BornInHove
very few post on this thread.

Rot! everytime someone start a thread you hop on it like on a bitch in heat with your FACT and Life in the City.

The trouble is thatyou haven't the imagination of a flea!
long time no see Posted - 26/09/2007 : 16:19:08
quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder

quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

The In Depth Talking you want
is not needed on this Local Forum.

Who decides that?




It is decided by all the Posters on here
and with Biased threads from BornInHove
very few post on this thread.


But I do not get stuck in BornInHove's Mud.
Or the same old boring crap from Miriam.


Sign Of The Times.
Miriam Binder Posted - 26/09/2007 : 16:14:23
quote:
Originally posted by Hambag

The irony is that his evil Bush doesn't like talking or reading in depth either. In many ways LTNS is very similar to Bush. They both have an equal command of reality.

I think you have hit the nail on the head there Hambag ... Like Shrubby, LTNS dreads having to actually think for himself. He much prefers the trite banalities of preconceived ideas as expressed by his stock phrases.

Maybe that is why LTNS hates Shrubby so much. Shrubby is renown world wide and all LTNS can claim is to be the arbitrary ruler of a small forum.
Hambag Posted - 26/09/2007 : 16:08:32
quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder

quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

The In Depth Talking you want
is not needed on this Local Forum.

Who decides that? You? Or do you just go around making sure that it doesn't happen?



The irony is that his evil Bush doesn't like talking or reading in depth either. In many ways LTNS is very similar to Bush. They both have an equal command of reality.
long time no see Posted - 26/09/2007 : 15:57:23
For Sure.
Hambag Posted - 26/09/2007 : 15:55:14
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

quote:
Originally posted by Hambag

Do you ever follow any logic or consistency? Explain, how is your reply related to the quote?




The In Depth Talking you want
is not needed on this Local Forum.
Look at the amount of Threads Miriam Binder does
that never get a Reply.
Typical Example : http://livewire.forumco.com/topic~TOPIC_ID~661.asp
If you go In Depth too much
folks move on.

Talking Direct about a Single Subject
is something you H.
need to return to.


Life In The City.



A cheesemaker is a person who makes cheese. The cheesemaking process is very old and dates back some 5,500 years. Archaeological evidence exists of cheesemaking being carried out within the societies of the ancient Egyptian civilizations.
Miriam Binder Posted - 26/09/2007 : 15:43:40
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

The In Depth Talking you want
is not needed on this Local Forum.

Who decides that? You? Or do you just go around making sure that it doesn't happen?

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