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Control Panel Posted - 24/05/2007 : 09:18:27
Forget the Dump! It now looks as if Brighton could have a nuclear-power station. Not in the Argus, but here it is.

http://environment.guardian.co.uk/energy/story/0,,2086815,00.html
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Infinite Poppadum Posted - 03/08/2007 : 16:08:58
Here is a useful map to check out these proposals.

http://www.planningdisaster.co.uk/
Daveb Posted - 17/06/2007 : 09:52:48
Alas we are Doomed!
Build the nuclear power stations, sea defences and plan to become self sufficient.
Then let the tea making begin.
Infinite Poppadum Posted - 16/06/2007 : 10:09:58
Perhaps the LibDems will increase their chances by promising to deploy "smart bombs" to rid the country of the branches of Greggs and leave everything else standing.
Miriam Binder Posted - 16/06/2007 : 10:04:00
quote:
Originally posted by Infinite Poppadum

Is that Miriam's vision of the end of the World, not a branch of Greggs in sight?

Much preferable don't you think ... spinning towards the end with the mellow tones of Long John Baldry rather then to the clink of plastic spoons in polystyrene mugs .... even if it is with 'real milk'
Infinite Poppadum Posted - 16/06/2007 : 09:52:46
Is that Miriam's vision of the end of the World, not a branch of Greggs in sight?
Miriam Binder Posted - 16/06/2007 : 08:21:40
Daveb Posted - 16/06/2007 : 08:14:50
There is always a nice cup of tea!

Greggs has a fine establishment at Worlds End.
There is also Taj, The Famine Cafe and The Pestilence Tea Emporium.

The four Tea Shops of the Apocalypse
Miriam Binder Posted - 16/06/2007 : 08:08:12
It seems that the way to marry Daveb's pragmatism with some hope is the engage in a form of apocalyptic thinking
Daveb Posted - 16/06/2007 : 06:53:01
Most of the population will have been drowned in great storms and floods caused by global warming.
Those that survived the wave of suicide bombers of the world religious war that is.
Some will have fallen foul of the bird flu and MRSA plague.

Nature will find a way.
Control Panel Posted - 15/06/2007 : 22:45:09
Indeed, but how does one marry that pragmatism with some hope?
Daveb Posted - 15/06/2007 : 22:28:45
Human nature being in general rather primitive.
The intelligent will die out and the thick mob will rule.
Unless the intelligent can harness the mob to do its bidding.

This is how religions gained power.
This is how all great empires were built.

You will never convince all that being green, peaceful and humane is the way forward.
There will always be someone who takes advantage of the good will.

If this country is to survive we will need nuclear power stations and large armed forces to protect our shores.
The oil will run out and chaos will ensue.
Prepare now.
Miriam Binder Posted - 13/06/2007 : 14:25:58
moon23 Posted - 13/06/2007 : 14:21:27
Nuclear power??? waaayyyyy of topic :)
Miriam Binder Posted - 13/06/2007 : 12:52:22
Costa Rica? The pattern for future development? http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/2019.htm
moon23 Posted - 13/06/2007 : 12:43:15
quote:
Originally posted by Martha Gunn

quote:
Originally posted by moon23


Fightin in Iraq isn't like defending freedom against Nazi's becuase it's an illegal agressive war.



Not all EDO's products will exclusively be used in Iraq. The UK could be invaded by a hostile enemy in which case we'd need to defend ourselves. Lets face it, when push comes to shove, flower guns just aren't going to cut the mustard are they?

I'd prefer EDO protesters to vent their spleens at those whose policies have led to EDO's products being used in dubious conflicts rather than harrassing employees of a company whose products may one day save our lives, freedom blah blah blah.....



No, not all their products are involved in Iraq but they are still willing selling their products with the knowledge that they will be used there.

People have a right to protest and should be able to do so without the risk of arrest or accusations of harassment. There are some protesters who in my opinion don't use the best methods to state their case but to say that they are all 'harassing' employees is unfair. There is a difference between a legal protest against a company and harassing individual workers. I find the later unacceptable.

Although you can argue that we need arms to safeguard our so called 'freedom' it is also very easy to show how the international arms trade helps contribute to conflicts by sparking arms races etc.

Costa Rica does very nicely without any military and since abolishing it's military has been void of the civil wars that has afflicted it's neighboring countries. This is how societies will cope once man has developed sufficient intelligence to forego the folly of war.


Miriam Binder Posted - 13/06/2007 : 10:25:53
Ah but Martha ... you are missing the point. Those valiants protesters are merely emulating the methods they are protesting against by going to the soft defenceless underbelly (which is powerless to effect any change anyway).

After all, you must admit it is far easier to throw a doll spattered with red paint in the path of some poor woman trying to get home after work then it is to actually try and argue the case in board rooms. Aside from the fact that it gets them in the newspapers which, under the ruling that no publicity is bad publicity - or any publicity is better then no publicity even.
Martha Gunn Posted - 13/06/2007 : 10:15:09
quote:
Originally posted by moon23


Fightin in Iraq isn't like defending freedom against Nazi's becuase it's an illegal agressive war.



Not all EDO's products will exclusively be used in Iraq. The UK could be invaded by a hostile enemy in which case we'd need to defend ourselves. Lets face it, when push comes to shove, flower guns just aren't going to cut the mustard are they?

I'd prefer EDO protesters to vent their spleens at those whose policies have led to EDO's products being used in dubious conflicts rather than harrassing employees of a company whose products may one day save our lives, freedom blah blah blah.....
moon23 Posted - 13/06/2007 : 09:54:11
quote:
Originally posted by Daveb

So all those that died defending against Nazi Germany wasted their lives so you are able to protest against war?



No they didn't. It would however be nice if people could come togther and motivate themselves to create a better world without the threat of a Nazi invasion.

Fightin in Iraq isn't like defending freedom against Nazi's becuase it's an illegal agressive war.
Daveb Posted - 12/06/2007 : 21:05:25
So all those that died defending against Nazi Germany wasted their lives so you are able to protest against war?
moon23 Posted - 12/06/2007 : 17:15:42
quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder

A slightly more accurate way of putting it would be if we were better at pursuing peace, the world would be a better place. Trouble is it is in man's nature to be galvanised by the spirit of competition and that shows no where better then in the pursuit of war.



It is better to pursue peace and lesuire rather than work and war. There will always be some good things that come from the bad. Like metal dectors to find treasure but I still reackon we would be better off without the wars and the technology.
Miriam Binder Posted - 12/06/2007 : 17:04:09
A slightly more accurate way of putting it would be if we were better at pursuing peace, the world would be a better place. Trouble is it is in man's nature to be galvanised by the spirit of competition and that shows no where better then in the pursuit of war.
moon23 Posted - 12/06/2007 : 17:02:45
quote:
Originally posted by Borninhove



True love always finds a way.

I must be in a romantic mood today.



It brings it all back in a flood of memories, thanks Bornihove
moon23 Posted - 12/06/2007 : 16:58:18
quote:
Originally posted by Martha Gunn

quote:
Originally posted by moon23

quote:
Originally posted by Martha Gunn

quote:
Originally posted by quest


Have your ever thing that EDO could be expand?, are you so sure that BHCC won't dare ...



And why is that such a bad thing? EDO are a cutting-edge manufacturer of products that happen to include components for missle release systems.

The fact that you are able to post freely from your computer in Hollingdean in 2007 is a direct result of the uk being one of the leading world powers in terms of military technology. So, its not all bad is it?




What so the only reason we are able to post on this forum is becuase EDO supply weapons technology that kills people in argubly illegal wars.



Come on moon, you're clever enough to know what I'm getting at rather than the silly comment you've made above. We all live in the UK, a democratic country where we all take freedom of speech for granted. We are partly by-products of hundreds of years of war, most of them won by Britain in its various guises. Even if, like you, you are anti war, you've got to admit life would be quite different if we didn't happen to be so good at it.

Technology played a great part in winning WWII. Those genius's that designed Spitfires, Bouncing bombs etc are equally the type of genius's that work for firms like EDO.



Yes the world would be a lot better if we were all worse at war.

If only we could focus our creative energies on more worthy and productive things.
moon23 Posted - 12/06/2007 : 16:55:13
quote:
Originally posted by No Expert

What's his name moon?



It's a she not a he so sorry there is no point in emailling me anymore to try and get a date no expert.
Martha Gunn Posted - 12/06/2007 : 13:25:34
quote:
Originally posted by moon23

quote:
Originally posted by Martha Gunn

quote:
Originally posted by quest


Have your ever thing that EDO could be expand?, are you so sure that BHCC won't dare ...



And why is that such a bad thing? EDO are a cutting-edge manufacturer of products that happen to include components for missle release systems.

The fact that you are able to post freely from your computer in Hollingdean in 2007 is a direct result of the uk being one of the leading world powers in terms of military technology. So, its not all bad is it?




What so the only reason we are able to post on this forum is becuase EDO supply weapons technology that kills people in argubly illegal wars.



Come on moon, you're clever enough to know what I'm getting at rather than the silly comment you've made above. We all live in the UK, a democratic country where we all take freedom of speech for granted. We are partly by-products of hundreds of years of war, most of them won by Britain in its various guises. Even if, like you, you are anti war, you've got to admit life would be quite different if we didn't happen to be so good at it.

Technology played a great part in winning WWII. Those genius's that designed Spitfires, Bouncing bombs etc are equally the type of genius's that work for firms like EDO.
Borninhove Posted - 12/06/2007 : 12:52:31


True love always finds a way.

I must be in a romantic mood today.
No Expert Posted - 12/06/2007 : 12:29:03
What's his name moon?
Borninhove Posted - 12/06/2007 : 12:26:13
quote:
I met my partner at an anti-war protest


... it was the riot gear that first attracted me. That and the strangely arousing smell of tear gas.
moon23 Posted - 12/06/2007 : 12:11:23
quote:
Originally posted by Control Panel

The internet being a product of cold-war necessities is but one of life's paradoxes, such as non-stick frying pans deriving from the Sixties race to the Moon. I have never understood that. Is there any film of astronauts having a quick fry-up? The eggs would surely hit the ceiling of the spacecraft and make a horrible mess.

Meanwhile, back on Earth, good cooks do not need such pans.



I think i'd rather not have the cold-war and hope that Geeky types would have come accross the idea of the internet at some later date!

I met my partner at an anti-war protest, but I wouldn't use that as a justification for war
Control Panel Posted - 12/06/2007 : 11:20:14
The internet being a product of cold-war necessities is but one of life's paradoxes, such as non-stick frying pans deriving from the Sixties race to the Moon. I have never understood that. Is there any film of astronauts having a quick fry-up? The eggs would surely hit the ceiling of the spacecraft and make a horrible mess.

Meanwhile, back on Earth, good cooks do not need such pans.

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