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Posted - 05/06/2007 : 16:51:40
Part of the article from Hollingdean News June 2007, sign by Jeane Lepper, local Councillor:
HOLLINGDEAN PHONE MAST PLANNING DECISION IMMINENT
Although Hutchinson Mobile 3G received no support from Hollingdean residents over their proposal to erect a 'phone mast on the small piece of land at the junction of The Crestway and Mountfields, they have decided to go ahead with a planning application. Letters of objection are needed if we are going to get this application turned down.
Letters should stress the adverse appearance of this mast and the unsuitability of the site for such a large structure.
Letters will be accepted by the committee up to the day of the meeting which will probably be at the beginning of June so please act fast. They should be addressed to Steve Lewis, Development Control, Hove Town Hall, Norton Road, Hove BN3 3BQ, quoting planning application number BH2007/01347 ... proposed installation of a radio base station comprising of a 12.5 metres high replica telegraph pole mast containing three 3G antennas, associated equipment cabinets and ancillery development.
Jeane is happy to provide residents with a copy of her letter of objection - we can phone her on 291169 or email Jeane.Lepper@brighton-hove.gov.uk
HN continues to receive deeply worrying information about the health effects of mobile phone masts, and WiFi networks, on a regular basis. If you are in any doubt about whether you have time to object to this proposal please visit www.matsanity.org |
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| Cunningham |
Posted - 11/07/2007 : 15:21:40
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I'll bet that 100% of the non-objectors will oppose it, if located near their children schools or their homes. Especially now that there are enough evidences of health damage.
I would be interested to read this evidence of damage to health.Could you provide a link?
Oh,and hello. |
| Miriam Binder |
Posted - 03/07/2007 : 17:49:38
There is that too of course ... |
| fartin1976 |
Posted - 03/07/2007 : 17:34:12
I was thinking not in terms of practicality but in terms of radiation dosage to the population in that area. My gut feeling is that lots of lower powered transmitters would subject a lower dose of radiation to the population than one powerful transmitter in the centre. It would be like standing next to one large speaker at a concert than having lots of smaller speakers spread out in the crowd – you’d get less people with hearing damage. |
| Miriam Binder |
Posted - 03/07/2007 : 17:17:41
Even a high powered one would eventually have to be supplemented by additional masts as our usage is increasing. |
| The Duke of Uranus |
Posted - 03/07/2007 : 17:06:48
quote:
Originally posted by fartin1976
Is it better to have lots of low power transmitters covering an area or one really high powered one at the centre?
1 high powered one. Lots of small transmitters would just end up with every building having a transmitter so you might just as well have pocket sized phones that plug into a wall socket. |
| n/a |
Posted - 03/07/2007 : 16:59:03
And a louder one to comunicate that. |
| fartin1976 |
Posted - 03/07/2007 : 16:54:54
Is it better to have lots of low power transmitters covering an area or one really high powered one at the centre? |
| Miriam Binder |
Posted - 03/07/2007 : 16:48:08
quote:
Originally posted by quest
Look at yourself first Miriam, my name is quest and stop adding extras.
I have dear ... and believe me I've looked at your posts as well. |
| n/a |
Posted - 03/07/2007 : 16:43:17
Look at yourself first Miriam, my name is quest and stop adding extras. |
| Miriam Binder |
Posted - 03/07/2007 : 16:30:26
The trouble with you quest is that you tend to view every post that does not agree with you as a personal attack. Getover it already sweetness ... people have different view points. |
| Miriam Binder |
Posted - 03/07/2007 : 16:17:34
quote:
Originally posted by quest
Miriam, I remind you that my name is quest.
LET'S AGREE THAT WE DISAGREE, I don't need to explain myself any further, if you want to know my opinions read my posts.
And stop to attacking people,... shoot the message and not the messanger ...
And I will remind you that not objecting to something is not nimbyism nor is being a pragmatic realist ... My view was and remains that with all these constant objections we are likely to end up with having decision rammed down our throats. We should be a lot more judicious about when and about what we object.
It was your failure to comprehend what nimbyism actually means quest and not my failure to agree to disagree sweetness. |
| long time no see |
Posted - 03/07/2007 : 16:06:46
quote:
Originally posted by quest
Miriam, I remind you that my name is quest.
LET'S AGREE THAT WE DISAGREE, I don't need to explain myself any further, if you want to know my opinions read my posts.
And stop to attacking people,... shoot the message and not the messanger ...
Well said Quest.
This is a Good forum not
the Gutter argus one. |
| n/a |
Posted - 03/07/2007 : 15:42:25
Miriam, I remind you that my name is quest.
LET'S AGREE THAT WE DISAGREE, I don't need to explain myself any further, if you want to know my opinions read my posts.
And stop to attacking people,... shoot the message and not the messanger ...
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| Miriam Binder |
Posted - 03/07/2007 : 14:51:32
quote:
Originally posted by quest
I'm sorry Miriam if you can not see beyong your own nose, and I have said before nimbyism doesn't exit in my dictionary, I see it does in yours. Lets just agree that we disagree.
Look sweetness, that you may have a problem with the English language is really not an issue. What is an issue is twisting what is being said. I, until my daughter got me one for my birthday a couple of weeks ago did not have a mobile phone. I didn't really want one. However I have been seeing a rise in the use of mobile phones as has just about anyone else who has cared to walk around with their eyes open and looking around them ... instead of just firmly fixed to the end of their facial protuberance.
Mobile phones, and sundry electronic paraphernalia that modern man seems to think essential to the running of his/her daily life are on the increase. They require the construction of mobile phone masts and other radio-wave producing constructions. These constructions will have to go somewhere as will things like sewage treatment plants, waste depots and all kinds of unpleasant things. That my dear is a fact of life as we know it.
Now it is all very well objecting to all these things and you are more then welcome to object to them to your little heart's content. But all that these constant crusades of objections will ultimately bring about it is that all these people that are currently relying on their mobile phones and suddenly find they cannot get a signal. They are trying to get rid of their sewage and find there is no where for it to go. They want to get rid of their refuse and other unwanted bits and pieces and there is no where to dispose of them.
We are going to lose our right to object and these things are going to be constructed willee nillee - which is something I certainly would not want to see. That my dearling, isn't nimbyism, or nasal gazing, that is pragmatic realism.
What we need to develop is a yimbism ... yes okay we need 'x' 'y' or 'z' ... now we know that there maybe a downside to having 'x' 'y' or 'z' in our vicinity, so ... what are you going to give us in return for agreeing to having 'x' 'y' or 'z' in our vicinity. |
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Posted - 03/07/2007 : 14:27:41
I'm sorry Miriam if you can not see beyong your own nose, and I have said before nimbyism doesn't exit in my dictionary, I see it does in yours. Lets just agree that we disagree. |
| Miriam Binder |
Posted - 03/07/2007 : 14:04:06
And another victim to nimbyism and the inability to look beyond your own nose. |
| n/a |
Posted - 03/07/2007 : 13:14:40
A small victory for some Hollingdean residents, for the moment.
As publish in Hollingdean News July 2007:
GOOD NEWS! PHONE MAST UPDATE
The planning application for the phone mast at the corner of The Crestway and Mountfields has been turned down. It did not even go the the planning commitee as officers had the power to refuse it outright. Officers acknowledged the amount of local opposition was important in making their decision. The company may appeal against this decision. A big thank you to all the people who wrote in objecting to it.
by Jeane Lepper
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| Daveb |
Posted - 07/06/2007 : 21:36:26
Mobile phones save lives.
We need more masts in remote areas.
How many of the kids have a mobile stuck to their ear for most of the day anyway? |
| n/a |
Posted - 07/06/2007 : 15:49:23
Petition to sign on http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/PhoneMasts/ |
| sully |
Posted - 07/06/2007 : 14:48:24
quote:
Originally posted by quest
It would be interesting to know what rest of the 80+ members have to say about it, since you represent only a minority. Not that I was going to change my mind in that matter though.
As you're interested, I think your protest is a total waste of time.
Threads such as this have been on here before and I have made my thoughts known then. I felt it unnecessary to comment this time until you provoked me!
Business and most individuals rely on mobile phones nowadays. It is ridiculous to object to the masts being located where they are needed. |
| Martha Gunn |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 22:50:59
quote:
Originally posted by fartin1976
Oh well at least we'd be able to get a good singal on Orange from now on! :-)
A good Orange signal? Don't be silly! |
| The Duke of Uranus |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 16:50:24
quote:
It would be interesting to know what rest of the 80+ members have to say about it
It looks like they feel strongly enough about it to not bother posting on this thread. Colour them couldn't give a **** perhaps?
*sit's back and awaits hundreds of new logins to appear and register their disgust* |
| Horseman7 |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 16:31:52
quote:
Originally posted by quest
And you mine, the point re re: all tecnology should be throughly texted before going into market, especially when a risk of health.
Very appropriate that it should be texted.
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| Miriam Binder |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 15:42:16
quote:
Originally posted by quest
It would be interesting to know what rest of the 80+ members have to say about it, since you represent only a minority. Not that I was going to change my mind in that matter though.
I do believe the reference was made with regards to the ones that have posted on the topic quest. |
| n/a |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 15:35:53
It would be interesting to know what rest of the 80+ members have to say about it, since you represent only a minority. Not that I was going to change my mind in that matter though. |
| nightbird |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 12:46:07
If you think phone masts are a risk then you had better have a look in your kitchen..
http://www.health-science.com/microwave_hazards.html |
| fartin1976 |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 12:44:43
quote:
Originally posted by No Expert
So we're al agreed then, this campaign is a pile of bollocks!
Ya.
I hope the council have a text vote. |
| Miriam Binder |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 12:38:23
I think most of us think it so. Not all of us but most of us. |
| No Expert |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 12:13:16
So we're al agreed then, this campaign is a pile of bollocks! |
| fartin1976 |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 10:02:40
I agree TDOU, even the link between high voltage power lines and leukaemia is a bit dubious and to think people have been living near power lines for at least 80 years now.
Oh well at least we'd be able to get a good singal on Orange from now on! :-) |
