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Ian Posted - 22/05/2007 : 08:34:48
From time to time I've been a bit suspicious of supermarket food and whether they store things properly. I have noticed that I've never had adverse reactions after eating M&S or Waitrose food, whereas I have had adverse reactions from food from some other supermarkets. There's a programme on tonight which sounds like it might have the answer:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6676345.stm
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Anubis Posted - 27/05/2007 : 22:22:02
quote:
Originally posted by nightbird

Diabetes shortens ones life or quality of life no matter how you look at it, even some of the controls have there dangers, better to avoid getting diabetes Type 2 by exercise and a sensible diet.
More and more children contracting Type 2 diabetes through life style now was never heard of before, you inherit Type 1 through genes not much can be done there at the moment.....

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2007-05-21-diabetes-drug-risks_N.htm



No Nightbird: contrary to what "common sense" would expect, the genetic link is MUCH MUCH stronger in what is currently labelled "type 2" diabetes! (Of course, I should modify that statement to say the "likelihood of contracting" -- but it's still the opposite of what "common sense" would expect!)
Fluffy Sheep Posted - 27/05/2007 : 20:16:04
Certainly the chances of suffering strokes /heart attacks are much greater in diabetics. But look at this another way... many folks diagnosed with Type 2 are given `an offer they can`t refuse`, to completely change the way they eat, and those who do this successfully may well be lengthening their lives. Yes it does limit the individuals` choices, but eating loads of salty, sugary, fatty or stodgy food isn`t particularly enhancing quality of life, is it?
nightbird Posted - 27/05/2007 : 19:16:00
Diabetes shortens ones life or quality of life no matter how you look at it, even some of the controls have there dangers, better to avoid getting diabetes Type 2 by exercise and a sensible diet.
More and more children contracting Type 2 diabetes through life style now was never heard of before, you inherit Type 1 through genes not much can be done there at the moment.....

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2007-05-21-diabetes-drug-risks_N.htm
Anubis Posted - 27/05/2007 : 18:57:03
quote:
Originally posted by nightbird

http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/2003/09/30/food_microbes020930.html

Dangerous business being alive and having to eat, if you survive food poisoning you'll most likely be over weight and die anyway from a heart attack or diabetes....



Not meaning to "start up something" by a too literal reading of your sensible comment, Nightbird .... but people don't "die of diabetes" although the consequences of the condition and/or the medication/treatment used CAN facilitate a fatality. Two-thirds of diabetics currently 'snuff it' from heart attack/stroke.
Miriam Binder Posted - 27/05/2007 : 10:21:33
And there was me thinking it was a chocolate in each hand. Just goes to show how wrong you can be
Daveb Posted - 27/05/2007 : 10:14:38
A balanced diet is a burger in each hand.
Also if something is green it has generally gone off!
nightbird Posted - 26/05/2007 : 23:27:54
long time no see Posted - 26/05/2007 : 19:20:14
Yes I have seen that site.
It will not stop them on the High Streets.
nightbird Posted - 26/05/2007 : 19:08:41
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

quote:
Originally posted by quest

There are a fish industry to mantain.
Once I was poison with Kentacky fried chicken, I can't even describe the awful effects. After this and having spent sometime in the east it wasn't difficult become vegetarians. Since them we make lifetime commitment to stay vegetarians, and we've never been food poison again. My children are vegetarian as well and when grown can't make their own decisions.


http://www.kentuckyfriedcruelty.com/u-georges.asp


Very Fair.

Bad that the KFC got you.
They get busy, rush a load - not cooking it proper.

Sign Of The Times.

long time no see Posted - 26/05/2007 : 14:19:47
quote:
Originally posted by quest

There are a fish industry to mantain.
Once I was poison with Kentacky fried chicken, I can't even describe the awful effects. After this and having spent sometime in the east it wasn't difficult become vegetarians. Since them we make lifetime commitment to stay vegetarians, and we've never been food poison again. My children are vegetarian as well and when grown can't make their own decisions.




Very Fair.

Bad that the KFC got you.
They get busy, rush a load - not cooking it proper.

Sign Of The Times.
Miriam Binder Posted - 26/05/2007 : 14:04:05
Good for you.
n/a Posted - 26/05/2007 : 14:02:58
There are a fish industry to mantain.
Once I was poison with Kentacky fried chicken, I can't even describe the awful effects. After this and having spent sometime in the east it wasn't difficult become vegetarians. Since them we make lifetime commitment to stay vegetarians, and we've never been food poison again. My children are vegetarian as well and when grown can't make their own decisions.
long time no see Posted - 26/05/2007 : 12:11:55
quote:
Originally posted by quest

LT, there are enough information that a vegetarian is healthy and balance diet.

Sometimes to change habits you have to change traditions, everybody knows how turkeys are so bad treated in intense farming, and knowing that in christmas time millions of the same turkeys are consume, people don't seem to be connecting one to the other.

This an animal loving country.




Sure
so long as you have Fish as well.
nightbird Posted - 26/05/2007 : 11:43:02
http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/2003/09/30/food_microbes020930.html

Dangerous business being alive and having to eat, if you survive food poisoning you'll most likely be over weight and die anyway from a heart attack or diabetes....
n/a Posted - 26/05/2007 : 11:43:00
LT, there are enough information that a vegetarian is healthy and balance diet.

Sometimes to change habits you have to change traditions, everybody knows how turkeys are so bad treated in intense farming, and knowing that in christmas time millions of the same turkeys are consume, people don't seem to be connecting one to the other.

This an animal loving country.
long time no see Posted - 26/05/2007 : 11:16:17
quote:
Originally posted by quest

Reducing the consumption of meat/fish or becaming a vegetarian could be the answer, as time is confirming a decision that I've never regret, at least you reduce the chance of poisoning.




You have got to have Meat and Fish
as part of a Balanced Food.

But watch out for Evil Tesco.
n/a Posted - 26/05/2007 : 11:10:31
Reducing the consumption of meat/fish or becaming a vegetarian could be the answer, as time is confirming a decision that I've never regret, at least you reduce the chance of poisoning.
Borninhove Posted - 26/05/2007 : 05:37:49


More evil than you can imagine.
long time no see Posted - 26/05/2007 : 04:30:58


http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/consumer_goods/article1843264.ece


More Food Corruption from Evil Tesco.
long time no see Posted - 24/05/2007 : 14:00:26
Yes
but a Big Store has Worldwide Choice.

Life In The City.


n/a Posted - 24/05/2007 : 13:47:10
LTNS, having fully matured before any thing was "organic"
I still find that my own sense of sight smell and taste are very reliable
when choosing food.
Meat in the supermarket is normally wrapped and coloured by lights robbing me of all
of the above senses.
long time no see Posted - 24/05/2007 : 13:40:50
quote:
Originally posted by nightbird

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/02_february/11/supermarket.shtml

This should please LT,it seems they are all guilty at some time




Yes WalmartUK admit their Guilt.
n/a Posted - 24/05/2007 : 13:33:42
Its a bit more expensive but I am buying meat from the local butcher
who swears that all his meat is local.
Also vegetables at the local greengrocer, again more expensive, but local.
Better to eat less of what is good than more of who knows what or where it came from.
I am also suspicious of the marketing of so called organic foods.
nightbird Posted - 24/05/2007 : 11:42:33
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/02_february/11/supermarket.shtml

This should please LTN,it seems they are all guilty at some time
Joe Bloggs Posted - 22/05/2007 : 23:09:21
Ian, Waitrose were convicted of reselling out of date food in East Sussex in recent years. Western Road branch also had a very cavalier attitude to disability access at the front of the shop until recent years stating wheelchair bound people should enter the shop at the back instead. I've not shopped there since. And I wont be using those deli counters either in Tesco and Sainsbury's.
Anubis Posted - 22/05/2007 : 22:28:28
Tonight's TV programme was one of the 'really' best. Hope it gets replayed on other chanels. As a regular Tesco shopper, and, I kid myself, I thought aware of the world out there, I was horrified by what I saw ... and yet, much of it confirmed what I'd often noticed , but not !00% registered 'consciously' ....
Miriam Binder Posted - 22/05/2007 : 22:13:30
Cheap commodities always come at a price. We would do well to remember that as consumers.
nightbird Posted - 22/05/2007 : 21:57:23
After watching tonights programme we can see how Tesco and Sainsbury's made bumper profits.
Isn't there anybody out there protecting the comsumer I wonder ?
The Duke of Uranus Posted - 22/05/2007 : 09:44:49
quote:
Originally posted by nightbird

The BBC would have done better to look closely at the suppliers of super markets and their subcontractors, thats where most poisoning originates from.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/humber/3708820.stm



Not according to your link it doesn't...

quote:
He is writing to the Food Standards Agency (FSA) to advise them to issue national guidance on the storage and handling of lettuce, particularly in fast food outlets, where the North East Lincolnshire cases all started.

"We would not want people to stop eating lettuce at home," he said.

"The problem seems to occur in certain fast food outlets where lettuce is left lying around on display in high temperatures.

"We now believe there may be some multiplication of the bacteria in that environment."
long time no see Posted - 22/05/2007 : 09:05:37
This is Whistleblower Docu is at 9PM BBC1 UK
The BBC say following Tip-offs
they sent Covert Reporters with cameras
to grass up on Tesco and Sainsburys.

The Whole point of the Deli is it looks good
so they are taking of any mould all the time.

Sign Of The Times.

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