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Control Panel
Discworld
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 Posted - 10/06/2007 : 19:23:19
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"Of all the towns in England, Brighton is the one where I can honestly congratulate the Mayor, Corporation and officials for what they do to keep the character of the town and make it cheerful and welcoming." This is what John Betjeman wrote in the Spectator in 1956, and he said that the great Victorian churches of St Bartholomew's, St Martin's, St Michael's and St Mary's rose "like huge red battleships over the chimney pots and Georgian crescents".
What would he make of the Council in the quarter-century since his death, and in particular what would he have to say about the behaviour of Councillor Watkins who shirked the opportunity to cancel the grotesque King Alfred application?
The Election which soon followed this led to a substantial drop in the LibDem vote, especially that for Councillor Watkins, and the Greens - without any particular effort - were in hailing distance of ousting him.
As the next Election now begins as soon as the previous one has finished, it will be interesting to see what moves all the parties make in this key ward. Will the LibDems be so rash as to put Councillor Watkins up again?
As things stand, the Greens are set to take one if not two seats there especially as they have councillors upon all the Committees while the LibDems no longer merit a place on such crucial Committees as Planning.
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
1762 Posts |
Posted - 10/06/2007 : 22:05:05
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The Argus has said that the LibDems are "almost an irrelevance" now. That is true.
I should think that people, in many wards, who voted for them this time will vote Green next time.
This coming Election will also be interesting as there is less likely to be independent candidates and so those votes will go elsewhere, and might make a bit of a difference.
Add the independent vote to the Green vote in Brunswick and Councillor Watkins would almost have been out.
He did a very bad thing over the King Alfred. It did not help Sue John in Portslade. |
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Captain Hawkeye
Barsoom
United Kingdom
391 Posts |
Posted - 11/06/2007 : 13:45:43
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Maybe not paying attention. Is Brunswick the new Portslade ?
Meanwhile back in the trenches .....
Monday, June 11, 2007
Lansdowne Place parking
Residents have stopped me in the street this weekend pleased with the temporary herringbone parking layout in Lansdowne Place south. They much prefer the street one way and see the parking as helping to reclaim the street from fast and heavy traffic. I've asked officers to look at the possibility of retaining the layout after the roadworks have finished, but of course this would need full consultation. Meanwhile, you can let me know your views on the poll to the right of the Blog.
Posted by The Brunswick Blog at 11:03 AM
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Control Panel
Discworld
1537 Posts |
Posted - 11/06/2007 : 19:26:24
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| Perhaps at the Election the Conservatives will give the Greens a clear run in Brunswick and the Greens step back to let the Conservatives get a third seat in Goldsmid? |
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Captain Hawkeye
Barsoom
United Kingdom
391 Posts |
 Posted - 12/06/2007 : 09:03:23
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Originally posted by Control Panel
Perhaps at the Election the Conservatives will give the Greens a clear run in Brunswick and the Greens step back to let the Conservatives get a third seat in Goldsmid?
This kind of arrangement, usually behind closed doors is one of the things that gives local democracy a very bad name.
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Control Panel
Discworld
1537 Posts |
Posted - 12/06/2007 : 10:08:22
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| Yes, it is the way that the Brighton and Hove LibDems have themselves always operated, and it has led to their disappearance. |
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Captain Hawkeye
Barsoom
United Kingdom
391 Posts |
Posted - 12/06/2007 : 10:15:39
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Here I am wondering if Mr C. Panel thinks of Brighton & Hove Lib Dems like this :
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6640 Posts |
Posted - 12/06/2007 : 10:21:52
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| Aha ... the lovable, friendly and definitely extinct Dodo ... BHCC Lib Dem's new logo by any chance? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Lansdowne
Alagaësía
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Posted - 12/06/2007 : 21:51:23
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Originally posted by Control Panel
Yes, it is the way that the Brighton and Hove LibDems have themselves always operated, and it has led to their disappearance.
er, Panel,
The highest number of councillors the Brighton and Hove Lib Dems ever had was three. They now have two. Mathematically it's difficult to categorise that as disappearance. |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1537 Posts |
Posted - 12/06/2007 : 21:55:13
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| Didn't the LibDems in fact rise to the giddy heights of five councillors, and then fall increasingly earthwards? |
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Martha Gunn
Barsoom
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Posted - 13/06/2007 : 00:06:37
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Originally posted by Captain Hawkeye
Here I am wondering if Mr C. Panel thinks of Brighton & Hove Lib Dems like this :
You can see why they became extinct. I bet they were great to eat. |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1537 Posts |
Posted - 13/06/2007 : 09:16:31
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| I do think that it is the same reason for the coming extinction of the LibDems, except, metaphorically speaking, they are being gobbled up by the Greens. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6640 Posts |
Posted - 13/06/2007 : 09:36:51
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They are so ruddy naive and think themselves so ruddy clever ... they deserve to be gobbled up by them
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"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
1762 Posts |
Posted - 13/06/2007 : 11:12:02
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It seems that the LibDems are worried by the influx of younger voters to Brunswick and consequent gain in votes by the Greens.
The LibDems thought that weekend raves in Palmeira Square might make them look a bit more trendy buit this has backfired as the old-timers have kicked up more of a fuss than expected. |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1537 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2007 : 13:42:28
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A vote by members of the ward party will decide who are the LibDems' candidates at the Election.
There is great disgruntlement among LibDem members that all their efforts in the election yielded so litle.
How they can surmount this is extremely difficult, and some are considering that they should put their energies to other use. |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
1762 Posts |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
7339 Posts |
Posted - 20/06/2007 : 09:55:25
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Originally posted by Captain Hawkeye
quote:
Originally posted by Control Panel
Perhaps at the Election the Conservatives will give the Greens a clear run in Brunswick and the Greens step back to let the Conservatives get a third seat in Goldsmid?
This kind of arrangement, usually behind closed doors is one of the things that gives local democracy a very bad name.
Not Democratic
so they get what they deserve. |
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Captain Hawkeye
Barsoom
United Kingdom
391 Posts |
Posted - 20/06/2007 : 10:04:38
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Originally posted by long time no see
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Originally posted by Captain Hawkeye
quote:
Originally posted by Control Panel
Perhaps at the Election the Conservatives will give the Greens a clear run in Brunswick and the Greens step back to let the Conservatives get a third seat in Goldsmid?
This kind of arrangement, usually behind closed doors is one of the things that gives local democracy a very bad name.
Yes and this is illustrated by the photo above.
Not Democratic
so they get what they deserve.
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Control Panel
Discworld
1537 Posts |
Posted - 21/06/2007 : 09:02:05
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The continuing LibDem/Labour news - offer to Ashdown etc - must increase the Greens' position in Brunswick, and all this suggests that Gordon Brown expects a hung Parliament.
It will be interesting to see who the LibDems put up at the General Election and what sort of effort they make. That will set the marker for the local Elections. |
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Captain Hawkeye
Barsoom
United Kingdom
391 Posts |
 Posted - 21/06/2007 : 11:21:56
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What is going on in Brunswick Square today ? Digging a grave for the Lib Dems ?
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Control Panel
Discworld
1537 Posts |
Posted - 21/06/2007 : 14:00:20
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Perhaps the LibDems are trying to steal the Greens' thunder by turning it into an allotment? That is certainly sustainable but do we really need to have a vista of delapidated sheds there?
And people coming out of the Gap club might - if they have not pulled - console themselves by going round to pull up Councillor Watkins's sprouts. |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
1762 Posts |
Posted - 21/06/2007 : 19:08:31
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| Brunswick Square is being redesigned with more flowerbeds, and the first of these was dug up by the Mayor. They have got a grant of £10,000 for this. What a racket! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
7339 Posts |
Posted - 21/06/2007 : 19:20:53
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Originally posted by Infinite Poppadum
Brunswick Square is being redesigned with more flowerbeds, and the first of these was dug up by the Mayor. They have got a grant of £10,000 for this. What a racket!
Be better spent on Fences
that what many now want. |
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nightbird
Calaspia
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Posted - 21/06/2007 : 19:25:45
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Originally posted by long time no see
quote:
Originally posted by Infinite Poppadum
Brunswick Square is being redesigned with more flowerbeds, and the first of these was dug up by the Mayor. They have got a grant of £10,000 for this. What a racket!
Be better spent on Fences
that what many now want.
Electric..... |
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nightbird
Calaspia
603 Posts |
Posted - 21/06/2007 : 19:27:35
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Originally posted by Infinite Poppadum
Brunswick Square is being redesigned with more flowerbeds, and the first of these was dug up by the Mayor. They have got a grant of £10,000 for this. What a racket!
They should prosecute him for vandalism..... |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1537 Posts |
Posted - 21/06/2007 : 19:59:26
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| Yes, it is one calamity after another over there, what with the Western Road / Palmeira Square muddle. The Council might just as well stage a "community event", set up chairs by a drain and invite people to watch them pushing money into it. |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
1762 Posts |
Posted - 21/06/2007 : 20:09:01
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Apparently it has been fenced off. Are the Councillors planning a
Solstice event? Of course, anything goes in Brunswick! |
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Captain Hawkeye
Barsoom
United Kingdom
391 Posts |
Posted - 21/06/2007 : 20:49:56
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Originally posted by Infinite Poppadum
Apparently it has been fenced off. Are the Councillors planning a
Solstice event? Of course, anything goes in Brunswick!
A person said to have a druid type appearance was spotted in the area but it was the hat that did not quite fit the part. Might make a better effort next year.
After the people came from the Level on that Bike ride the other day, what can we expect from the anything goes Brunswick crowd ?
Will it involve tea ? |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
1762 Posts |
Posted - 22/06/2007 : 09:48:12
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Neither Labour nor the LibDems come out well from this business of Brown trying to buy them off with a Cabinet seat.
It is the Brighton situation writ large. |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1537 Posts |
Posted - 22/06/2007 : 10:14:49
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| Yes, it looks as if the stage is set for a clumsy Prime Minister |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
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The Battle for Brunswick