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long time no see
Earthsea
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
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 Posted - 02/10/2009 : 17:27:44
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| So where will people be able to get the Standard free in Brighton, Hove and Portslade? Newsagents are not going to stock a free paper, are they? Though some have Friday Ad outside. But it could clobber the Argus. That could become a free weekly. |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/10/2009 : 18:35:08
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They will be Printing even more papers (Twice as many, infact)
and we still do not know about who in our Zone
will have it.
We find out next week.
There will be a Big Rush to get the Free Paper in our Zone
I will get it Early to avoid the Rush.
Yes it will effect the bad value Argus
they will have to pull there socks up, again. |
Edited by - long time no see on 02/10/2009 18:38:51 |
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Dingo
Barsoom
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/10/2009 : 19:58:55
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| It is one of my favourite evening papers. As stated above it will be interesting to see if the business model works especially in a recession. |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
7268 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2009 : 18:21:30
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1st Day Free
Twice as many Printed
Did well in London. |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
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Posted - 12/10/2009 : 18:38:10
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Originally posted by long time no see
1st Day Free
Twice as many Printed
Did well in London.
Mrs Poppadum couldn't find it in Hove. No sign of it in Portslade. |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
7268 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2009 : 19:47:19
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Yes I think you need to find who is stocking them
like the Stations.
And what time they get them in as in London
they ran out ,
so with the amount we get in the South East
he could be a fight for the last Free Copy.
Life In The City. |
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Furzewick
Barsoom
United Kingdom
151 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2009 : 21:38:20
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| Try Brighton Station - WH Smith |
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No Expert
Calaspia
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Posted - 13/10/2009 : 08:48:14
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Speaking of papers, what is the Argus playing at? In all the nationals today is the story of Paul Hardcastle's (N,n,n,n nineteen) daughter being beaten up in the toilet of Oceana by a playboy model. Not a mention of it in the Argus.
http://tinyurl.com/ykou5yn
http://tinyurl.com/yheyp86
Warning: These pics may make you so hot you'll have to take off your cardigan!
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/10/2009 : 12:10:20
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Yes Quality must be paid for.
This Russian Owner of the Standard
had no choice, it is printed more and stocks run out fast.
I get the feeling not many can now stock it in this Brighton Area
due to No Distribution deal , as yet. |
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Control Panel
Discworld
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Posted - 16/10/2009 : 13:36:59
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Originally posted by long time no see
Yes Quality must be paid for.
This Russian Owner of the Standard
had no choice, it is printed more and stocks run out fast.
I get the feeling not many can now stock it in this Brighton Area
due to No Distribution deal , as yet.
Yes, it is vital to pay more for better pasties.
I can't find the Standard. You shouldn't have to go searching for a newspaper. |
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Dingo
Barsoom
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24/10/2009 : 17:44:46
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| Not having any access to the free paper can anyone give an update? LTNS? |
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Anubis
Calaspia
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Posted - 24/10/2009 : 18:56:13
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Originally posted by Dingo
Not having any access to the free paper can anyone give an update? LTNS?
In London the Standard is mass produced and distributed throughout the city centre. The racks inside the rail and tube stations which are filled with Metros for the morning rush hour are equally filled with the Evening Standard from mid-afternoon onwards. There are at least two editions every day -- although essentially only the front page is altered. The paper retains it's same size and shape.
Clearly, it'll be into Brighton pretty soon. It'll be a miracle if the Argus survives its arrival! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24/10/2009 : 19:57:29
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Originally posted by Dingo
Not having any access to the free paper can anyone give an update? LTNS?
Yes at this time they are giving
it out only in Central London
but they say it will be Expanding soon. |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
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Posted - 24/10/2009 : 21:23:36
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Originally posted by Anubis
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Originally posted by Dingo
Not having any access to the free paper can anyone give an update? LTNS?
In London the Standard is mass produced and distributed throughout the city centre. The racks inside the rail and tube stations which are filled with Metros for the morning rush hour are equally filled with the Evening Standard from mid-afternoon onwards. There are at least two editions every day -- although essentially only the front page is altered. The paper retains it's same size and shape.
Clearly, it'll be into Brighton pretty soon. It'll be a miracle if the Argus survives its arrival!
But how many outlets will there be to stock the Standard in Brighton and Hove and Portslade?
This has made me reckon that printed newspapers will soon be gone.
True, the Argus has got to think closely about its purpose. With so much to build on, it could do a whole bunch better. |
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Control Panel
Discworld
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Posted - 27/10/2009 : 13:04:28
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| Now that it's impossible to find the Standard I find that in fact I do not much miss it. |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
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Anubis
Calaspia
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Posted - 08/11/2009 : 10:24:32
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Originally posted by Infinite Poppadum
A piece here about the fate of the Standard's vendors, and therefore of the paper itself. People who want a copy can't get it.
Looks as if the free idea could be a mistake indeed.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/press/dying-call-of-an-endangered-species-ndash-the-standard-vendor-1816797.html
A mistake? No newspaper has ever stayed 'in business' as a result of making profits from selling their product -- not even the Daily Mirror when it topped the polls for circulation, several decades ago. Profits came from selling space for the adverts -- and hence editorial policies needed reflect the outlook of an appropriate section of those controlling the state apparatus.
The advent of the 'free newspaper' was logically inevitable. Following the local 'free papers' publicizing urban industry, METRO demonstrated how a really mass circulation would attract the business interests, prepared to spend even more to get their products implanted into the mass mind ... Evening Standard is the logical next step.
The real tragedy of present day society is encapsulated in the final sentence of the Independent article for IP has posted the link. I remember my amazement in the days when I first worked in an office, back in the 1950s, when staff members would return from holidays, genuinely expressing pleasure at being 'back at work -- just a week was fine for a holiday break; more than that and the vacation became a little boring'. How, quite literally, as with "Phil", work can 'dehumanize' so many ...: Those affected in this way, invariably being individuals performing routine tasks that could be be better performed by a computer ....
"Some older workers feel it is a change too far, and will give up in the new year. But for the few, like Phil, for whom selling the Standard has been their lives, there is no option but to go on. "I'd go mad if I lost this. I wouldn't know what to do." |
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Control Panel
Discworld
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Posted - 08/11/2009 : 11:48:39
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But are the casual, two-minute readers the people that advertisers will want? And, as we know here, the Standard is now not reaching quite a lot of really interested readers.
Too soon to be sure but it looks as if the paper may have rushed the decision. |
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Control Panel
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Posted - 16/11/2009 : 09:58:54
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| The latest Private Eye says that the Standard will continue to make a loss, perhaps a bigger one - for one thing, it has to pay people to give it out instead of newsagents doing so from the cover price and advertisers will not want to pay more only for the quick-skim and leave it on the seat brigade. |
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Daveb
Earthsea
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Posted - 16/11/2009 : 21:33:27
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We do not need the printed newspaper anymore, free or otherwise.
Sad but true. |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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Daveb
Earthsea
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Posted - 16/11/2009 : 21:34:34
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We do not need the printed newspaper anymore, free or otherwise.
Sad but true. |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
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Posted - 16/11/2009 : 22:31:09
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| Yes, newspapers have for so long thought themselves so important - gee! lunch with a (soon forgotten) politician! - that they assumed they could ride out changes in technology, but it looks as if the world has overtaken them. What amazes me is that they gave it all away free on the internet and then wondered why they lost printed sales and the ads that go with those. It is extraordinary. I don't see the Standard surviving, and its decision will probably take down more newspapers with it as the distribution infrastructure crumbles and newsagents give up. Magazines have a better chance, probably by subscription. |
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The Evening Standard to be Free Oct 12th