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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 05/11/2007 : 16:07:27
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Originally posted by long time no see
The Crazy American
Rice said he must have Elections now.
She is mad,
that is how the Terror Gangs will take over.
Bleedin' Americans Democracy
is Stupid in Asia.
FACT.
UK Miliband New Labour Nutter
shares Crazy American Rice's view.
He is going on about Democracy!
try sorting out the UK first Stinking New Labour. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/11/2007 : 17:01:45
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
UK Miliband New Labour Nutter
shares Crazy American Rice's view.
Which crazy view is that then LTNS? That Pakistan should return to being governed under its constitution and that elections should be held under the constitution? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2007 : 17:30:14
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Elections are going to go ahead.
The Crazy American view
is American Democracy.
He is saving his own position, of course.
But the point is the Americans
do not control the world.
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2007 : 17:33:45
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As for the UK,
today MI5 is giving info on thousands of young British Muslims
who are being trained up
to bomb the UK.
So New Labour need to sort out the UK
before they join up with the Corrupt Bush Clan. |
Edited by - long time no see on 05/11/2007 17:34:37 |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/11/2007 : 17:40:25
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
Elections are going to go ahead.
They are? Really? Yet earlier ... yesterday in fact ... you said they could be as long as a year away.
Still it is good they have elections isn't it ... even if they happen when opposition leaders are under house arrest and a state of emergency has suspended the constitution. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2007 : 17:43:34
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'they could be'
That was yesterday,
you are talking about a future War Zone.
And as for His set up for Elections
it ain't our problem.
The UK has thousands of Young "British Born" Muslims
who want to bomb the UK.
So Stinking Corrupt New Labour
need to deal with the UK first. |
Edited by - long time no see on 05/11/2007 17:44:28 |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6047 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2007 : 17:45:36
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| The return and expulsion of opposition leader Nawaz Sharif is part of a larger political power-play in which Washington is deeply involved, says Irfan Husain in an article here |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2007 : 17:47:45
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Sure,
of course the current leader has told America to stay out of this. |
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Daveb
Earthsea
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Posted - 05/11/2007 : 19:09:19
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America should stay out.
It will not make things any better.
It must be remembered that Pakistan has nuclear weapons and that is a big problem for the West, not to mention India. |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/11/2007 : 19:18:03
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Bang On Right DaveB
but those Dumb Americans
want to take over any nation that is
not under their Corrupt Code of Conduct.
The World would be better off without GW Bush
FACT.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6047 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2007 : 19:23:48
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America has an Aid package amounting to a total of several billion dollars and includes sweeping debt rescheduling, grants stretching over many years and trade benefits as a reward for its support against terrorism. This is likely to be ongoing despite the current events there.
Not likely that America is going to stay out of it all is it. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2007 : 19:26:05
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Yes and so does the UK.
They can stop all that money right now.
Pakistan can then do deals with Russia.
CASE CLOSED. |
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Daveb
Earthsea
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Posted - 05/11/2007 : 19:45:42
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I meant they should stay out in a military sense.
The money will still pour in.
The West need a strong anti-terrorist ally in Pakistan.
That means tough choices.
The money could stop then we can watch another state descend into civil war.
UK will not be far behind after that due to too many UK-Pakistan family links.
Terror will rule. |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2007 : 19:53:52
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The Problem with The Corrupt Americans
is all of it is a Single Deal.
Terror Rules under American Rule Of Iraq.
FACT. |
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Borninhove
Discworld
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Posted - 06/11/2007 : 07:49:05
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Anyone else see the parade of lawyers being beaten up and hauled away in busses this morning? Gave me mixed feelings. On the one hand it is a despicable display of a dictatorship trampling all over the rule of law ...
... on the other hand, it is still lawyers getting beaten up.
This whole Pakistan mess is, of course, all our fault. If we had handled partition a bit better ... and then, as LTNS so eloquently puts it, the stinking corrupt AmericanBushClan is completely to blame as well. It's all their fault. And the Pope. And the ICCB. And Jonathan Ross ... he's got a hand in this mess, too, I'd warrant.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/11/2007 : 09:14:56
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| Interesting. UK rather then USA. |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Borninhove
Discworld
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Posted - 07/11/2007 : 11:32:01
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Hey, guys! I've got his wallet!
I need a lawyer! Oh, wait a minute ...
OK, I've got his watch, too.
Yoohoo! What? The Pride Parade is two streets down? Sorry.
This is no laughing matter.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/11/2007 : 06:48:39
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And so it goes: quote:
Dozens of Pakistani security forces policing a former tourist haven surrendered to militants yesterday, raising the stakes in the country’s political crisis. The police officers and troops, outnumbered and demoralised, laid down their arms before hundreds of pro-Taleban extremists who are imposing Islamic law in an area beloved of Western hikers.
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So so far we have this suspension of the constitution supposedly to enable the fight against extremism lead to the suspension and detention of judges, lawyers as well as opposition leaders - not to mention human rights activists and the surrender to pro-Taliban extremists. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2007 : 07:11:25
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Fight against the Terror gangs (or as you call them extremists)!
If that is true
the Corrupt Americans
with be pleased. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/11/2007 : 07:14:53
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
Fight against the Terror gangs (or as you call them extremists)!
If that is true
the Corrupt Americans
with be pleased.
Have you read the link LTNS? The article claims that Musharraf's forces have surrendered to the pro-Taliban forces. |
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Borninhove
Discworld
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Posted - 08/11/2007 : 07:41:17
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From Mariam's link:quote:
Television and music have been banned, barbers ordered not to shave beards and the militants have urged schoolgirls to wear all-covering burkas. They have warned women that their marriages would be annulled if they did not force their husbands to grow beards. Several development organisations have been forced to close their offices, accused of spreading immorality because they employed women staff.
No wonder so many trendy lefties today, forged in the protests of the sixties, are so keen to excuse these Neaderthals - they both have an obsession with sex and hair.quote:
She asks me why
I'm just a hairy guy
I'm hairy noon and night
Hair that's a fright
I'm hairy high and low
Groovy! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/11/2007 : 07:47:16
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Yes Miriam I read the Link.
Time will tell what has gone down. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6047 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2007 : 14:47:07
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US lawyers and members of the judicary are prepared to march in support of their Pakistani colleagues. I wonder if our illustrious members of the British law societies and chambers are prepared to do as much?
U.S. Legal Groups Express Support for Lawyers in Pakistan |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2007 : 16:56:32
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Meanwhile Bhutto
has said she is pleased he has set the Election dates.
Live SkyNews. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6047 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2007 : 17:05:07
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| So he has set the election dates ... but without lifting the military rule and the current state of emergency, one can but wonder how free those elections are going to be. |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2007 : 17:08:18
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Of course
time will tell. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6047 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2007 : 17:16:32
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
Of course
time will tell.
Well, let's put it this way, if opposition leaders are prevented from speaking publicly ...
Then again ... one cannot but help wondering how conducive this is: quote:
PAKISTAN'S military ruler has amended a law to give army courts sweeping powers to try civilians on charges from treason to inciting public unrest.
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"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
Edited by - Miriam Binder on 11/11/2007 20:14:41 |
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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld
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Posted - 11/11/2007 : 23:34:26
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| Beards should be optional. One instinctively distrusts any regime that tries to say otherwise.I once worked in a nursing home where the rather odd Matron had fallen out with the Handyman..as he had a beard, she tried to BAN beards. One of the male care staff promptly started growing a beard, and stood his ground to make an issue of it - but then the owner, unaware of all this, turned up one day with a beard. The daft Matron dropped her campaign like a hot brick. |
Row faster, slaves! Caesar wants to waterski! |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6047 Posts |
Posted - 12/11/2007 : 01:13:48
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The poll results should be fascinating quote:
parliament would be dissolved on Thursday and elections held by January 9, but emergency rule would stay in place until the polls were held.
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Musharraf claims that the state of emergency is necessary in order to fight extremism. His actual words quoted are "The emergency contributes toward better law and order and a better fight against terrorism ..." Maybe he is right ... it all depends on what you view as terrorism I suppose.
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Pro-Taliban fighters have advanced in recent days and government officials say they now control as much as 70 per cent of the valley, just a few hours' drive from Islamabad.
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Edited by - Miriam Binder on 12/11/2007 01:28:51 |
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Pakistan Benazir Bhutto Killed
