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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
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Posted - 29/11/2007 :  18:52:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cbecks

Was until you removed it.

Oh here we go again ... Typical whining ... Livewire has stated that it will not allow Blithering Neolithic Partisan website links.

You want to discuss the speech ... go ahead, give us your impression. You just want to drop the turds ... you are in the wrong place.

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Posted - 29/11/2007 :  18:52:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cbecks

Nick Griffin's speech:

( I will not allow a direct link to any BNP site on these forums. Anyone who really wants to access it has sufficient information there to chase it up.
I shall not amend this posting again. Next time, the post will be deleted.

livewire (admin)




I've change it to another site which is not a BNP one.

(Do not play your silly games with me. I will not be manipulated by you or any other poster. You have been trying to get that speech linked to these forums a number of times. I have made it abundantly clear that the link reference left in your original post are sufficent for those desperately eager to chase it down.

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Posted - 29/11/2007 :  18:55:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder

quote:
Originally posted by cbecks

Was until you removed it.

Oh here we go again ... Typical whining ... Livewire has stated that it will not allow Blithering Neolithic Partisan website links.

You want to discuss the speech ... go ahead, give us your impression. You just want to drop the turds ... you are in the wrong place.



You're the one who wanted to hear them speak, the minute they do you start name calling.
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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld



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Posted - 29/11/2007 :  18:58:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And how long do you think that`ll stay there?

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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5815 Posts

Posted - 29/11/2007 :  19:15:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cbecks

You're the one who wanted to hear them speak, the minute they do you start name calling.

Sheesh, talk about having a short term memory problem. I stated that they should be free to speak, I did not at any time state that I wanted to hear them. Having said that, I have no problem with hearing the debate and had I been in the area I probably would have gone to the debate.

Anyway, what them? All you keep trying to shove down people's throats is that failed pigfarmer's speech.

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Posted - 29/11/2007 :  19:21:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder

quote:
Originally posted by cbecks

You're the one who wanted to hear them speak, the minute they do you start name calling.

Sheesh, talk about having a short term memory problem. I stated that they should be free to speak, I did not at any time state that I wanted to hear them. Having said that, I have no problem with hearing the debate and had I been in the area I probably would have gone to the debate.

Anyway, what them? All you keep trying to shove down people's throats is that failed pigfarmer's speech.



You wouldn't have got in.


I'm not trying to anything down anyones throat and do please stop the name calling, it makes you look stupid.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5815 Posts

Posted - 29/11/2007 :  19:23:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cbecks

You wouldn't have got in.


Why?

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Posted - 29/11/2007 :  19:28:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You're not a member.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5815 Posts

Posted - 29/11/2007 :  19:29:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cbecks

You're not a member.

A member of what?

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Posted - 29/11/2007 :  19:31:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The debating society.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
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Posted - 29/11/2007 :  19:35:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nick Griffin & David Letterman

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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5815 Posts

Posted - 29/11/2007 :  19:41:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cbecks

The debating society.

Ah yes ... well, there are ways of getting invites. Anyway, not exactly a national platform then and by all accounts ... it was a hoot
quote:
So the Union honoured its avowed commitment to free speech (Harold Macmillan once described it, with perhaps a little hyperbole, as “the last bastion of free speech in the Western world”). It also, of course, generated the sort of controversy that is another part of its historic mission—witness the infamous 1933 debate on a motion that “This House will under no circumstances fight for King and Country”, and a more recent invitation to O.J. Simpson. The only people to emerge with little or no credit from the occasion were the chaotic police, Mr Irving and Mr Griffin.
here

Sorry to have missed it

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Posted - 29/11/2007 :  19:48:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You wouldn't have got an invite and no it wasn't a national platform but now it is thanks to those who thought it was a hoot.

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Posted - 29/11/2007 :  19:57:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
oh and by the way i haven't read your link. I censored it.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5815 Posts

Posted - 29/11/2007 :  19:59:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cbecks

You wouldn't have got an invite and no it wasn't a national platform but now it is thanks to those who thought it was a hoot.



You assume so if it makes you feel any better and as for it being a national platform ... no dearling, it is still only a student union debating society platform. The issues are admittedly national but there is a difference. Then again, the issues always have been.

Vive la (petite) difference A subtlety lost on most hobnails and jackboots.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld



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Posted - 29/11/2007 :  20:02:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not half as effectively as our LiveWire censored yours though!

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Posted - 29/11/2007 :  20:04:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No matter you still wouldn't have got in and it made more publicity than many national platforms can only dream of doing.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5815 Posts

Posted - 29/11/2007 :  20:06:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cbecks

oh and by the way i haven't read your link. I censored it.

I am devastated ... really devastated.

(if I cross my fingers it means it isn't a 'real' lie doesn't it?)

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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld



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Posted - 29/11/2007 :  20:15:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So, CBecks is consoled by the belief that ANY publicity is good publicity - even derision.

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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld



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Posted - 29/11/2007 :  20:15:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So, CBecks is consoled by the belief that ANY publicity is good publicity - even derision.

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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5815 Posts

Posted - 29/11/2007 :  20:18:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cbecks

and it made more publicity than many national platforms can only dream of doing.

HA! yes, that is where you and I do very much agree.

Which is why I am firmly of the opinion that this 'no platform' movement is utterly ludicrous and counterproductive. You see, the thing is that now all these failed pig-farmers and discredited historians have to do is whine about their lack of freedom of speech ... They do not have to establish a case, they do not have to establish a coherent policy statement. They just have to whine.

Now, if they were given a national platform, it would soon become clear that really they have very little of substance to offer. As it happens, the liberals with their 'no platform' policy are just shooting themselves in the foot.

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Posted - 29/11/2007 :  20:20:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No I didn't read it and I'm not a liar.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5815 Posts

Posted - 29/11/2007 :  20:27:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cbecks

No I didn't read it and I'm not a liar.


You show a remarkable tendency to misunderstand the written language ...

Or is this an attempt to draw this whole sad debate to a more personal level. Read my post again and you will see that the term 'lie' is not directed at anything you have posted sweetness.
quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder

quote:
Originally posted by cbecks

oh and by the way i haven't read your link. I censored it.

I am devastated ... really devastated.

(if I cross my fingers it means it isn't a 'real' lie doesn't it?)


"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld



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Posted - 29/11/2007 :  20:35:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How`d he ever manage to follow a speech then. Makes you wonder.

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Posted - 29/11/2007 :  20:40:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder

quote:
Originally posted by cbecks

No I didn't read it and I'm not a liar.


You show a remarkable tendency to misunderstand the written language ...

Or is this an attempt to draw this whole sad debate to a more personal level. Read my post again and you will see that the term 'lie' is not directed at anything you have posted sweetness.
quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder

quote:
Originally posted by cbecks

oh and by the way i haven't read your link. I censored it.

I am devastated ... really devastated.

(if I cross my fingers it means it isn't a 'real' lie doesn't it?)





The point i was making is that I don't need to cross my fingers.
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Posted - 29/11/2007 :  20:46:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fluffy Sheep

How`d he ever manage to follow a speech then. Makes you wonder.



Well at least I did get an opportunity to listen to the speech.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5815 Posts

Posted - 29/11/2007 :  20:47:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cbecks

The point i was making is that I don't need to cross my fingers.

Oh good ... glad to hear it.

You know, you remind me very much of an old sparring partner. Utterly ludicrous politics but a decent sort for all that. I miss him.

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Posted - 29/11/2007 :  21:00:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder

quote:
Originally posted by cbecks

The point i was making is that I don't need to cross my fingers.

Oh good ... glad to hear it.

You know, you remind me very much of an old sparring partner. Utterly ludicrous politics but a decent sort for all that. I miss him.




Really? So where's he gone and why did he go?
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5815 Posts

Posted - 29/11/2007 :  21:06:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cbecks

Really? So where's he gone and why did he go?

Who knows ... it is ever thus on these internet forums ... people come and people go.

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Posted - 29/11/2007 :  21:20:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well you are now surrounded by your friends, what more could you want?
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