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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 09/01/2008 : 18:07:53
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http://www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/index.cfm?request=c1176195
Soon the Plans may be approved
and the WalmartAsda, WalmartAsda Petrol ,
McDonalds etc
will all get Updated with brand new buildings.
But what about the rest of the Marina
can they survive - once building starts?
Life In The City.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2008 : 18:59:20
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
But what about the rest of the Marina
can they survive - once building starts?
Life In The City.
How long ago was the Marina first built? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2008 : 19:10:32
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George Walker
saved the project and finished it
what is your point? |
Edited by - long time no see on 09/01/2008 19:15:14 |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2008 : 19:14:15
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
George Walker
built it,
what is your point?
I didn't ask who built it LTNS but how long ago it was built ... |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2008 : 19:16:03
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1987-88
was the Walker finish date.
Of course works started long before that.
Again Miriam
what is your point? |
Edited by - long time no see on 09/01/2008 19:17:37 |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2008 : 20:04:00
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| 1988? Wow, not that old then ... in relative terms. Just about 20 years would you say? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2008 : 20:06:20
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Again what are YOU
talking about??? |
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Daveb
Earthsea
2211 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2008 : 20:24:58
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| It needs another access road to cope with extra development. |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2008 : 20:32:49
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Originally posted by Daveb
It needs another access road to cope with extra development.
No it does not Dave
they are in the Black Rock area right now
the place that had all those Sand Art Works
a few years ago,
all fenced in.
They have a link now to the sea
to bring in more big rocks and even take ship loads of rubbish out.
Life In The City. |
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Daveb
Earthsea
2211 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2008 : 20:38:34
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It is a marina, it has always had links to the sea!
I am talking about car access. Unless you mean they are going to build a link road to Madeira Drive? That would affect all the summer events. |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2008 : 20:42:31
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They have a road.
Summer Events can still carry on
no problem.
Yes but that new link to the sea goes
direct to the Black Rock site. |
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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld
1178 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2008 : 21:10:04
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| They start brining in big rocks and mucking about with the shoreline, they`ll be just ccreating a disaster somewhere nearby along the coast... |
Row faster, slaves! Caesar wants to waterski! |
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nightowl
Barsoom
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2008 : 21:13:20
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
They have a road.
Summer Events can still carry on
no problem.
Yes but that new link to the sea goes
direct to the Black Rock site.
Have you been to the Marina? There is only one way in and that is bottle necked. Increase the traffic by a small percentage and you will get gridlocked! |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2008 : 21:13:42
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You are wrong Fluffy.
They have brought in Big Rocks along our coast, over the last 4 or 5 years.
No Problem at all. |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2008 : 21:15:27
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Miriam
of course some delays
but then the whole of Brighton now has delays
for a whole year (front page today, infact).
No big Deal.
Again what were you on about before??? |
Edited by - long time no see on 09/01/2008 21:17:44 |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2008 : 21:19:51
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Oh well, so the whole of Brighton has delays and instead of dealing with the delays we will just build in some more ... That makes sense I suppose.
As for my point regarding the length of time the Marina has been built. I would have thought that it is obvious really ... this is not a small project, it has never been a small project. It seems strange that a large public project like that should not have addressed itself to a longer life cycle. Almost as if redundancy was built into it from the start really.
As for the single road access ... that will be the death of the Marina long before anything else is. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2008 : 21:22:45
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Many Folks are looking Forward to Flats in the High Rise.
So no one cares what you think. |
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nightowl
Barsoom
259 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2008 : 21:25:19
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No cars allowed me thinks Miriam, car free zone  |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2008 : 21:37:20
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
Many Folks are looking Forward to Flats in the High Rise.
So no one cares what you think.
Just like they looked forward to the flats in the New England development ... paper-thin walls and no access to the bin area. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2008 : 21:38:13
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| I was referring to the access road nightowl ... |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2008 : 21:39:10
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Bin area,
they will chuck in the sea.
Life In The City. |
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nightowl
Barsoom
259 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2008 : 00:54:21
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quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder
I was referring to the access road nightowl ...
Don't see the Council improving on that Miriam, there will be limited parking for the new residents when built.
The council have a habbit of ignoring the impact on infrastucture... |
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uno mirena
Alagaësía
39 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2008 : 08:23:13
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| I've often wondered what would happen if the road in/out was damaged or blocked. What would happen to all the people living in or visiting the marina? Think worst case scenario, if the road collapsed and needed months to rebuild. What would happen???? |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2008 : 08:35:21
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Good Point Uno
they will have to rebuild that
as well,
as they build. |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1213 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2008 : 10:43:53
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| There is a lot of disgust in the Marina at the way the latest plans were sneaked in over Christmas/New Year for residents' comments. Same old trick as under Labour. And the Council wants to take away gates to make a cycle path... Residents deeply distrust Councillor David Smith. There will be an increase in the Green vote there at the next Election. Greens take Rottingdean? |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2008 : 07:19:34
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| Yes they were sneaked in. |
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Martha Gunn
Barsoom
225 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2008 : 18:46:17
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Lets face it, the Marina is a false environment reclaimed from the sea. If the developers got their way, it would all in infilled so we can only expect as much housing as possible to be crammed into the area available.
On a busy weekend, traffic entering into the Marina backs up to Wilson Ave and also has a knock on effect at the junction at the top of Wilson Ave and the traffic goes back to Bear Road. Adding in several thousand properties is not going to help and there will still just be one road in / one road out. You'd have thought, without creating new transport infrastructure, this simple, fundamental factor would strangle this project at birth. But it doesn't.
There will come a time when that raised road will have to be closed for maintenence - planned or otherwise.
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2008 : 19:03:06
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We do not know
if that New Tower
will have its own road yet.
And yes it may close for some time,
But the All New Big Subway will stay open for the many builders. |
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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld
1178 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2008 : 19:53:30
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| You say I`m Wrong, LT. I hope so. But, time will tell. I`m saying that if you start taking rocks, shale, or whatever, from one bit of coast to another, you`re courting eventual disaster, somewhere along that coast, sooner or later. |
Row faster, slaves! Caesar wants to waterski! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2008 : 19:58:46
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Fluffy
you do not understand.
These Rocks are big and from other nations.
Try topics you have proper info on.
I consider this unacceptable! If anyone other then the poster decides when and where a poster should post it will be Admin and not a fellow forum member. Consider this the only warning I shall give!
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