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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/02/2008 : 15:22:11
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| All your posts prove so far LTNS is how gullible some people are. They would believe anything rather then find out the facts of the matter. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6323 Posts |
 Posted - 09/02/2008 : 15:50:39
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Originally posted by Miriam Binder
It has already started LTNS and wrong or not,
he has managed to drag us all into a can of worms - Halal or otherwise
Very True , Miriam. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5244 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2008 : 15:52:45
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| Which is no reason to jump on the bandwagon of popular misconception. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6323 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2008 : 16:05:05
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It is the Big Topic on News Radio and TV News debates.
He will have to go,
no other way. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5244 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2008 : 18:02:14
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Originally posted by long time no see
It is the Big Topic on News Radio and TV News debates.
He will have to go,
no other way.
You seem rather fond of saying that people will have to go LTNS.
There are plenty of other ways actually. Stop going off into the deep end for starters. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6323 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2008 : 19:00:17
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Millions in the UK are saying it
even those that think there is a god , no less.
This is Public Views all over the UK and World on this Nutter.
And Of Course
there is No God. |
Edited by - long time no see on 09/02/2008 19:01:37 |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5244 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2008 : 19:01:00
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| Well, the same could be said for many a Nationalist ... on the othr hand, anyone that justifies his statement with an 'and everybody knows that ....' I would view with suspicion. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5244 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2008 : 19:31:11
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| You know what I think is really sad? The fact that non of this has become part of the public discourse and that is probably because people were afraid that it would become yet another sledge hammer in the 'Paki' bashing that certain elements of our society seem to delight in so much. |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6323 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2008 : 19:41:19
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Yes and
New Labour does Nothing to help?
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5244 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2008 : 19:44:05
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Originally posted by long time no see
Yes and
New Labour does Nothing to help?
How would you propose Labour help LTNS? |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6323 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2008 : 19:51:06
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Sack that MP Woolas
and make a easy official statement on this subject.
It is like it is too Hot to handle (they claim)
or as I would say New Labour are the out going party
and do not care. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5244 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2008 : 19:57:38
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Originally posted by long time no see
Sack that MP Woolas
and make a easy official statement on this subject.
It is like it is too Hot to handle (they claim)
or as I would say New Labour are the out going party
and do not care.
Ah, so your answer to a very real problem is 'keep it hidden and pretend it doesn't exist' |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
Edited by - Miriam Binder on 10/02/2008 20:04:48 |
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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld
1159 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2008 : 20:02:03
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| Just had another look here to see if there was anything new, and noticed a Google ad at the top of the page - for a Muslim marriage (?dating) agency. I had to chuckle... |
Row faster, slaves! Caesar wants to waterski! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6323 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2008 : 20:21:35
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No Miriam
keeping this hidden is the New Labour way.
It was me that started this thread
just a shame this Forum does not get many posters.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5244 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2008 : 20:27:53
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Originally posted by long time no see
No Miriam
keeping this hidden is the New Labour way.
It was me that started this thread
just a shame this Forum does not get many posters.
I know who started this thread LTNS and that is not under discussion. You complain on the one hand that individuals that address issues need to be removed from office because they bring sensitive issues to the fore and on the other hand that New Labour are hiding things. The Arch Bish was, if I am not mistaken appointed by a New Labour Government and as for Woolas, a New Labour MP ... you lambaste him for pouring oil on the fires and you say he has to go as well.
Do make your mind up LTNS ... either they are not saying enough or saying too much. |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6323 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2008 : 20:53:42
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INBRED MUSLIMS?
Do you not think he should be sacked.
And as for Williams the whole Nation (Except for you)wants him out
that is a Fact.
Also it is not about the amounts said
it is the way you say it. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5244 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2008 : 21:20:51
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Originally posted by long time no see
INBRED MUSLIMS?
Do you not think he should be sacked.
And as for Williams the whole Nation (Except for you)wants him out
that is a Fact.
Also it is not about the amounts said
it is the way you say it.
Has he a case? Are certain groups 'inbreeding'? According to certain evidence it could well be said that they are. If that is the case then that needs to be addressed for their sake as much as for their children's sake.
The fact that it cannot be addressed with sufficient rigour is thanks to the very polarised camps and due to people jumping on the 'Paki' 'Muslim' bandwagon, rather then seeing it for what it is which is a response brought about due to the isolation of this specific group (remember they also said largely from rural communities).
That is not the fault of New Labour or the Arch Bish nor Phil Woolas MP. It is down to hysterical elements in society.
Now I ask you again LTNS. Would you rather we ignored certain issues because it may make some people 'hot under the collar'? Would you have us pussy-foot around pretending that things aren't happening perhaps? So that later on, when they become too big to keep hidden you can go screeching for resignations because they weren't addressed earlier?
As for him stating 'inbred Muslims' ... well, all I have seen so far is a newspaper article. I haven't actually 'heard' anything. Maybe we should address the way it was 'headlined' rather then what was reported? As you quite rightly point out, it is not what is said but how it is said. |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6323 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2008 : 21:41:28
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Ref: of course - YOU do not hear much ,
with respect ,that is due to No TV.
Radio is limited.
It was Debated on BBC1 ITV1 SkyNews Ch4 Ch5 etc.
As for Ignore it
that is also the Muslim way.
You can not Force this Topic on anyone
and these days many know there is no God.
None of this gets me hot under the collar. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5244 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2008 : 22:07:57
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Originally posted by long time no see
None of this gets me hot under the collar.
Just confused. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5244 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2008 : 23:33:47
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Originally posted by long time no see
Ref: of course - YOU do not hear much ,
with respect ,that is due to No TV.
Ever heard of radio LTNS? Stop being such a twit please. It gets boring! |
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nightowl
Barsoom
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Posted - 11/02/2008 : 06:54:58
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Some times it is necessary to think things through before opening ones mouth, but the bishop has just dropped himself in trouble.
The lack of detail in what parts of Islamic law we should adopt is missing too
English law is the only law in this country, we can't have sub sections for Muslim, Catholic or any other religious groups.
Those that come to this country must do so excepting our law is supreme over all others.
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6323 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2008 : 07:09:30
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Originally posted by thedelboy
I believe that Rowan needs a bit of a holiday,Anglican and Catholic ministers priests etc are not allowed to be involved in politics(yes I know Ian Paisley is involved)Religions leaders who go one way or the other in politics should be de-frocked , And this guy has only ever brought controversy to the church it is almost as if he does it just for the publicity.We in the UK have perfectly good laws as it is(OK NOT ALL UK LAWS ARE FAIR. BUT THEY ARE LAWS)the saying "When in Rome do as the Romans do"comes to mind
Nightowl Everyone on this thread
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Daveb
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5244 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2008 : 09:06:28
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It should be an interesting case indeed. Marriage by proxy are not recognised when undertaken in the UK. The sole exception being that where the marriage by proxy has taken part in a country where this is a legal form of matrimony, the UK will recognise the wedding as valid.
So here we have two issues. One, the fact that the marriage by proxy took place, in part in the UK - the groom being domiciled here. Two, the 'groom' being deemed as being incompetent to give his informed consent. One must assume therefore also that he is unable to enter into the 'contract' of matrimony while being aware of the nature of the 'contract' of matrimony.
The problem here is that the 'marriage by proxy' was deemed null and void on the grounds of the 'groom' not being able to give informed consent and it is this that the Judges are asked to adjudicate on. |
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Borninhove
Calaspia
883 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2008 : 09:03:16
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Something that will stick in your head all day ... Hum along now
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 Valhalla, I am coming! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6323 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2008 : 09:04:44
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Good to see you back
I thought the Saudi Guards had removed you. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5244 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2008 : 09:10:54
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Originally posted by Borninhove
Something that will stick in your head all day ... Hum along now
Damn and blast you BiH  It is stuck now and won't go away ...
"Get thee behind me Satan!" I say, " 'way wichu, ... GIT!!!!" |
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Borninhove
Calaspia
883 Posts |
Posted - 18/02/2008 : 06:18:02
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From "Iowahawk" with apologies to Geoffrey Chaucerquote:
Heere Bigynneth the Tale of the Asse-Hatte
1 Whan in Februar, withe hise global warmynge
2 Midst unseasonabyl rain and stormynge
3 Gaia in hyr heat encourages
4 Englande folke to goon pilgrimages.
5 Frome everiches farme and shire
6 Frome London Towne and Lancanshire
7 The pilgryms toward Canterbury wended
8 Wyth fyve weke holiday leave extended
9 In hybryd Prius and Subaru
10 Off the Boughton Bypasse, east on M2.
11 Fouer and Twyntie theye came to seke
12 The Arche-Bishop, wyse and meke
13 Labouryte and hippye, Gaye and Greene
14 Anti-warre and libertyne
15 All sondry folke urbayne and progressyve
16 Vexed by Musselmans aggressyve.
17 Hie and thither to the Arche-Bishop's manse
18 The pilgryms ryde and fynde perchance
19 The hooly Bishop takynge tea
20 Whilste watching himselfe on BBC.
21 Heere was a hooly manne of peace
22 Withe bearyd of snow and wyld brows of fleece
23 Whilhom stoode athwart the Bush crusades
24 Withe peace march papier-mache paraydes.
25 Sayeth the pilgryms to Bishop Rowan,
26 "Father, we do not like howe thynges are goin'.
27 You know we are as Lefte as thee,
28 But of layte have beyn chaunced to see
29 From Edinburgh to London-towne
30 The Musslemans in burnoose gowne
31 Who beat theyr ownselfs with theyr knyves
32 Than goon home and beat theyr wyves
33 And slaye theyr daughtyrs in honour killlynge
34 Howe do we stoppe the bloode fromme spillynge?"
35 The Bishop sipped upon hys tea
36 And sayed, "an open mind must we
37 Keep, for know thee well the Mussel-man
38 Has hys own laws for hys own clan
39 So question not hys Muslim reason
40 And presaerve ye well social cohesion."
41 Sayth the libertine, "'tis well and goode
42 But sharia goes now where nae it should;
43 I liketh bigge buttes and I cannot lye,
44 You othere faelows can't denye,
45 But the council closed my wenching pub,
46 To please the Imams, aye thaere's the rub."
47 Sayeth the Bishop, strokynge his chin,
48 "To the Mosque-man, sexe is sinne
49 So as to staye in his goode-graces
50 Cover well thy wenches' faces
51 And abstain ye Chavs from ribaldry
52 Welcome him to our communitie."
53 "But Father Williams," sayed the Gaye-manne
54 "Though I am but a layman
55 The Mussleman youthes hath smyte me so
56 Whan on streets I saunter wyth my beau."
57 Sayed the Bishop in a curt replye
58 "I am as toolrant as anye oothere guy,
59 But if Mussleman law sayes no packynge fudge,
60 Really nowe, who are we to judge?"
61 Then bespake the Po-Mo artist,
62 "My last skulptyure was hailed as smartest
63 Bye sondry criticks at the Tate
64 Whom called it genius, brillyant, greate
65 A Jesus skulpted out of dunge
66 Earned four starres in the Guardian;
67 But now the same schtick withe Mo-ha-med
68 Has earned a bountye on my hed."
69 Sayed the Bishop, "that's quyte impressyve
70 To crafte a Jesus so transgressyve
71 But to do so with the Muslim Prophet
72 Doomed thy neck to lose whats off it.
73 Thou should have showen mor chivalrie
74 In committynge such a blasphemie."
75 And so it went, the pilgryms all
76 Complaynynge of the Muslim thrall;
77 To eaches same the Bishop lectured
78 About the cultur fabrick textured
79 With rainbow threyds from everie nation
80 With rainbow laws for all situations.
81 "But Father Rowan, we bathyr nae one
82 We onlye want to hav our funne!"
83 "But the Musselman is sure to see
84 Thy funne as Western hegemony.
85 'Tis not Cristian for Cristians to cause
86 The Moor to live by Cristendom's laws
87 Whan he has hise sovereyn culture
88 Crist bade us put ours in sepulture.
89 To be divyne we must first be diverse
90 So cheer thee well, thynges could be wors
91 Sharia is Englishe as tea and scones,
92 So everybody muste get stoned."
93 The pilgryms shuffled for the door
94 To face the rule of the Moor;
95 Poets, Professors, Starbucks workers
96 Donning turbans, veils and burqqas.
97 As they face theyr fynal curtan
98 Of Englande folk, one thynge is certan:
99 Dying by theyr own thousande cuts,
100 The Englande folk are folking nuts.
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Williams wants a UK Sharia Law
