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pickypockypook
Barsoom
229 Posts |
 Posted - 03/04/2007 : 18:14:55
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Just wondered what everyone thought. i was told at school that god created earth but didn't get told where god came from. any ideas
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Pelagia
Barsoom
479 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2007 : 18:21:23
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| My question as well, which is why I am an athiest! |
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pickypockypook
Barsoom
229 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2007 : 18:24:20
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| same here. i tend not to answer the door when the old bible bashers come knocking i wouldn't want to make them question themself. |
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Pelagia
Barsoom
479 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2007 : 18:29:27
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| Oh no, I enjoy a good religious argument! |
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pickypockypook
Barsoom
229 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2007 : 18:34:24
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i agree but with most of them its like bashing your head against the wall. there so wrapped up in there bible pages that if you say anything against god like "if he was such a great bloke then why have we all the bad things in the world" there answer is always "blame the devil"
I have my seat booked in hell already right next to te fire so i can get a nice tan  |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2007 : 20:15:27
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quote:
Originally posted by pickypockypook
Just wondered what everyone thought. i was told at school that god created earth but didn't get told where god came from. any ideas
No God is from a Old Fable book.
There is No God.
FACT. |
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pickypockypook
Barsoom
229 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2007 : 20:17:26
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No God is from a Old Fable book.
There is No God.
FACT.
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so where did the world come from? |
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nightbird
Calaspia
603 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2007 : 20:26:44
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where did god come from?
So is there a place where you can aquire a god ?
Woolmart comes to mind LT or is it Tesco's buy one get one free..... |
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pickypockypook
Barsoom
229 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2007 : 20:28:19
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2007 : 20:37:20
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quote:
Originally posted by pickypockypook
so where did the world come from?
Simple.
This World came from A Exploading Sun.
FACT. |
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pickypockypook
Barsoom
229 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2007 : 20:38:16
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| yes but then where did that exploading sun come from? |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2007 : 20:42:09
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quote:
Originally posted by pickypockypook
yes but then where did that exploading sun come from?
Another far away Universe.
Which also has No God.
FACT. |
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nightbird
Calaspia
603 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2007 : 20:42:33
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Since the caveman stood on that hilltop looking at the stars at night, pondering the meaning of life and thinking "its bloody cold can't wait until the sun rises and everytyhing bursts into life with its warmth and light"
The sun will be the only true god, without it we would be nothing"
Happy easter..... |
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pickypockypook
Barsoom
229 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2007 : 20:45:55
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the simple fact is no one knows where anything came from because there will always be the question where did "it" come from.
Happy Easter to you to nightbird |
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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld
1228 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2007 : 20:49:48
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Hi Picky. I`m a Christian, and since you asked, I`m replying... but first let me say I`m not one of those who pester other folks with what I believe, and I respect other folks` right to disbelieve entirely, or to believe in some different way - and there are many. (I really DON`T know of anyone that has been `converted` by the Bible-bashers pestering at their doors - they may get a few recruits among folks who already believed or half-believed, and from folks who are desperately lonely, but mostly these bang-on-the-door pesterers don`t do much except annoy and alienate folks!)
I`ll try to answer your question, Picky, but only by saying "I Don`t Know"! Right, that maybe doesn`t seem like much of an answer, does it? When my kids were young and asked questions, I felt it was better to be honest and say `I don`t know`, rather than make something up! I don`t think it did them any harm to realise that their mum might know a lot but she didn`t know EVERYTHING.
I feel certain that God exists, and must always have existed.
Can you get your head around the idea of Infinity? (I can`t!)Forewards or backwards, scientists speak of Infinity, it`s in their equations.
I don`t think we can know everything, but I believe we have to try, to get our heads around some things that are so beyond our tiny brains - even the brainy folks are tiny on the scale I`m getting at. When your Bible-bashers next knock on your door, if their faith is sound your questions won`t undermine it...but just ask them if they`d agree that it`s ok NOT to know all the answers, and that if they are to win any converts it`s by their Faith, rather than any prepared glib answers that they`ll achieve it. |
Row faster, slaves! Caesar wants to waterski! |
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Tombstone Blues
Earthsea
2260 Posts |
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pickypockypook
Barsoom
229 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2007 : 21:09:49
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evening fluffy,
it was just a question thats bothered me for years and was wondering if anyone knew the answer but it seems it could never be answered. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6333 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2007 : 21:15:50
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And that my dears is where god came from ... in all the questions that are, for now, unanswerable. ... God is a man-made construct that spans the spaces between the known and the unknown, the defined and the undefinable, the comprehensible and the incomprehensible.
For some god is indeed a matter of faith, for others an issue of answers. For some, a crutch for others a shoulder or a sharer of burdens. And some others still god is something to rail at or justify things with and edicts through and restrictions by. Either god exists in which case god exists in each and everyone regardless of whether we acknowledge the existence of god or god does not exist regardless of whether we believe or trust in the existence of god.
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"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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pickypockypook
Barsoom
229 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2007 : 21:20:02
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| that still doesn't answer the question of where did the world come from. |
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Tombstone Blues
Earthsea
2260 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2007 : 21:23:19
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| It was created by the flying spaghetti monster. |
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pickypockypook
Barsoom
229 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2007 : 21:25:39
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| lol yes i saw the picture. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6333 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2007 : 21:28:32
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| The dominant scientific theory |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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pickypockypook
Barsoom
229 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2007 : 21:33:22
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| the big bang my back side. fine if thats what they say then where did the universe, black holes and all the rest come from? |
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Tombstone Blues
Earthsea
2260 Posts |
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pickypockypook
Barsoom
229 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2007 : 21:52:07
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| and another thing thats crossed my mind many times. so it says that we are all gods children, doesn't that mean we are all commiting insest? don't moan at me for lowering the tone either im just stating that the bible contradicts itself |
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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld
1228 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2007 : 22:02:08
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| I like your post back there Miriam. I do think that we mis-use the concept of God. I also think that, like any parent, He is not entirely surprised, if at times saddened and disappointed at how the offspring behave! |
Row faster, slaves! Caesar wants to waterski! |
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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld
1228 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2007 : 22:24:33
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| Yup, Picky, there`s contradictions in the Bible. Christians also contradict each other, even those today, in the same denominational structure. I think this is only to be expected when we start trying to give answers when we should be saying `I believe`. LTNS puts `FACT` in his posts when he feels sure about what he believes. Although I wish he,and others, could share the Faith I have, I don`t ever attempt to do it like that. LTNS, you know, if you suddenly got religion, you`d probably become a great missionary or something like that! |
Row faster, slaves! Caesar wants to waterski! |
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Buster
Alagaësía
29 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2007 : 02:23:26
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quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder
And that my dears is where god came from ... in all the questions that are, for now, unanswerable. ... God is a man-made construct that spans the spaces between the known and the unknown, the defined and the undefinable, the comprehensible and the incomprehensible.
For some god is indeed a matter of faith, for others an issue of answers. For some, a crutch for others a shoulder or a sharer of burdens. And some others still god is something to rail at or justify things with and edicts through and restrictions by. Either god exists in which case god exists in each and everyone regardless of whether we acknowledge the existence of god or god does not exist regardless of whether we believe or trust in the existence of god.
Halleluja praise the lord! |
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pickypockypook
Barsoom
229 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2007 : 07:06:20
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| how can you have faith in something thats constantly conradicting itselfs? |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6333 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2007 : 07:13:30
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| It's a personal choice. Faith implies that you trust implicitly regardless of whether you have concrete evidence and regardless of whether constancy is there or not. If you take something on faith, you trust that it is so. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Hambag
Barsoom
140 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2007 : 11:39:47
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| Richard Dawkins created god to help sell his books. |
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where did god come from?