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 Posted - 04/04/2007 : 15:16:19
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| If God existed we would all be the same religion, we would all believe in God without having to be taught about God by Churches Mosques Synagogues etc it would be an innate belief.Better than a belief we would all know of God as a fact. |
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Miriam Binder
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Posted - 04/04/2007 : 15:17:50
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Originally posted by Karma
If God existed we would all be the same religion, we would all believe in God without having to be taught about God by Churches Mosques Synagogues etc it would be an innate belief.Better than a belief we would all know of God as a fact.
How so? |
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Fluffy Sheep
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Posted - 04/04/2007 : 20:29:06
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Originally posted by pickypockypook
how can you have faith in something thats constantly conradicting itselfs?
Picky, it`s not GOD who is constantly contradicting Himself, it`s the folks who claim to represent Him, they are doing that - because that`s only human nature - and all the archbishops and popes etc. are still only human after all. God is there, I`m sure of that. (Faith) I`m a lot less sure that His human representatives are getting the message right.
I respect them for trying, but I do tend to cut out the middlemen, I pray where and when I feel I need to, and that doesn`t often involve our local clergy (I work most Sundays as our ward sister has a mean streak!) |
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Posted - 04/04/2007 : 20:41:02
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Originally posted by Miriam Binder
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Originally posted by Karma
If God existed we would all be the same religion, we would all believe in God without having to be taught about God by Churches Mosques Synagogues etc it would be an innate belief.Better than a belief we would all know of God as a fact.
How so?
Why would an omipresent omniscient omnipotent God not have all his creation know of him without relying on fallible instructions from other mere mortals.Why would such a God permit those he created to believe in 'Other Gods' or 'No God' ?
Unless you disagree with Einstein and take the view that 'God does play dice with the universe' |
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Posted - 04/04/2007 : 20:47:31
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A dyslexic agnostic insomniac is someone who tosses and turns all night wondering if there really is a DOG  |
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long time no see
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Posted - 04/04/2007 : 21:11:04
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Originally posted by Fluffy Sheep
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Originally posted by pickypockypook
how can you have faith in something thats constantly conradicting itselfs?
Picky, it`s not GOD who is constantly contradicting Himself, it`s the folks who claim to represent Him, they are doing that - because that`s only human nature - and all the archbishops and popes etc. are still only human after all. God is there, I`m sure of that. (Faith) I`m a lot less sure that His human representatives are getting the message right.
I respect them for trying, but I do tend to cut out the middlemen, I pray where and when I feel I need to, and that doesn`t often involve our local clergy (I work most Sundays as our ward sister has a mean streak!)
Fluffy you must get this great book
it will really help you understand why sadly
there is No god.
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Fluffy Sheep
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Posted - 04/04/2007 : 21:34:09
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Thankyou LTNS. Come and knock on my door and try to sell me a copy...
I`ll respect your views, I`ll be polite but firm, and I`ll not try to convert you other than by saying I have faith that you will not shake, that your books will not shake. I will not ask you to read anything but my own sincerity.
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Fluffy Sheep
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Posted - 04/04/2007 : 21:37:12
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| PS, I might read it sometime, not saying I won`t. |
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BLONDIE
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Posted - 07/04/2007 : 01:28:38
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If you want to believe in something [religion] then that is your prerogative.
If you do not wish to believe in anything [religion] that is also your prerogative.
It is a personal choice and no-one has the right to force you one way or the other.
So how did the World get here? Certainly NOT the "big bang" because if this was so, what was there before, and what caused the so called "big bang"?
The Universe as we know it is infinate. It is one of those things that the human mind is generally incapable of understanding. It has always been and it will always be. It is forever changing and will continue to do so for ever and ever and ever and ever............................................ |
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BLONDIE
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Posted - 07/04/2007 : 01:46:12
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A "God" is a deity in various forms, both physical and spiritual. Ever since he appeared on this planet man has had to have something to believe in. Whether it be an idol that he can see or a spiritual being that he believes exists, is neither here nor there. He just has to have something to believe in. The reasons are legion. [e.g.] There is a drought, so he prays to the 'rain god' for rain. If by chance it rains then he believes his prayers have been answered. If there is no rain, then he will say it is the will of the rain god because he has committed a sin or some such thing.
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BLONDIE
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Posted - 07/04/2007 : 02:04:29
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| Don't know what happened but cannot erase the block completely. Perhaps the Moderator can oblige??? |
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BLONDIE
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Posted - 07/04/2007 : 02:22:54
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Horseman7
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Posted - 07/04/2007 : 12:15:35
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Blondie, have you got a wobbly finger today?
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Posted - 07/04/2007 : 18:01:47
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BLONDIE
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Posted - 08/04/2007 : 14:18:53
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TV PROGRAMME. "COMPASS" The story of God PT.1 - Life, the Universe & Everything. Watched this evening. Narrated by Robert Winston [now Lord Winston]
Don't know if this has yet to be shown on UK TV, but I suggest that anyone interested, find out and watch it. It is brilliant. |
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Posted - 13/04/2007 : 21:55:18
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i always wonder that question about where God came from, everyone tells me "he was just their?" but how can he just BE THEIR, guess we will never know till judgement.
i love when jehova witness's come a knocking, had one last year and she would come every week atleast once or twice and we would stand their talking about creation and i would give her my views and she would give me hers, and it did get to the point where she realised i would never take her word so they became more just general discussion. but unfortuantly i hit a rocky couple of months, and we came to the conclusion that the meetings were point less, i see her now and again and always say hi, but thats just me! give me a religious debate and im in their! lol!,
im so used to people trying to convince me into religion that i now know exactly what to say to not offend them but at the same time make it clear that although im up for a conversation about it, i wont be up for them throwing their ideas in my face and expecting me to agree with every response. |
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Posted - 13/04/2007 : 22:39:46
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| We don't even know where are we coming from and who we really are ... |
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Posted - 13/04/2007 : 23:07:44
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| i know who iam, i look at myself in the mirror and my mates tell me my name, why do we need to know? you know your name and your gender etc etc....y need any more? this is one of those questions we will never have an answer to till we meet God, till then we are being tested to see how far we will go to express ourselfs, and be who we are. how far we will go to not be part of the crowd, you will never find the answer while you are alive, so why chase something that your not yet ready to understand? |
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BLONDIE
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Posted - 15/04/2007 : 04:44:23
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Posted - 15/04/2007 : 09:42:09
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God was an astronaught !
But if you are an atheist God would be an astro-nought........ |
I came into the world with nothing and still have most of it left.. |
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Miriam Binder
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 Posted - 15/04/2007 : 09:56:00
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BLONDIE
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Posted - 15/04/2007 : 14:31:59
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EZEKIAL Chapter One.
He was an astronaught from another time and place ! |
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BLONDIE
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Posted - 15/04/2007 : 14:33:42
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EZEKIAL Chapter One.
He was an astronaught from another time and place ! |
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Miriam Binder
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Posted - 15/04/2007 : 16:20:29
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Originally posted by BLONDIE
EZEKIAL Chapter One.
He was an astronaught from another time and place !
On what do you base this? On the reported vision of a so called priest in exile who, not being able to fulfil his priestly calling, decides to become a prophet instead?
I'm reliably informed that magic mushrooms can bring similar visions |
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Tombstone Blues
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Posted - 15/04/2007 : 20:52:21
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Eric Von Daniken.
Silly old git. |
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Denise
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Posted - 15/04/2007 : 21:26:27
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Eric Von Daniken.
Silly old git.
He was exposed as a liar years ago - by "Horizon", if I remember correctly.
He excused entire invented tracts of his books by saying that "stretching the truth" was admissable in German-language non-fiction writing.
And did he stretch the truth! Visits to caves full of fantastical treasures he never made, photographs of "landing strips for spacecraft" that were feet across rather than the miles his pictures made them appear, painted stones that could only have come from outer space, but which turned out to be the work of a local Indian tribe - working to a certain Erich Von Daniken's order.
He's still at it, though, isn't he? |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
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Posted - 15/04/2007 : 22:01:38
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| Still, you have to admit, he sold those four books of his ... from what I seem to remember people were lapping it up in the 70s. |
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BLONDIE
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Posted - 16/04/2007 : 15:39:50
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von Daniken has nothing to do with my comments. I opted out of the Catholic religion many years before I left school and out of interest took up the study of comparative religion. von Daniken and his "Chariot of the Gods" came twenty + years later.
I suggest you actually analyse the description, draw it, and see what you come up with. NASA did with suprising results.
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Miriam Binder
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Posted - 16/04/2007 : 15:45:48
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| The raving visions of a man's lunacy, or drug induced psychosis for that matter is still limited by man's own imagination. However I take it that you are seriously proposing that god is an astronaut? |
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where did god come from?