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Miriam Binder
Earthsea


United Kingdom
5821 Posts

Posted - 26/02/2008 :  23:43:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It seems that the consultation for this started quite a while ago but for some reason the matter had been kept rather quiet and low key. We now have only till the end of March to get as many signatures as possible.


Email the council with your objections:
ehl.community@brighton-hove.gov.uk

Join the BARKING MAD CAMPAIGN GROUP
www.myspace.com/barkingmadcampaign

Sign our petition
www.petitiononline.com/BRIGHTON

Join the protest march on Saturday 1st March

HELP US KEEP BRIGHTON AND HOVE DOG FRIENDLY

Control Panel
Discworld



1213 Posts

Posted - 27/02/2008 :  09:11:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This ban is another of the terrible plans by Geoffrey Theobald.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5821 Posts

Posted - 27/02/2008 :  09:20:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Backed no doubt by his wife Carole ...

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld



1292 Posts

Posted - 27/02/2008 :  09:45:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I see that Paul Elgood is sitting on the fence over this, and, indeed, seems concerned only about the Brunswick bit of the beach.


http://brunswickblog.blogspot.com/
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5821 Posts

Posted - 27/02/2008 :  10:07:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There should indeed be parts of the beaches that are dog free. I think most responsible people would agree to that. Just as there are parts of the city where it should be necessary to have your dog on a leash. I for one would be far more amenable to the occasional restriction on dogs and their owners had there been some designated areas where dogs are free to be free; like doggy parks for instance.

I accept that not all people are doggie people but for some of those who are their dog is a lifeline ... and I am not talking about 'seeing-eye' dogs or 'helper' dogs where this is self evident. I am talking about the little old lady or gent who would never really go for a walk was it not for the fact that their dog needs it. I am talking about those who depend on their dogs for company and a listening ear, for the non-judgemental unconditional acceptance that only an animal can give - and none so well as a dog. Not all dog owned humans can make their way to a remote part of the Downs.

Leah, Sasha and a friend they made ...



My Leah, supervising the pups as they 'rough-and-tumble'

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5821 Posts

Posted - 27/02/2008 :  10:09:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As for Elgood and that Theobald

'Almonds' to the pair of yez!

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Control Panel
Discworld



1213 Posts

Posted - 27/02/2008 :  12:15:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder

As for Elgood and that Theobald

'Almonds' to the pair of yez!




This is a finer specimen than Elgood and Theobald combined.

Geoffrey Theobald has become the most unpopular man in Brighton and Hove.
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Edwin the Scot
Alagaësía



16 Posts

Posted - 28/02/2008 :  16:23:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is a grand dog march from the Lagoon at eleven o'clock on Saturday 1st, and goes to the Palace Pier. People and dogs, or just people, can join along the way.

Canine power could win the day, and send Geoffrey Theobald to whatever pound is used for wild politicians to cool off.
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Martha Gunn
Barsoom



225 Posts

Posted - 28/02/2008 :  20:09:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
will they be picking up their dog mess as they go?
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5821 Posts

Posted - 28/02/2008 :  20:46:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Martha Gunn

will they be picking up their dog mess as they go?

Theobald and Elgood? Let's hope so

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Control Panel
Discworld



1213 Posts

Posted - 29/02/2008 :  08:44:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is news that could be handy if Geoffrey Theobald and Brian Oxley do not play ball.

A postie in Philadelphia was trapped inside her car for nearly two hours at a house near Hanover earlier in the week after a pair of dogs attacked and flattened three of her tyres

Robin Barton had to summon help by cell phone Wednesday. When the police arrived, the dogs attacked the cruiser's tyre as well.

Authorities were preparing to tranquilize the dogs Judge and Justice, a Rottweiler and a pit-bull mix, before the surprised and apologetic homeowner arrived.

Stephanie Dekelbaum, the dogs' owner, called them ''generally sweethearts'' and blamed the attack on a tyre toy the dogs had recently been given.
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld



1292 Posts

Posted - 01/03/2008 :  16:47:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mrs Poppadum has learnt that, behind the scenes, the Council's Chief Executive, Alan McCarthy, is taking a lot of flak for not having had the sense to realise that the dog ban would bring a great deal of bad publicity.

He is in a position to have advised against the proposal before it was ever aired but did not do so.
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Daveb
Earthsea



2215 Posts

Posted - 01/03/2008 :  18:35:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In principle the idea of clean beaches is great.
Trouble they are always going to be messed up by something.
Things have improved around Brighton & Hove with regard to dog mess. As a boy I can clearly remember getting covered in it when playing football in parks around Brighton and treading in it more than once in the streets.

Again, dog owners (like smokers) all get a blanket ban.
If there can be designated dog beaches then there can be designated smoking pubs etc.

Too much like common sense!!!

We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you!
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld



1292 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2008 :  09:29:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Geoffrey Theobald would not have been welcome at this party.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-SPE-Pets-Birthday-Parties.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5821 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2008 :  09:33:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Infinite Poppadum

Geoffrey Theobald would not have been welcome at this party.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-SPE-Pets-Birthday-Parties.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

It is eejits like that poor poochs' owner that give pet lovers a bad name.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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thedelboy
Discworld



United Kingdom
1402 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2008 :  09:36:05  Show Profile  Send thedelboy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
what next a ban on seagulls ??

keep on smiling
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flaming pie
Alagaësía



90 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2008 :  09:42:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by thedelboy

what next a ban on seagulls ??



A seagull 'got' me last week on Hove Prom - I say ban them all!
I was so amazed at getting a dollop on my head and shoulders that i collided with a chap on a bicycle doing about 30 mph over the no cycling sign. He did look so cross.
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Control Panel
Discworld



1213 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2008 :  19:22:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I notice that Councillor David Watkins has now come to heel, and signed the Petition. He is on the latest page. A bit slow, he's been. The Central Ward Conservative councillors have not signed it. This could cost them their seats.
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Control Panel
Discworld



1213 Posts

Posted - 15/03/2008 :  09:43:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a man with considerably more humanity than Geoffrey Theobald.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/portal/main.jhtml?xml=/portal/2008/03/15/ftdogwhisper.xml
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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld



1178 Posts

Posted - 15/03/2008 :  22:55:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for that link, CP. I do agree with much of what that chap is saying. Banning dogs from beaches is about as sensible as banning kids from them, then you could say `unaccompanied` kids. Then yopu`d hope that the accompanying adults would ensure the kids didn`t wreck and litter the place - and that the adults themselves wouldn`t either. Hopeful, aren`t we?

Row faster, slaves! Caesar wants to waterski!
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nightowl
Barsoom



259 Posts

Posted - 16/03/2008 :  09:15:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is there a problem with dogs fouling the beach? doubt it, if there is a real problem it would be discarded sharps.

A case of council officials solving a problem that doesn't exist, typical waste of public money again........
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Daveb
Earthsea



2215 Posts

Posted - 16/03/2008 :  09:33:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Going for the easy targets again.
Next will be incontinent old folk being banned from the beach and buses!

We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you!
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Control Panel
Discworld



1213 Posts

Posted - 17/03/2008 :  22:25:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This man is outraged by Geoffrey Theobald.

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/letters/argusletters/display.var.2124458.0.a_valuable_insight_from_seat_in_the_public_gallery.php
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld



1292 Posts

Posted - 20/03/2008 :  08:14:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Will Geoffrey Theobald take this as a precedent to ban people from feeding birds?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/20/nyregion/20pigeons.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
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Anubis
Barsoom



279 Posts

Posted - 20/03/2008 :  08:41:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Control Panel

This man is outraged by Geoffrey Theobald.

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/letters/argusletters/display.var.2124458.0.a_valuable_insight_from_seat_in_the_public_gallery.php



Only a moron could have dealings with Geoffrey and NOT be "outraged".

Yet again, the 'consultation' issue. So far as Councils (and governments!) are concerned, a 'consultation' means no more than that opportunity is provided for everyone to express a point of view. There is no suggestion nor commitment that the authority in question has to act upon the views expressed, even if they clearly reflect the majority opinion.
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Control Panel
Discworld



1213 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2008 :  10:45:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anybody know when the Council will announce the result of its "consultation"?

There are suspicions that Geoffrey Theoabld will want to ban the dogs in revenge for not being chosen as Tory leader, which was partly the result of the great upset he caused with his anti-dogs measure.
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Borninhove
Discworld



1028 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2008 :  11:03:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


Geoffrey's response to the people's protests

Valhalla, I am coming!
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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld



1178 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2008 :  21:49:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Like it was the dogs` fault he didn`t get to be Tory Leader! He must be a real moron...

Row faster, slaves! Caesar wants to waterski!
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Control Panel
Discworld



1213 Posts

Posted - 17/04/2008 :  21:06:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fluffy Sheep

Like it was the dogs` fault he didn`t get to be Tory Leader! He must be a real moron...



Tory councillors were shocked by his handling of the Dogs issue, and this made the voting between him and Mary Mears very close - there was one vote in it.
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld



1292 Posts

Posted - 24/05/2008 :  21:14:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And it's bad news for cats here.

Will Geoffrey Theobald try this one next?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/may/24/1
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5821 Posts

Posted - 24/05/2008 :  21:33:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Petty officialdom gone bloody minded.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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