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Borninhove
Discworld


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Posted - 11/05/2008 :  10:33:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From today's Independent:

Goths and pagans are reinventing morris dancing

Over to Moon23


Goth Morris Men & Women


Quaff!



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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/05/2008 :  12:42:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote



Tribal UK changes
as Out Going Scottish Dithering Brown
stays afloat.


Sign Of The Times.
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Borninhove
Discworld



1033 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2008 :  12:48:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see




Tribal UK changes
as Out Going Scottish Dithering Brown
AAAARRRRRRGGGHHH!!!!!!
stays afloat.


Sign Of The Times.


Valhalla, I am coming!

Edited by - Borninhove on 11/05/2008 12:50:24
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moon23
Calaspia



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Posted - 12/05/2008 :  09:50:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


Here is a picture of the famous moon dancing, notice how pretty and colorful my side is.

Ok the thing about this article is that the Witchmen were dancing in the neo-pagan tradition since the early 80's about 10-15 years before this side, so this really isn't anything new going on here.

Some cotswold sides dance with hankies and sticks, there are also other styles of morris such as North-west, there are also border morris sides who don’t think of themselves as pagan, so it’s all a bit more of a complex picture than painted here (as so often is the case). I mean people still do maypole dancing, but maypole dancing isn’t seen by everyone as being ‘pagan’ it’s just a tradition that people partake in.

There have been active Border Morris sides dancing since the 70s, and some sketchy evidence of the Borders tradition going back further as mentioned in the articule. Folk dancing has always been part of the so-called 'pagan' tradition, but it has never known itself as pagan. Neo-Paganism is a fashion statement. All the lord and lady wiccan crap is a bit over stated.

Recently there was the excellent Imagined village folk project that was trying to reconnect folk music with modern culture and updating the sound. Of course this aspect is important, but personally I think it’s also important that the people who have been authentically preserving and carrying on dances and songs down the generation continue to do so. Sometimes it can be a bit frustrating for these people when a famous artist claims to be rediscovering folk music or reinventing it.

All traditions are re-invented though, Morris like folk music is a living tradition handed down the generations. Each generation put's its own stamp on it. Mainly there are lots of regional differences between styles and dances. I'm glad that these people are reinventing a tradition and putting their own style to it. That's what culture is all about new mixes. There will still be people who try and recreate the more traditional forms of the dance and that's great too.

Whether or not women were allowed to dance caused a bigger storm than this during the Morris world. I dance in a mixed side, but many think this is not traditional.

Many of the traditional cotwold dancers can be quite po-faced but then there are other Cotswold side that we go out with together. There is plenty of space for all the different styles.


http://www.witchmen.com/

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moon23
Calaspia



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Posted - 12/05/2008 :  10:23:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've put more of my comments on my blog

http://moon23.wordpress.com/2008/05/12/goths-re-inventing-morris/
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Hambag
Barsoom



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Posted - 12/05/2008 :  12:24:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.rathergood.com/morris_dancers/
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Borninhove
Discworld



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Posted - 12/05/2008 :  12:34:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow! All morris men should have a giant chinchilla doing fast ragga!

I have fond memories as a boy of seeing a morris men troupe who had a guy dressed in a scary dragon costume who would spend the dances scaring the life out of little children and goosing women. Ah, such happy times. He'd probably get arrested nowadays.


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Edited by - Borninhove on 12/05/2008 12:39:09
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/05/2008 :  12:58:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My very favourite Morris Dancers are depicted in the book 'Lords and Ladies' by Terry Pratchett ...

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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moon23
Calaspia



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Posted - 12/05/2008 :  13:13:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Borninhove

Wow! All morris men should have a giant chinchilla doing fast ragga!

I have fond memories as a boy of seeing a morris men troupe who had a guy dressed in a scary dragon costume who would spend the dances scaring the life out of little children and goosing women. Ah, such happy times. He'd probably get arrested nowadays.





They are quite good, problem is the cost of the Chinchilla feed has gone through the roof with the rising food prices.

Looking forward to getting my invite to dance at the 2012 Olympic games openining cermony.
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moon23
Calaspia



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Posted - 12/05/2008 :  13:20:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Borninhove
Discworld



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Posted - 12/05/2008 :  13:26:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Excellent morrising, but next time MOVE THE BOLLARD! I kept waiting for one of you to stumble over it. It was most worrying.

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moon23
Calaspia



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Posted - 12/05/2008 :  13:44:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Borninhove

Excellent morrising, but next time MOVE THE BOLLARD! I kept waiting for one of you to stumble over it. It was most worrying.




It's a health & safety requirment to put it down. Part of a new EU regulation.
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Borninhove
Discworld



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Posted - 12/05/2008 :  13:46:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh sheesh! A health and safety requirement? What about if one of you twists an ankle on the stupid thing? Where's your health and safety then?

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moon23
Calaspia



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Posted - 12/05/2008 :  13:59:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Borninhove

Oh sheesh! A health and safety requirement? What about if one of you twists an ankle on the stupid thing? Where's your health and safety then?



That's an occupational hazard, along with getting your knuckle split open by the stick.

Sometimes the sticks split and go flying into the crowd, but we have public health insurance to cover that...

Did you know Morris dancing got a special exemption from the licensing act. Meaning it can be performed anywhere.
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moon23
Calaspia



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Posted - 15/05/2008 :  11:24:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


Just been told this video is up of my side on mayday. I'm one of the ones with the sticks.
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Borninhove
Discworld



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Posted - 15/05/2008 :  11:29:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think the anoraks just add that special touch.

I bet the Geordie Morriswomen don't wear anoraks - just us soft southerners.

Lovely video - made me quite homesick.




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moon23
Calaspia



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Posted - 15/05/2008 :  14:13:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Borninhove

I think the anoraks just add that special touch.

I bet the Geordie Morriswomen don't wear anoraks - just us soft southerners.

Lovely video - made me quite homesick.







It was in Yorkshire, and it was bloody cold on top of that windy hill.
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
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Posted - 15/05/2008 :  14:43:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by moon23

quote:
Originally posted by Borninhove

Excellent morrising, but next time MOVE THE BOLLARD! I kept waiting for one of you to stumble over it. It was most worrying.




It's a health & safety requirment to put it down. Part of a new EU regulation.



Bollocks to €urope
Bleedin' Gravy Train.
FACT.
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moon23
Calaspia



841 Posts

Posted - 15/05/2008 :  15:53:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Arf! It was just a jest LTNS.
But agree
Bleedin' Gravy Train
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
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Posted - 15/05/2008 :  16:02:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know,
but this ever long
Gravy Train is wrecking England.
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moon23
Calaspia



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Posted - 15/05/2008 :  16:35:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

I know,
but this ever long
Gravy Train is wrecking England.



Yep MEP's don't show us all their dodgy expenses.
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Daveb
Earthsea



2371 Posts

Posted - 15/06/2008 :  13:13:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you!
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Borninhove
Discworld



1033 Posts

Posted - 15/06/2008 :  13:31:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bless his little cotton socks! He's got a new hobby since the banning.

FACT

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