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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 13/05/2008 : 14:04:30
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http://www.theargus.co.uk/display.var.2266825.0.brighton_squatters_defy_raid_by_bailiffs.php
Officers and bailiffs wanted to remove
25 people living in the former
Methodist Church in London Road, Brighton.
But the squatters, who moved into
the building on April 11,
barred the doors to
prevent officers gaining entry.
Last night the squatters,
who call themselves the
88 London Road Community,
said they intend to stay in the old church.
Posted by: Mark, Hove on 1:44pm today
Use tasers on these scumb bags.
They lower the tone of B&H.
Life In The City.
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Edited by - long time no see on 13/05/2008 14:09:07 |
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moon23
Calaspia
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Posted - 13/05/2008 : 14:29:37
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| People need space and places to live. There are thouhands of empty buildings accross the country that could be put to good use. They shouldn't be making noise late at night though, that's selfish. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/05/2008 : 19:00:35
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
Posted by: Mark, Hove on 1:44pm today
Use tasers on these scumb bags.
They lower the tone of B&H.
Life In The City.
I would have thought that what lowers the tone of B&H is the semi-literate ramblings of trigger happy scumbag who are happy to proclaim others as scumbags even when they do not know how to spell it ... Oh and those who think it clever to promote that semi-literate trigger happy view by posting it on other forums.
Have you asked Mark, Hove for permission LTNS? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6158 Posts |
Posted - 13/05/2008 : 19:59:46
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| Oh ... by the way LTNS just out of interest, how do you know the squatters are smelly? Have you been in there and sniffed each and everyone of them or are you just trotting out your favourite trite prejudices again? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
1342 Posts |
Posted - 13/05/2008 : 21:10:10
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| With a certain baker prominent on the London Road, Brighton, shouldn't the word in question be crumbag? |
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Daveb
Earthsea
2442 Posts |
Posted - 13/05/2008 : 21:20:52
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| Having read ost of the comments from the Argus I would just say that if I lived nearby I would be a NIMBY in this case. I disapprove of of those that claim all these rights and then disregard the rights and property of others. Especially if the others are law abiding tax payers. |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6158 Posts |
Posted - 13/05/2008 : 21:29:42
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| Being a NIMBY is one thing Daveb ... tasering the blighters is another. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Tombstone Blues
Earthsea
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Posted - 13/05/2008 : 22:38:20
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quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder
LTNS . . .are you just trotting out your favourite trite prejudices again?
Does he ever do anything else? |
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thedelboy
Discworld
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/05/2008 : 23:39:53
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| "Fork an ELL " I am" aghast" that a fellow poster can say such a thing "LT" you poor fellow have you been in the sun too long? or cor blimey mate are you just being an ARSE??? |
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thedelboy
Discworld
United Kingdom
1454 Posts |
Posted - 13/05/2008 : 23:40:55
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BY the way one is the perfect vision of sobriety    |
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thedelboy
Discworld
United Kingdom
1454 Posts |
Posted - 13/05/2008 : 23:42:13
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| now even I could not do them fingy ma jigs if Id ad a pint or three could I "Mimsy"?? |
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Borninhove
Discworld
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Posted - 14/05/2008 : 04:54:02
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| So let's see. The majority of people in town either pay high mortgage payments, expensive rent, own a property or are given council housing. These 25 decided not to do what most people do and occupied someone else's building without paying for it. Now, Methodists are not renown for being violent, so they are probably safe from a visit from several large gentlemen armed with crowbars and knuckle-dusters, as they would be had they squatted in other properties. However, the point remains - they want something for nothing. |
 Valhalla, I am coming! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 14/05/2008 : 07:27:33
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Originally posted by Borninhove
So let's see. The majority of people in town either pay high mortgage payments, expensive rent, own a property or are given council housing. These 25 decided not to do what most people do and occupied someone else's building without paying for it. Now, Methodists are not renown for being violent, so they are probably safe from a visit from several large gentlemen armed with crowbars and knuckle-dusters, as they would be had they squatted in other properties. However, the point remains - they want something for nothing.
Bang On Right.
Life In The City. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/05/2008 : 07:55:22
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Originally posted by long time no see
Bang On Right.
Life In The City.
And as usual LTNS ignores those issues he feels uncomfortable with. Like the accusation of stealing someone else's post and the question of whether he has personally sniffed each and everyone of the squatters to ascertain that they are indeed SMELLY as he has claimed them to be. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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moon23
Calaspia
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Posted - 14/05/2008 : 10:38:53
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Originally posted by Borninhove
So let's see. The majority of people in town either pay high mortgage payments, expensive rent, own a property or are given council housing. These 25 decided not to do what most people do and occupied someone else's building without paying for it. Now, Methodists are not renown for being violent, so they are probably safe from a visit from several large gentlemen armed with crowbars and knuckle-dusters, as they would be had they squatted in other properties. However, the point remains - they want something for nothing.
They tend to disagree with the private ownership of capital. When you look at some of Brighton's dodgy land lords and the fat cat bankers getting rich of people's mortgages and £50 Bill government handouts you can kind of see their point.
If there are homeless people and houses going empty then they are being put to good use. What use is an empty church? Far better it is used to house and help people. That is what god would want I think. |
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thedelboy
Discworld
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/05/2008 : 10:41:28
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As a "Back sliden " Catholic I always had the impression that the "Church" whichever denomination was there for the needy!! Perhaps I am wrong |
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Borninhove
Discworld
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Posted - 14/05/2008 : 10:47:00
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| Well, 'disagreeing with the private ownership of capital' just sounds like an excuse for "I'm too lazy to get a job like everyone else so I'm just going to mooch off the saps who DO work for a living and pretend I'm doing something socially progressive". Parasites. |
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thedelboy
Discworld
United Kingdom
1454 Posts |
Posted - 14/05/2008 : 10:48:34
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| OR "Care in the community" gone wrong |
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Daveb
Earthsea
2442 Posts |
Posted - 14/05/2008 : 11:17:59
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I can understand that you can be in a homeless, out of work situation through no choice of your own and these are what I would call needy people.
Those that through their own choice decide to live an alternative lifestyle then they should fund it themselves and not expect tax payers to give them handouts.
Yes, there are plenty of empty homes and buildings that the needy could used but they should be controlled by a charity not broken into by scrougers. |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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moon23
Calaspia
841 Posts |
Posted - 14/05/2008 : 11:22:19
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Originally posted by Daveb
I can understand that you can be in a homeless, out of work situation through no choice of your own and these are what I would call needy people.
Those that through their own choice decide to live an alternative lifestyle then they should fund it themselves and not expect tax payers to give them handouts.
Yes, there are plenty of empty homes and buildings that the needy could used but they should be controlled by a charity not broken into by scrougers.
If a house is broken into then that's illegal. However if you can gain entry without breaking an entry then it's perfectly legal to squat the house. If you live there for 10 years then you can even then claim ownership that does happen sometimes.
There is nothing illegal per se about squatting.
I agree that people who live alternative life styles should fund themselves. I get annoyed by the self-proclaimed anarchists who live in a collective house up off beaconsfield villas. The whole house is funded by the dole.
On the other hand I have a lot of respect for people who try to be self-sustaining and don't take from the state. |
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Daveb
Earthsea
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Posted - 14/05/2008 : 11:30:05
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The squatting law is something that rather tees me off.
If you enter a property that is not your whethter it is locked or not (usually a very debatable point) then you are trespassing and should not be there. |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 14/05/2008 : 11:51:06
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quote:
Originally posted by Daveb
The squatting law is something that rather tees me off.
If you enter a property that is not your whethter it is locked or not (usually a very debatable point) then you are trespassing and should not be there.
Bang On Right. |
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Borninhove
Discworld
1033 Posts |
Posted - 14/05/2008 : 11:57:25
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| In many parts of the states a homeowner would be completely within their rights to shoot a squatter. I guess that's why it's not such a problem there. |
Valhalla, I am coming! |
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moon23
Calaspia
841 Posts |
Posted - 14/05/2008 : 12:01:33
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quote:
Originally posted by Daveb
The squatting law is something that rather tees me off.
If you enter a property that is not your whethter it is locked or not (usually a very debatable point) then you are trespassing and should not be there.
Squatting is a civil offense not a criminal act.
It is only trespass if you force an entry, you misunderstand the term trespass as it is understood in law. The right to pass through land is not just as simple as saying if you don't own it you have no right to pass on it.
Much land used to be common land before the enclousers act. The concept of ownership is a construct of the state. Orginally much land was stolen by force by the people who used to live on it.
You can legally put up a 'section 6' legal notice saying your are occupying the property and the owner has to prove in court that they have a right to live in the property and the squatter does not.
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moon23
Calaspia
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Posted - 14/05/2008 : 12:02:10
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Originally posted by Borninhove
In many parts of the states a homeowner would be completely within their rights to shoot a squatter. I guess that's why it's not such a problem there.
No they have a problem with people getting shot instead. |
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thedelboy
Discworld
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/05/2008 : 20:46:42
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| If you are a squatter you should find out how much the local average it is to rent a property that you are squatting in!!Then put monies aside to cover said rent(some owners would rather someone lived in thier property than leave it empty)that way at least you would be showing willing to be a civilised human being |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6158 Posts |
Posted - 14/05/2008 : 20:50:22
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| So what's the going rate for a vacant church then? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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thedelboy
Discworld
United Kingdom
1454 Posts |
Posted - 14/05/2008 : 20:59:40
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| ?Couple of "Hail Marys" |
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Smelly Squatters barricaded themselves old church