| Author |
Topic |
|
Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6158 Posts |
|
|
long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2008 : 08:47:38
|
Typical New Labour
idea,
that could never work. |
 |
|
|
Borninhove
Discworld
1033 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2008 : 10:32:47
|
Maybe someone in the government has been reading this ... |
 Valhalla, I am coming! |
|
|
|
rudeboy
Alagaësía
United Kingdom
14 Posts |
 Posted - 20/05/2008 : 10:34:36
|
| Perhaps that would halt ltns in his rants against government bodies,I am not sure about others but his constant rants on New Labour and unelected Brown get on my goat |
my word is my bond |
|
|
|
Daveb
Earthsea
2442 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2008 : 10:39:24
|
He has quite a herd!
 |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
|
|
|
rudeboy
Alagaësía
United Kingdom
14 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2008 : 10:50:20
|
| LOL |
my word is my bond |
|
|
|
Borninhove
Discworld
1033 Posts |
|
|
Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6158 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2008 : 11:06:05
|
 |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
|
|
|
moon23
Calaspia
841 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2008 : 12:13:45
|
Government does not have the right to spy on all it's citizens. The state is currently a far bigger threat then terrorism. Countless examples have shown that once you put these systems in place the authorities increasingly want to access them for a wider range of crimes.
This is why under new labor we have had council officials using anti-terror legislation to mount surveillance operation against parents to ensure they are in the right catchments areas.
A colleague at work was photographed putting out rubbish on the wrong day!
There are over 1,000 request to place people under surveillance everyday.
It's time for us to kick up a fuss and start fighting for our civil liberties before it's too late.
|
|
|
|
moon23
Calaspia
841 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2008 : 12:19:44
|
Under the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 you won't even need a warrant to access this data.
Former Stasi officers are sick with envy. |
|
|
|
moon23
Calaspia
841 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2008 : 12:22:46
|
quote:
Originally posted by Borninhove
Maybe someone in the government has been reading this ...
There was a great moment on question time about a month ago when David Davies said to Ed Balls: Have your read 1984? You do realize it was meant to be a warning not a blue print"
:)
Crypto-facist new labour stasi special |
|
|
|
Borninhove
Discworld
1033 Posts |
|
|
Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6158 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2008 : 13:11:43
|
| But it won't ... |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
|
|
|
moon23
Calaspia
841 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2008 : 13:20:19
|
quote:
Originally posted by Borninhove
If it can stop this happening again ...
If stopping the Government's Big Brother system can stop this happening again...
 |
|
|
|
FUBAR
Barsoom
431 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2008 : 13:25:24
|
| Who is going to read all this rubbish, LTNS in his bunker?? 3 billion messages a day........ |
I came into the world with nothing and still have most of it left.. |
|
|
|
Daveb
Earthsea
2442 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2008 : 13:29:44
|
'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing'
Edmund Burke
Iran, among others, claim the Holocaust to be 'a myth,' it is imperative to make sure the world never forgets.
|
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
|
|
|
long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2008 : 13:40:20
|
quote:
Originally posted by FUBAR
Who is going to read all this rubbish, LTNS in his bunker?? 3 billion messages a day........
It is checked by Auto Computers
that find some key words out first
then by Human checkers.
But under Dithering Un Elected Scottish Brown
nothing works well. |
|
|
|
Borninhove
Discworld
1033 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2008 : 13:55:47
|
Key words, eh?
Dithering ... Corrupt ... Evil ... $tinking
"Take 'im away, constable!" |
Valhalla, I am coming! |
Edited by - Borninhove on 20/05/2008 13:56:37 |
|
|
|
long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2008 : 14:05:42
|
Yes
Key Words that MI5
have detected in current use.
But Data and New Labour
are Doomed.
Fact. |
|
|
|
long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2008 : 14:12:53
|
Atta and the Saudi Team
that hit the Twin Towers
used codes.
But also Attwa took flying lessons
in Florida - but only wanted to learn flying straight
not landings etc.
So my point is you can collect data
but you still miss it
like it was a Woman FBI worker
with that Florida data
before the attack.
While you collect all the Data,
the Attack is going down
at the same time.
Even London Police say they expect another attack
because we are stuck in the co-illegal invasion of Iraq. |
Edited by - long time no see on 20/05/2008 14:49:32 |
|
|
|
Borninhove
Discworld
1033 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2008 : 14:25:10
|
Atta, not Attwa
Evil homicidal maniacs deserve proper spelling
FACT |
Valhalla, I am coming! |
|
|
|
long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2008 : 15:17:24
|
A ‘nuclear 9/11’ is a rapidly growing threat.
All the Data can not stop that.
Life In The Fast Lane. |
|
|
|
moon23
Calaspia
841 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2008 : 16:10:19
|
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
A ‘nuclear 9/11’ is a rapidly growing threat.
All the Data can not stop that.
Life In The Fast Lane.
It is Fast, but exciting. |
|
|
|
Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
1342 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2008 : 17:44:07
|
| Every time MI5 sees the word pasty there will a security alert. |
|
|
|
long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2008 : 17:59:58
|
quote:
Originally posted by Infinite Poppadum
Every time MI5 sees the word pasty there will a security alert.
They have under contract many thousands
doing checks.
But the Terror Gangs
keep changing their codes
so it is Infinite.
FACT. |
Edited by - long time no see on 20/05/2008 18:00:34 |
|
|
|
Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6158 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2008 : 18:01:20
|
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
quote:
Originally posted by Infinite Poppadum
Every time MI5 sees the word pasty there will a security alert.
They have under contract many thousands
doing checks.
But the Terror Gangs
keep changing their codes
so it is Infinite.
FACT.
Really LTNS? Have you seen the register of employees then? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
|
|
|
long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2008 : 18:04:36
|
It was reported on the Show YOU watch
Newsnight, some time ago. |
Edited by - long time no see on 20/05/2008 18:04:57 |
|
|
|
No Expert
Barsoom
450 Posts |
Posted - 21/05/2008 : 00:53:16
|
I think it's shocking. Say you're an office manager, with a penchant for cheap pcs and pasties, and in your spare time you watch, say, tramp porn on your pc. Now the government can monitor that?
Shocking. |
|
|
|
camelot
Barsoom
USA
380 Posts |
Posted - 21/05/2008 : 05:06:41
|
quote:
Originally posted by No Expert
I think it's shocking. Say you're an office manager, with a penchant for cheap pcs and pasties, and in your spare time you watch, say, tramp porn on your pc. Now the government can monitor that?
Shocking.
How else would they find the good sites??
Every time I read about "Big Brother" computer spying I think of the countless first hand reports I have received from contractors and company reps about government's complete lack of savvy about computers and communications. The USA's NSA and your MI(X) may be an exception, but I feel confident that the NSA will not turn an (extremely expensive) eye on you for blasting Tesco or Wal-Mart; nor for watching badly pixilated babes or beefcake on your home PC.
It IS always good to fear governmental control however, because people in government have an alarming history of always seeking an edge…
|
|
|
|
Borninhove
Discworld
1033 Posts |
Posted - 21/05/2008 : 05:34:01
|
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
A ‘nuclear 9/11’ is a rapidly growing threat.
All the Data can not stop that.
Life In The Fast Lane.
Why not? Why are you so certain that having access to data cannot prevent terrorist attacks? OK, we have had 9/11, 7/7, Madrid, Bali etc., but think of the number of plots that have been foiled just in the UK alone. And how have the authorities managed to thwart them? By using every means possible, including data and communications surveillance. All this nonsense about "Big Brother" and "Nazis" seems to be forgetting one vital point - We are the good guys. When I say "we" I mean Western society. |
Valhalla, I am coming! |
|
|
|
No Expert
Barsoom
450 Posts |
Posted - 21/05/2008 : 06:04:18
|
| BiH, don't you worry that you're being monitored out there in Saudi? |
|
|
|
Topic |
|
Utterly ridiculous!