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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 27/04/2007 : 14:37:38
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Originally posted by moon23
It does beg the question about fumes from cars.
These things are never logically consitent though.
I agree that air fresherners should be banned as I have an ashmatic friend who nearly died after someone decided to employ the 'lynx effect' on a bus.
It is far worse in London.
This Thread is about the Smoking Ban
that comes in,
in a few weeks or so. |
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Easy 10
Alagaësía
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Posted - 27/04/2007 : 14:59:21
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Thanks for clearing that up LTNS.
I thought it was about the new cheese laws being introduced in Verona. |
"But you accept that there is an increased risk of vehicle/bat collision" |
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moon23
Calaspia
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Posted - 27/04/2007 : 18:05:03
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Originally posted by long time no see
quote:
Originally posted by moon23
It does beg the question about fumes from cars.
These things are never logically consitent though.
I agree that air fresherners should be banned as I have an ashmatic friend who nearly died after someone decided to employ the 'lynx effect' on a bus.
It is far worse in London.
This Thread is about the Smoking Ban
that comes in,
in a few weeks or so.
Yes I agree it is worse in London and Worse still in Mexico City.
Things like Air Spray and Car fumes are brought up by the issue of Smoking Ban. If you are going to ban one dangerous thing then why are other dangerous things not also banned?
Still the smoking ban is good as it protects our civil liberites and right to breath without having to breath in second hand smoke. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27/04/2007 : 18:37:34
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Originally posted by moon23
Still the smoking ban is good as it protects our civil liberites and right to breath without having to breath in second hand smoke.
Doesn't protect the civil liberties of those who want to chose their own way of going to hell in a handcart though does it Moon? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6411 Posts |
Posted - 27/04/2007 : 18:39:18
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Originally posted by Easy 10
She was on Question TIme last night.
She talked complete nonsense of course. But I didn't care, I found I was just lost in her eyes. She is indeed an absolute HONEY, I'm quite smitten.
*sigh*
Indeed she is Corrupt New Labour.
BBC London Local news just showed how many groups claimed
New Labour funding to stop people smoking.
But some public people were tricked
and their names were used to get the numbers up.
Flint New Labour MP
refused to give a interview,
that is because it is all her mess.
FACT.
Vote Corrupt New Labour Out.
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Daveb
Discworld
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Posted - 27/04/2007 : 19:43:38
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Originally posted by Miriam Binder
quote:
Originally posted by moon23
Still the smoking ban is good as it protects our civil liberites and right to breath without having to breath in second hand smoke.
Doesn't protect the civil liberties of those who want to chose their own way of going to hell in a handcart though does it Moon?
Maybe Mr Glass can organise a protest about these civil liberties issue? Trouble is which side of the fence could he protest for.
Maybe both as he likes protests so much.
Either way it should keep him off the grass! |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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Easy 10
Alagaësía
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Posted - 27/04/2007 : 20:06:53
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
quote:
Originally posted by Easy 10
She was on Question TIme last night.
She talked complete nonsense of course. But I didn't care, I found I was just lost in her eyes. She is indeed an absolute HONEY, I'm quite smitten.
*sigh*
Indeed she is Corrupt New Labour.
BBC London Local news just showed how many groups claimed
New Labour funding to stop people smoking.
But some public people were tricked
and their names were used to get the numbers up.
Flint New Labour MP
refused to give a interview,
that is because it is all her mess.
FACT.
Vote Corrupt New Labour Out.
I don't care.
I'd still like to poke her. |
"But you accept that there is an increased risk of vehicle/bat collision" |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6411 Posts |
Posted - 27/04/2007 : 20:10:07
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Originally posted by Easy 10
I don't care.
I'd still like to poke her.
When she is Kicked Out of her Job.
Go For It , then. |
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FUBAR
Barsoom
391 Posts |
Posted - 28/04/2007 : 15:04:39
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If the government was serious about smoking they would have made ciggies illegal, but as smokers pay 10 billion into tax every year guess what. Why not legalise drugs and tax them as well?........ |
I came into the world with nothing and still have most of it left.. |
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Tombstone Blues
Discworld
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6411 Posts |
Posted - 28/04/2007 : 16:57:13
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They can try all they want.
The best one is the bloke who made his home into a pub
with free drinks and smoking permitted.
Smoking Ban
is Essential for the sake of all the kids
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Posted - 29/04/2007 : 12:34:20
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| I totally agree with you LTNS. It's time for the smokers recognize their selfish behaviour. I always avoid as much as I can all the enclosed public places where people smoke, and this ban will give a better chance for the ones who want to give up; being away from the temptation from smoking atmospheres and not having to stop visiting the pubs altogether like I did have to. |
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jaypee
Alagaësía
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Posted - 29/04/2007 : 14:42:22
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| Bit new to this, but if I may offer a comment, I gave up smoking some thirty years ago, and looking back I wonder how I ever started. I think it was behind the lavatories in the school grounds with some other boys. It was a big thing in those days, "Craven 'A' for your throats sake", de Reske Minors "Mine's a Minor the ten minute smoke for intelligent folk", "Players Please", there were so many slogans, and if you didn't light up, you were thought a bit odd. But I do remember when I did stop, without any problems I might add, food had a completely different taste altogether and became much more enjoyable. |
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jaypee
Alagaësía
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Posted - 29/04/2007 : 14:43:20
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| Bit new to this, but if I may offer a comment, I gave up smoking some thirty years ago, and looking back I wonder how I ever started. I think it was behind the lavatories in the school grounds with some other boys. It was a big thing in those days, "Craven 'A' for your throats sake", de Reske Minors "Mine's a Minor the ten minute smoke for intelligent folk", "Players Please", there were so many slogans, and if you didn't light up, you were thought a bit odd. But I do remember when I did stop, without any problems I might add, food had a completely different taste altogether and became much more enjoyable. |
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Posted - 29/04/2007 : 15:53:23
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| Me too I am ex-smoker. I remember that I start smoking for hanging out with people that smoke, I was so sure that I wasn't going to smoke that when I started it went on for more than 10 years; peer pressure as they call it, rebelling against the adults and the not inmediatly negative health effect was the other reason. Take me three tries to give up, I am now convinced that this addiction weakens the willpower and as I mention above ( the selfish actitude of smokers) this addiction keeps smokers careless and less sensitive toward the needs of others, and weakens the willpower that why is so difficult to give it up. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5294 Posts |
Posted - 29/04/2007 : 16:09:34
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| As expected the generalisations abound in this polarising thread. For/against and nothing in between ... oh tolerant humanitarianism wherefore art thou |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6411 Posts |
Posted - 29/04/2007 : 16:47:56
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Smokers can Stink their very own House out,
so long as kids are not in the house.
This Ban is Worldwide
Smoking will soon be gone
that is Common Sense. |
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Dingo
Barsoom
United Kingdom
258 Posts |
Posted - 29/04/2007 : 16:52:19
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| I am an ex smoker, which as an introduction sounds a bit like A Anon. I think that the ban as it stands has gone much too far. It is indicative of the level of interference that the Govt has in our lives now days. I'm for choice as much as possible. I try not to voice it but now I really dislike the smell of smoke. Just in case anyone has me marked down as a wannabe restarter. |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6411 Posts |
Posted - 29/04/2007 : 16:56:22
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Originally posted by Dingo
I am an ex smoker, which as an introduction sounds a bit like A Anon. I think that the ban as it stands has gone much too far. It is indicative of the level of interference that the Govt has in our lives now days. I'm for choice as much as possible. I try not to voice it but now I really dislike the smell of smoke. Just in case anyone has me marked down as a wannabe restarter.
Rubbish the Ban ain't in yet.
Cafe Nero Workers will be able to breath.
This Smoking Ban is Common Sense.
If you buy a Second hand CD
you soon know if it was a pathetic Rotten Smoker,
it's cover & all of the CD and Case - Stink. |
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Tombstone Blues
Discworld
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Posted - 29/04/2007 : 17:30:30
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| To tell you the truth the first time I hear about the ban was in this forums and I nearly forgot that I was an heavy smoker myself. With addiction you cannot stay in the middle ground or/and given the addicts plenty of excuses to continue with their addiction. We grown up ourself in smoky places and this ban it has to be the way forward for a proper example for our children and if we want to reduce the smoking habit in the future. |
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Tombstone Blues
Discworld
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Posted - 29/04/2007 : 17:39:54
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I'm looking forward to the day we ban driving. I don't drive, why should I breathe in others second hand exhaust fumes when I walk down the road?
Oh, and I'm convinced that reality TV shows are bad for people's mental health so let's ban them.
And of course, it's only a matter of time before we ban drinking in pubs.
What a wonderful world it'll be when no-one does ANYTHING that could be remotely harmful to themselves or others - a world run by health and safety legislation.
Then we will all die of boredom. |
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Dingo
Barsoom
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29/04/2007 : 17:47:01
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| I don't tend to sniff secondhand CDs ?????????? |
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The Duke of Uranus
Barsoom
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Posted - 29/04/2007 : 18:01:50
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I'm looking forward to the day we ban driving. I don't drive, why should I breathe in others second hand exhaust fumes when I walk down the road?
Oh, and I'm convinced that reality TV shows are bad for people's mental health so let's ban them.
And of course, it's only a matter of time before we ban drinking in pubs.
What a wonderful world it'll be when no-one does ANYTHING that could be remotely harmful to themselves or others - a world run by health and safety legislation.
Then we will all die of boredom.
*applause*
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Posted - 29/04/2007 : 18:06:49
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| Tblues that sounds to me like a lot of excuses to face the real problem and this ban is going to protect some vulnerable people, children and elderly. Cars are completly different problem and I agree on reducing driving and use as much as we can the alternatives, yes I want to be able to walk to town without having to breath the pollution of others. And I believe in this utopic world where it can be taking decision without hurting others and where everybody benefits at the end. |
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FUBAR
Barsoom
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Posted - 29/04/2007 : 18:25:17
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Tblues that sounds to me like a lot of excuses to face the real problem and this ban is going to protect some vulnerable people, children and elderly.
Yes, many is the times I've been in a pub only to be jostled out of the way by a gaggle of children and elderly making their way through the fog of smoke to the toilet. If they want a ban then ban smoking totally, no dithering about just lose the tax revenue and all the jobs. MAKE SMOKING ILLEGAL..... |
I came into the world with nothing and still have most of it left.. |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6411 Posts |
Posted - 29/04/2007 : 18:36:56
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It will be Illegal soon.
Smoking is on the way out. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5294 Posts |
Posted - 29/04/2007 : 18:39:03
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| Lip service is the game Fubar, these are after all politicians we are talking about. They will pay lip service but keep an eye the incoming revenue. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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FUBAR
Barsoom
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Posted - 29/04/2007 : 18:52:57
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This smoking ban is just like the 4x4 higher tax-- rubbish. Because they think they can get away with it and make some political points is the only reason it's being done. Drugs are less restricted than smoking will be, it is namby-pamby for your own good legislation. It should have been left to the restaurant or pubs if they wanted to have smoking or not, On Southern railway after July 1 you won't even be able to smoke on any platforms--and they are outside......... |
I came into the world with nothing and still have most of it left.. |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6411 Posts |
Posted - 29/04/2007 : 19:05:36
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No you are very wrong
it will help many Non smoking workers
and the young. |
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