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Posted - 20/05/2007 :  15:02:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes Miriam, same for the food companies should be accountable as well, because they are adultarating our food with product that are not, and this is very dangerous, and same for our government to give permision to add flouride to our water. What about the responsability of this companies to the consumer.

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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5294 Posts

Posted - 20/05/2007 :  15:23:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Are you being forced to eat adulterated food? Can you not decide, hey guess what peeps, I am going to cook my own food from scratch rather then all these additive laden, sugar and salt containing preservative carrying convenience foods. Oh, and another thought ... instead of a packet of crisps, how about a nice apple or a carrot in my lunch box.

If people didn't buy the products they would not carry on manufacturing them for long.

I reiterate ... What has happened to personal accountability and individual responsibility?

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Posted - 20/05/2007 :  15:44:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And add yourself a glass of tap water while you can, in future you may only have the choice to buy mineral water. Miriam you are fortunate to have that choice, but many people don't, everybody have different lifestyle. If any person will die of poisoning for consuming a contaminated product they will be suing the company responsible. Companies should very carefully what are putting into our food. And food and water should be better regulated by the government.
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The Duke of Uranus
Barsoom



293 Posts

Posted - 20/05/2007 :  15:44:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
I reiterate ... What has happened to personal accountability and individual responsibility?


Hell who wants personal accountability when you can blame someone else for your problems and get a fat cheque for it
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5294 Posts

Posted - 20/05/2007 :  15:56:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by quest

And add yourself a glass of tap water while you can, in future you may only have the choice to buy mineral water. Miriam you are fortunate to have that choice, but many people don't, everybody have different lifestyle. If any person will die of poisoning for consuming a contaminated product they will be suing the company responsible. Companies should very carefully what are putting into our food. And food and water should be better regulated by the government.

What a patronising tone ...

Oh well, it is clear who sees themselves as a mature and responsible adult and who wants to remain a sheltered violet. I personally prefer to makes my choices and face the consequences. This is my life, I live it my way and I take full credit for my successes and accept full responsibility for my failures. But then, I am an adult.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Posted - 20/05/2007 :  16:20:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Miriam, you start first the patrionasing tone.

And as a responsable adult I want the companies that we so depend on share that resposibility as well; a fair balance.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
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Posted - 20/05/2007 :  16:42:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tell me quest, who decides what you put in your shopping trolley? Who determines what food you prepare in your kitchen and who organises your day? Do you really have so little control over what happens or is it that you have determined your own priorities?

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Posted - 20/05/2007 :  17:32:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wasn't talking about me personally. Most people have limited choices; for reason of work, limited time and income. We all know what foods are the best.

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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
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Posted - 20/05/2007 :  17:42:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, neither was I ... however I know what the meaning of choices is and I also know what the meaning of taking responsibility for your own decision are. And it certainly is not choosing a microwave meal and then suing the manufacturer for putting preservatives in it.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Posted - 20/05/2007 :  19:44:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Companies that harm people should be responsible as well.

Our choices are getting narrower and narrower everyday.
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Daveb
Discworld



1884 Posts

Posted - 20/05/2007 :  19:57:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
New Warning Notices on goods.

Car - Driving can kill.
Alcohol - Drinking can kill.
Chocolate - May make you fat and lead to death.
Porridge - Do not bathe in porridge you may drown.
Baked Beans - Do not eat beans and stand next to naked flames!

I think we should ban these for a start.


We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you!
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moon23
Calaspia



688 Posts

Posted - 21/05/2007 :  11:22:29  Show Profile  Visit moon23's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder

Tell me quest, who decides what you put in your shopping trolley? Who determines what food you prepare in your kitchen and who organises your day? Do you really have so little control over what happens or is it that you have determined your own priorities?



advertising agencies.


http://www.moon23.wordpress.com

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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6411 Posts

Posted - 21/05/2007 :  11:38:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by quest

Companies that harm people should be responsible as well.

Our choices are getting narrower and narrower everyday.




That is why the Smoking Ban is here soon.
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flaming pie
Alagaësía



89 Posts

Posted - 21/05/2007 :  12:29:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Daveb

New Warning Notices on goods.

Car - Driving can kill.
Alcohol - Drinking can kill.
Chocolate - May make you fat and lead to death.
Porridge - Do not bathe in porridge you may drown.
Baked Beans - Do not eat beans and stand next to naked flames!

I think we should ban these for a start.





I think you are more likely to suffocate than to drown if you immerse yourself in porridge.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5294 Posts

Posted - 21/05/2007 :  12:46:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by moon23

advertising agencies.

And they stand over you with a whip and other death threatening devices forcing you to buy stuff against your will do they?

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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The Duke of Uranus
Barsoom



293 Posts

Posted - 21/05/2007 :  12:52:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder

quote:
Originally posted by moon23

advertising agencies.

And they stand over you with a whip and other death threatening devices forcing you to buy stuff against your will do they?



Not moon himself. But what you need to understand is everyone else on the planet is of subnormal inteligence and lower mental capacity than moon. Every time they hear a quick slap on a back pocket with a jingling of change they shuffle, zombie style, down to asdawalmartgeorgezippybungle to await further instructions on what to buy. These will then be passed on via subliminal messages on thye shop tannoy.

We should all think ourselves very lucky to have someone like moon looking out for us.
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moon23
Calaspia



688 Posts

Posted - 21/05/2007 :  15:07:52  Show Profile  Visit moon23's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder

quote:
Originally posted by moon23

advertising agencies.

And they stand over you with a whip and other death threatening devices forcing you to buy stuff against your will do they?



No Mim methods of control have failed when there is a need to resort to physical violence.

Food industry and tobacco industry influences people's decision making processes with their flashy adverts and celebrity endorsement.

FACT.


http://www.moon23.wordpress.com

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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5294 Posts

Posted - 21/05/2007 :  17:21:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Seem you are right Duke, the average consumer is apparently of subnormal intelligence, has low mental capacity and is utterly incapable of acting independently.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6411 Posts

Posted - 21/05/2007 :  18:10:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Duke of Uranus



Not moon himself. But what you need to understand is everyone else on the planet is of subnormal inteligence and lower mental capacity





That is Silly Viewpoint
from You Duke.



Roll on the Smoking Ban.
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Daveb
Discworld



1884 Posts

Posted - 21/05/2007 :  19:30:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I welcome being able to go into non-smoking environments.
There should however be pubs etc that choose to opt out by licence and cater for smokers.
By the way, I do not smoke.

We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you!
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The Duke of Uranus
Barsoom



293 Posts

Posted - 21/05/2007 :  19:37:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
That is Silly Viewpoint
from You Duke.


Need some new batteries for the sarcasm detector?
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6411 Posts

Posted - 21/05/2007 :  19:37:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Private Clubs
will be the Only ones.

It has gone too far - so many Pubs Stink of Smokers, it gets in your hair & clothes.
this is a Health move.

And Cafe's that allow smokers are Very Wrong.
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Daveb
Discworld



1884 Posts

Posted - 21/05/2007 :  19:40:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
People will however have a choice.
Let them all smoke together and inflict passive smoking on each other.

We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you!
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6411 Posts

Posted - 21/05/2007 :  19:52:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What a short protest,
fill the Jails up.
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Daveb
Discworld



1884 Posts

Posted - 21/05/2007 :  20:14:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Protest

The jails are full anyway.
Something to do with pathetic New Labour!

We're all doomed!
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6411 Posts

Posted - 21/05/2007 :  20:16:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Daveb

Protest

The jails are full anyway.
Something to do with pathetic New Labour!




Yes the Jails are,
so they will set up Extra Cabins at Police Stations.
If they have to.

The Pubs will get shut down if they allow smokers.

Roll the Dice.
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Daveb
Discworld



1884 Posts

Posted - 21/05/2007 :  20:21:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The value of snout will go through the roof!
Will these be smoking or non-smoking cabins?
I was not sure they had casinos either.

We're all doomed!
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6411 Posts

Posted - 21/05/2007 :  20:48:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Smoking Porta Cabins.
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Tombstone Blues
Discworld



1934 Posts

Posted - 21/05/2007 :  20:57:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

The Pubs will get shut down if they allow smokers.





Some of them will shut down anyway because of the lost trade.

But the health fascists don't care about that, they're a bunch of miserable bastards . . .
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6411 Posts

Posted - 21/05/2007 :  21:01:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tombstone Blues

quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

The Pubs will get shut down if they allow smokers.





Some of them will shut down anyway because of the lost trade.







Time will tell, on that.
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