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Hambag
Barsoom



139 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2007 :  14:51:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

America is in total control.


Of what?

You? The United Kingdom and Australia? The World? The Universe?

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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6268 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2007 :  14:51:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
IRAQ.
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Hambag
Barsoom



139 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2007 :  14:53:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When you say America, what do you mean? What aspect?
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Hambag
Barsoom



139 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2007 :  14:55:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
America is in total control of Iraq? If they were then I'm sure they would have packed their bags long ago. I thought the problem was that they are not in control, hence putting pressure in Iran, and telling Turkey to chill.
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6268 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2007 :  15:00:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Iraq is in a state of war (Since America with Blair Illegally Invaded Iraq)
and America is in Charge.

Turkey has flown into North Iraq to kill
those that killed theur men.
Ameica did not and could not stop them
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Hambag
Barsoom



139 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2007 :  15:08:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'll ask again, what do you mean when you say America? What aspect of America?

Are only countries instigating wars "bad"? What about those that supply arms, the tools of war?

Is Ethiopia pathetic corrupt for invading Somalia? You never mention them.
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6268 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2007 :  15:10:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bush runs America.
So it is 100% Bush and Blair and now Brown.

There is a Ethopia thread - but no one posts on it.
This thread is about Iraq.

Edited by - long time no see on 29/10/2007 15:11:16
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Hambag
Barsoom



139 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2007 :  15:16:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I thought this thread was about your opinions on America's "mess", the political situation in Iraq.

Considering you instigated the topic, I think it is only fair to ask for a context of what that "mess" is and for it compares to other global situations for it to have any true meaning, unless that is you wish to post topics without meaning, in which case I'll understand that it is one of those things you just like to do, talking nonsense.
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6268 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2007 :  15:26:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is all about Americas Mess In Iraq.
FACT.
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6268 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2007 :  15:29:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


pathetic Americans
need to get out of Iraq.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article2758829.ece
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5222 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2007 :  15:31:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And of course no one else anywhere at any time has done anything comparable to the EVIL of Bush and his invasion of Iraq which would never have happened had he not the backing of Blair and Howard and a couple of others but that is a fact conveniently overlooked by LTNS.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Hambag
Barsoom



139 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2007 :  15:34:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hambag

I thought this thread was about your opinions on America's "mess", the political situation in Iraq.

Considering you instigated the topic, I think it is only fair to ask for a context of what that "mess" is and for it compares to other global situations for it to have any true meaning, unless that is you wish to post topics without meaning, in which case I'll understand that it is one of those things you just like to do, talking nonsense.



quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

It is all about Americas Mess In Iraq.
FACT.



ok... so... it is fair for me to ask for a context of what that "mess" is and for it compares to other global situations.

Care to actually provide that context so that you may have meaning? Or would sir like to not actually be understood?
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6268 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2007 :  15:43:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Read this

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article2758829.ece

It confirms the Utter Mess
America has made in Iraq.
FACT.
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Hambag
Barsoom



139 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2007 :  15:47:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

Read this

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article2758829.ece

It confirms the Utter Mess
America has made in Iraq.
FACT.



I'm well aware of what is going on and the issues. What I am putting to you is that you are morally selective, so much so that you do not acknowledge or care about the misdeeds of other nations.

Do you understand what would happen to Europe without the protection of the USA?
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Hambag
Barsoom



139 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2007 :  15:49:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Are you aware of how global warming will benefit Russia who holds control over our energy supply?
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6268 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2007 :  15:53:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hambag

quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

Read this

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article2758829.ece

It confirms the Utter Mess
America has made in Iraq.
FACT.



I'm well aware of what is going on and the issues.




That is Great.


CASE CLOSED.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5222 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2007 :  15:59:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

That is Great.


CASE CLOSED.

Really? So, if only America would get out of Iraq everything will be perfect and everybody will love everybody else and there will never be anymore wars, and no one will be killed or die of cold or heat or starvation because of war famine and disease and no more want and no more poverty and no more fascist regimes and no more human rights abuses and no more totalitarian regimes and no more 'disappearances' and no more political prisoners and no more 'conscientious objectors' and ... the list goes on and on and on ... and it will be sunshine and roses and tea and cakes for everybody ever after?

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Hambag
Barsoom



139 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2007 :  16:01:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

quote:
Originally posted by Hambag

quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

Read this

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article2758829.ece

It confirms the Utter Mess
America has made in Iraq.
FACT.



I'm well aware of what is going on and the issues.




That is Great.


CASE CLOSED.



Are you a moderator now? I wish people would tell me these things.

So you are morally selective, so much so that you do not acknowledge or care about the misdeeds of other nations. Thank you for clarifying it through your inability to deny it.
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Borninhove
Calaspia



855 Posts

Posted - 30/10/2007 :  06:23:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Will the French get more involved under their new President?



Maybe not.

Valhalla, I am coming!
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camelot
Barsoom



USA
292 Posts

Posted - 30/10/2007 :  22:50:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Meanwhile, back in the mess.

It appears that my elected officials and their lackeys have; created a privitised army, made sure it was under no law, International or US , and are now offering a deal to them when that private army was caught with its guns blazing on civilians and asked to leave by the Iraqi Government. I realize that war has always been a profitable endeavor for the few, but this is just obscene.

US State Dept in furor over reported Blackwater immunity deal

WASHINGTON (AFP) - A top US legislator demanded information Tuesday over reports that the State Department offered immunity to Blackwater employees in the wake of a Baghdad shooting that left 17 civilians dead.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/iraqusunrestsecurityblackwater
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gcrkfrd
Barsoom



USA
366 Posts

Posted - 31/10/2007 :  03:53:20  Show Profile  Send gcrkfrd an AOL message  Send gcrkfrd a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Using our connections,in Continental Army Command,
Army Reserve, and National Guard, we could not
find any listing of Four of the People, either
Living or Dead, in any of the Units, mentioned
in the Newspaper Article.
Maybe they used Aliases.

AMERICAN BY BIRTH, UNION BY CHOICE

Edited by - gcrkfrd on 31/10/2007 03:55:55
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Borninhove
Calaspia



855 Posts

Posted - 31/10/2007 :  03:59:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Meanwhile, the international media continue to bring clarity to the whole mess:

Reuters: 20 decapitated corpes found in Baquba - Shock, horror, quagmire, EVILBushBlairBlackwater, Troops out now, it's all our fault, mea culpa, etc. ad nauseam.

But wait a moment, what's this hidden away several paragraphs down in a BBC story?

Meanwhile, Iraqi police denied earlier reports that 20 headless bodies had been found dumped near Baquba. This is well hidden down a story entitled "Iraqi troops rescue tribal chiefs". Interestingly, when the original story came out the BBC had a big "20 Headless Bodies Found" headline story, yet when it turns out to be untrue it gets buried in another story. That is a very useful tool for the enemy. Stories of horror will always get top-billing while later discovery of their untruth will not. Thus the myth of the "utter mess" is promulgated for those who do not dig further to spread.

Valhalla, I am coming!
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6268 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2007 :  16:57:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1291919,00.html

At last the MOD are forced to admit their guilt to a Mother
who found out her Son Died in Iraq
because the gear he needed for protection was in the store room.


This Illegal Invasion is New Labour's
downfall.

And the Destruction of American Values
by Evil Bush.
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Daveb
Discworld



1862 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2007 :  19:41:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is not the first time and it will not be the last.
UK has always failed the troops with lack of or bad equipment.

The only thing that is top notch and in plentiful supply is Ward Room Gin!

Terrible old fashioned stuck up twats.

We're all doomed!
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5222 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2007 :  21:12:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The concept of ground-troops as cannon fodder has not yet deserted the armed forces and until it does ...

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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nightowl
Barsoom



247 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2007 :  22:54:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Who said "Lions led by Donkeys" ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lions_led_by_donkeys

Edited by - nightowl on 07/11/2007 22:56:15
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6268 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2007 :  09:12:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Borninhove

Will the French get more involved under their new President?



Maybe not.



Meet the new Poodle.

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Borninhove
Calaspia



855 Posts

Posted - 11/11/2007 :  11:17:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh, that wacky Steve Bell. He's such a hoot! Look at that!! He's got George Bush looking like a monkey!! Oh, that's priceless, where does he get such funny ideas from? I wonder why he's got Charles Aznevour kissing the funny Chimpy McBush's foot?


Valhalla, I am coming!
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6268 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2007 :  08:59:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote



Aug-12-2003 Classic Front Page
sums up why the UK New Labour Party (Blair/Brown)
is Corrupt.

And here we are at the end of 2007
it is still a mess
and the never ending American Corrupt Total Control of Iraq,
while Bush the leader of America.
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Hambag
Barsoom



139 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2007 :  10:06:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
LT, you are full of shit. You just go "eugh eugh eugh! look at the bad man, look at the bad man! Isn't he bad!" You fail to offer any solutions, and you fail to acknowledge that the world is full of tyrants who given the chance would redefine global suffering at a scale that would make the current US / UK state of affairs seem like a Care Bear picnic.

Every one knows Iraq is a f*&k up. How are you helping? I'm sure the average Iraqi in the street would be so pleased to read your rantings, safe in the knowledge that someone in the western world can identify his oppressor of the day, and that at least the Al-Qaeda sympathetic group that just blew up his wife and children in the local market wasn't a "American".
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