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Earthsea


United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/05/2007 :  19:09:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1266628,00.html

Will this return to the Lebanon - Syria Battles,
or will the Army keep a Lid on it.

Ch4 News Live
spoke to a Journalist out there
who can not get near the place
as the Army are blocking everyone out.

Daveb
Earthsea



2207 Posts

Posted - 21/05/2007 :  19:37:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Israel will be back in soon.

We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you!
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Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 21/05/2007 :  19:43:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nobody wants that,again.
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Earthsea



United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/05/2007 :  21:14:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Large Explosion in Verdun,district of Beirut, Lebanon.

SkyNews Live.
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Posted - 22/05/2007 :  08:59:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
All predicted at the end of Israels pasting of lebanon last year.
Major rearmament of Lebanon by the west.
And the wests fight against terrorism.
Nasty palestinians getting pasted in a refugee camp.
Sounds familiar.
Thats the problem of having a memory.
The palestinians must give up the fight, against them the USA, UK,
Israel and Europe and Russia.
The crusaders are too strong for palestine, but not the rest of the area.

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Earthsea



United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/05/2007 :  09:01:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by avro

All predicted at the end of Israels pasting of lebanon last year.
Major rearmament of Lebanon by the west.
And the wests fight against terrorism.
Nasty palestinians getting pasted in a refugee camp.
Sounds familiar.
Thats the problem of having a memory.
The palestinians must give up the fight, against them the USA, UK,
Israel and Europe and Russia.
The crusaders are too strong for palestine, but not the rest of the area.

350 terrorist are hiding amongst the civilian population, using them as shields and it is Israels fault?

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Posted - 22/05/2007 :  09:08:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No it is the fault of the terrorists who for no reason at all
have had a bad hair day.

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nightbird
Calaspia



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Posted - 22/05/2007 :  09:08:57  Show Profile  Send nightbird an AOL message  Reply with Quote
This was going to happen no matter what, the erradication of these Islamic militant groups who are a thorn in the side of peace is the only hope the middle east has, its going to be bloody and messy.....
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Earthsea



United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/05/2007 :  09:15:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No Avro
this is a Syria-Lebanon battle,
Israel is not connected
and has no reason to be involved.

Edited by - long time no see on 22/05/2007 09:16:17
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Borninhove
Discworld



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Posted - 22/05/2007 :  10:24:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
LTNS, don't spoil poor avro's rant with anything as unfair as the truth.

The fact that Syria seems to be trying to destabilize Lebanon ahead of the UN investigation into the assassination of Rakik Hariri is no reason to get in the way of his fantasy, nor the fact that this is a small group, including many jihadists from many nations, who are using the Palestinian refugees as human shield.

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Earthsea



United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/05/2007 :  11:01:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes it is a mess
with many people to be accounted for
in that area.
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Posted - 22/05/2007 :  11:36:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes israel has nothing to do with it, OK
USA and UK have nothing to do with it, OK
The crusade has nothing to do with it.
The problem are some digruntled palestinians
who for no reason outside of their own twisted minds
have decided to move outside a refugee encampment and rob the bank.
The first problem is that this group of missfits robbed a bank.
That is a great reason to kill and injure a few innocent people,
also to blow up buildings.
But that is the nature of Arabs and islamists according to
the great enlightened ones on this thread.

This is more suffering for the area and it is all their fault.

Perhaps a quick solution is to Nuke the whole area
from afghanistan to palestine one time and get rid of the problem.
Also Chetnya and anywhere else these nasty terrorist types are emanating.

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Borninhove
Discworld



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Posted - 22/05/2007 :  12:50:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sigh

Valhalla, I am coming!
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5812 Posts

Posted - 22/05/2007 :  12:56:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Borninhove

Sigh

I know ...

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Borninhove
Discworld



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Posted - 22/05/2007 :  13:05:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


Not another avro post


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Posted - 22/05/2007 :  14:22:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
BIH, I agree with you that the nasty islamist palestinians are the problem and offer a quick solution.
So what is your solution oh wise one?

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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/05/2007 :  14:33:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by avro

BIH, I agree with you that the nasty islamist palestinians are the problem and offer a quick solution.
So what is your solution oh wise one?

And pray where did BiH state that, and I quote "the nasty islamist palestinians are the problem" twit?

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Borninhove
Discworld



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Posted - 22/05/2007 :  14:44:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh I say all kinds of things without knowing it (or actually saying it) but good old avro is always there to tell me what I say and think. Where would I be without him? Bless.

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Posted - 22/05/2007 :  15:25:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
BIH thankyou for you blessings,
but, what is your solution?

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FUBAR
Barsoom



425 Posts

Posted - 22/05/2007 :  15:30:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by avro

BIH thankyou for you blessings,
but, what is your solution?



Enhanced radiation neutron bombs spread generally throughout the area.......

I came into the world with nothing and still have most of it left..
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Borninhove
Discworld



1028 Posts

Posted - 22/05/2007 :  15:45:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Solution to what? The current situation in northern Lebanon? The current situation in southern Lebanon?

As to the former, it seems like a ceasefire has been declared by the jihadists to let UN trucks carrying food and water in.

If you mean to the problem of Palestinian refugees who have been kept in "refugee camps" by Arab nations for 60 years, well, I think had they been given citizenship to the countries their relatives fled to, like the million Jews kicked out of their homes throughout the Arab World were given Israeli citizenship, then many of the current problems could have been avoided. Instead, they have been kept apart from the nations in which they have been living, treated as a political football by cynical Arab leaders and been forced to live an existence dependent on UN charity.

What would my solution be? Give them citizenship of the country they and many of their parents were born in. That would be a start.

However, seeing how no solution has been found over the last 60 years I doubt anything either you or I come up with on a Forum would have any realistic chance of working.

Let me try the avro method though:

avro says that the final solution must be the destruction of Israel, only that way can fairness happen
avro thinks all the jews must be pushed into the sea
avro has stated many times that this is the only way
avro is wise and has all the answers

How's that?

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Posted - 22/05/2007 :  21:02:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
BIH. also that the palestinians should be given citizenship in all the countries
that house palestinian refugees?
This has only happened in Jordan.
Yes a hopeless situation that will continue for 3 more generations.

Difficult to find one person to blame for the whole sorry mess.
Maybe it is only Gods work. Amen

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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5812 Posts

Posted - 22/05/2007 :  21:07:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by avro

BIH. also that the palestinians should be given citizenship in all the countries
that house palestinian refugees?
This has only happened in Jordan.
Yes a hopeless situation that will continue for 3 more generations.

Difficult to find one person to blame for the whole sorry mess.
Maybe it is only Gods work. Amen

It has served the Arab Nations well to keep this unfortunate group in permanent displaced status.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Posted - 22/05/2007 :  21:13:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes it has helped Saudi, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Iraq and Iran for cheap labour, and israel for a few years, not now of course.

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Earthsea



United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/05/2007 :  21:15:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by avro

Yes it has helped Saudi, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Iraq and Iran for cheap labour, and israel for a few years, not now of course.

No Avro, it wasn't just cheap labour.

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Posted - 22/05/2007 :  21:33:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It helped iran and iraq so much so they had a war for 10 years
It helped lebanon they had a civil war for 10 years
Jordon syria and saudi and israel had cheap labour.

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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/05/2007 :  21:43:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You really think very little of the Palestinians don't you.

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Posted - 22/05/2007 :  21:58:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In the big global power picture they are not players
and of little interest to the big boys.
the troubles of the middle east are piddling
in comparison to what the big boys are capable of.
The palestine conflicts are localised and just a game for the BB,
that includes iraq and afghanistan, small bier.
I sympathise with the palestinians but their cause is lost.
They would settle tommorow for the pre 67 borders, but
that is not going to happen. They are doomed.

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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/05/2007 :  22:17:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They need not be ... doomed that is. They are a proud and resourceful people. As long as they allow themselves to be used as pawns by everyone, the Arab nations, some of their own people as well as the Israeli and various other international factors, they will remain victims.

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Posted - 23/05/2007 :  10:48:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am not to sure that any country wishes upon themselves 100s of thousands of refugees.
I suspect the refugees left their country because it was impossible for them to stay there.
The palestinians are the loosers not the victims, it is time for them to
do the best deal they can with the west, that includes israel.

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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5812 Posts

Posted - 23/05/2007 :  10:50:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by avro

I am not to sure that any country wishes upon themselves 100s of thousands of refugees.
I suspect the refugees left their country because it was impossible for them to stay there.
The palestinians are the loosers not the victims, it is time for them to
do the best deal they can with the west, that includes israel.

Some of the Palestinian in those Arab countries are third and even fourth generation 'residents'. It isn't something that happened overnight or even in the course of the last few months.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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