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Ian
Alagaësía


70 Posts

Posted - 22/05/2007 :  08:34:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From time to time I've been a bit suspicious of supermarket food and whether they store things properly. I have noticed that I've never had adverse reactions after eating M&S or Waitrose food, whereas I have had adverse reactions from food from some other supermarkets. There's a programme on tonight which sounds like it might have the answer:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6676345.stm

nightbird
Calaspia



603 Posts

Posted - 22/05/2007 :  08:50:48  Show Profile  Send nightbird an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Can only remember one bad case of food poisoning from supermarkets and that was from the salad bar at Sainsbury's.
The BBC would have done better to look closely at the suppliers of super markets and their subcontractors, thats where most poisoning originates from.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/humber/3708820.stm

Edited by - nightbird on 22/05/2007 08:59:05
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383 Posts

Posted - 22/05/2007 :  09:01:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Some deer got into the garden last night and eat the best of the lettuce,
not at all interested in the radish leaves.

dont put your cat in the washing machine or you might get a sock in the puss
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 22/05/2007 :  09:05:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is Whistleblower Docu is at 9PM BBC1 UK
The BBC say following Tip-offs
they sent Covert Reporters with cameras
to grass up on Tesco and Sainsburys.

The Whole point of the Deli is it looks good
so they are taking of any mould all the time.

Sign Of The Times.
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The Duke of Uranus
Barsoom



294 Posts

Posted - 22/05/2007 :  09:44:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nightbird

The BBC would have done better to look closely at the suppliers of super markets and their subcontractors, thats where most poisoning originates from.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/humber/3708820.stm



Not according to your link it doesn't...

quote:
He is writing to the Food Standards Agency (FSA) to advise them to issue national guidance on the storage and handling of lettuce, particularly in fast food outlets, where the North East Lincolnshire cases all started.

"We would not want people to stop eating lettuce at home," he said.

"The problem seems to occur in certain fast food outlets where lettuce is left lying around on display in high temperatures.

"We now believe there may be some multiplication of the bacteria in that environment."
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nightbird
Calaspia



603 Posts

Posted - 22/05/2007 :  21:57:23  Show Profile  Send nightbird an AOL message  Reply with Quote
After watching tonights programme we can see how Tesco and Sainsbury's made bumper profits.
Isn't there anybody out there protecting the comsumer I wonder ?
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5821 Posts

Posted - 22/05/2007 :  22:13:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cheap commodities always come at a price. We would do well to remember that as consumers.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Anubis
Barsoom



279 Posts

Posted - 22/05/2007 :  22:28:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tonight's TV programme was one of the 'really' best. Hope it gets replayed on other chanels. As a regular Tesco shopper, and, I kid myself, I thought aware of the world out there, I was horrified by what I saw ... and yet, much of it confirmed what I'd often noticed , but not !00% registered 'consciously' ....
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Joe Bloggs
Alagaësía



72 Posts

Posted - 22/05/2007 :  23:09:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ian, Waitrose were convicted of reselling out of date food in East Sussex in recent years. Western Road branch also had a very cavalier attitude to disability access at the front of the shop until recent years stating wheelchair bound people should enter the shop at the back instead. I've not shopped there since. And I wont be using those deli counters either in Tesco and Sainsbury's.
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nightbird
Calaspia



603 Posts

Posted - 24/05/2007 :  11:42:33  Show Profile  Send nightbird an AOL message  Reply with Quote
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/02_february/11/supermarket.shtml

This should please LTN,it seems they are all guilty at some time
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383 Posts

Posted - 24/05/2007 :  13:33:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Its a bit more expensive but I am buying meat from the local butcher
who swears that all his meat is local.
Also vegetables at the local greengrocer, again more expensive, but local.
Better to eat less of what is good than more of who knows what or where it came from.
I am also suspicious of the marketing of so called organic foods.

dont put your cat in the washing machine or you might get a sock in the puss
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 24/05/2007 :  13:40:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nightbird

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/02_february/11/supermarket.shtml

This should please LT,it seems they are all guilty at some time




Yes WalmartUK admit their Guilt.
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383 Posts

Posted - 24/05/2007 :  13:47:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
LTNS, having fully matured before any thing was "organic"
I still find that my own sense of sight smell and taste are very reliable
when choosing food.
Meat in the supermarket is normally wrapped and coloured by lights robbing me of all
of the above senses.

dont put your cat in the washing machine or you might get a sock in the puss
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 24/05/2007 :  14:00:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes
but a Big Store has Worldwide Choice.

Life In The City.


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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 26/05/2007 :  04:30:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/consumer_goods/article1843264.ece


More Food Corruption from Evil Tesco.
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Borninhove
Discworld



1028 Posts

Posted - 26/05/2007 :  05:37:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


More evil than you can imagine.

Valhalla, I am coming!
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240 Posts

Posted - 26/05/2007 :  11:10:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Reducing the consumption of meat/fish or becaming a vegetarian could be the answer, as time is confirming a decision that I've never regret, at least you reduce the chance of poisoning.
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 26/05/2007 :  11:16:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by quest

Reducing the consumption of meat/fish or becaming a vegetarian could be the answer, as time is confirming a decision that I've never regret, at least you reduce the chance of poisoning.




You have got to have Meat and Fish
as part of a Balanced Food.

But watch out for Evil Tesco.

Edited by - long time no see on 26/05/2007 11:16:42
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240 Posts

Posted - 26/05/2007 :  11:43:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
LT, there are enough information that a vegetarian is healthy and balance diet.

Sometimes to change habits you have to change traditions, everybody knows how turkeys are so bad treated in intense farming, and knowing that in christmas time millions of the same turkeys are consume, people don't seem to be connecting one to the other.

This an animal loving country.
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nightbird
Calaspia



603 Posts

Posted - 26/05/2007 :  11:43:02  Show Profile  Send nightbird an AOL message  Reply with Quote
http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/2003/09/30/food_microbes020930.html

Dangerous business being alive and having to eat, if you survive food poisoning you'll most likely be over weight and die anyway from a heart attack or diabetes....
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 26/05/2007 :  12:11:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by quest

LT, there are enough information that a vegetarian is healthy and balance diet.

Sometimes to change habits you have to change traditions, everybody knows how turkeys are so bad treated in intense farming, and knowing that in christmas time millions of the same turkeys are consume, people don't seem to be connecting one to the other.

This an animal loving country.




Sure
so long as you have Fish as well.

Edited by - long time no see on 26/05/2007 12:12:22
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240 Posts

Posted - 26/05/2007 :  14:02:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are a fish industry to mantain.
Once I was poison with Kentacky fried chicken, I can't even describe the awful effects. After this and having spent sometime in the east it wasn't difficult become vegetarians. Since them we make lifetime commitment to stay vegetarians, and we've never been food poison again. My children are vegetarian as well and when grown can't make their own decisions.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5821 Posts

Posted - 26/05/2007 :  14:04:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good for you.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 26/05/2007 :  14:19:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by quest

There are a fish industry to mantain.
Once I was poison with Kentacky fried chicken, I can't even describe the awful effects. After this and having spent sometime in the east it wasn't difficult become vegetarians. Since them we make lifetime commitment to stay vegetarians, and we've never been food poison again. My children are vegetarian as well and when grown can't make their own decisions.




Very Fair.

Bad that the KFC got you.
They get busy, rush a load - not cooking it proper.

Sign Of The Times.
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nightbird
Calaspia



603 Posts

Posted - 26/05/2007 :  19:08:41  Show Profile  Send nightbird an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

quote:
Originally posted by quest

There are a fish industry to mantain.
Once I was poison with Kentacky fried chicken, I can't even describe the awful effects. After this and having spent sometime in the east it wasn't difficult become vegetarians. Since them we make lifetime commitment to stay vegetarians, and we've never been food poison again. My children are vegetarian as well and when grown can't make their own decisions.


http://www.kentuckyfriedcruelty.com/u-georges.asp


Very Fair.

Bad that the KFC got you.
They get busy, rush a load - not cooking it proper.

Sign Of The Times.

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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 26/05/2007 :  19:20:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes I have seen that site.
It will not stop them on the High Streets.
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nightbird
Calaspia



603 Posts

Posted - 26/05/2007 :  23:27:54  Show Profile  Send nightbird an AOL message  Reply with Quote
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Daveb
Earthsea



2215 Posts

Posted - 27/05/2007 :  10:14:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A balanced diet is a burger in each hand.
Also if something is green it has generally gone off!

We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you!
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5821 Posts

Posted - 27/05/2007 :  10:21:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And there was me thinking it was a chocolate in each hand. Just goes to show how wrong you can be

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Anubis
Barsoom



279 Posts

Posted - 27/05/2007 :  18:57:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nightbird

http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/2003/09/30/food_microbes020930.html

Dangerous business being alive and having to eat, if you survive food poisoning you'll most likely be over weight and die anyway from a heart attack or diabetes....



Not meaning to "start up something" by a too literal reading of your sensible comment, Nightbird .... but people don't "die of diabetes" although the consequences of the condition and/or the medication/treatment used CAN facilitate a fatality. Two-thirds of diabetics currently 'snuff it' from heart attack/stroke.
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nightbird
Calaspia



603 Posts

Posted - 27/05/2007 :  19:16:00  Show Profile  Send nightbird an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Diabetes shortens ones life or quality of life no matter how you look at it, even some of the controls have there dangers, better to avoid getting diabetes Type 2 by exercise and a sensible diet.
More and more children contracting Type 2 diabetes through life style now was never heard of before, you inherit Type 1 through genes not much can be done there at the moment.....

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2007-05-21-diabetes-drug-risks_N.htm
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