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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28/05/2007 : 15:54:01
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| I think that quite a number of posts on this thread would agree with you there Jodan. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 28/05/2007 : 15:58:25
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Tragedy for all.
They need closure. |
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Posted - 28/05/2007 : 17:00:27
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| In this case the part of the society who are really sick are the paedophiles. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 28/05/2007 : 17:13:01
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Do we know Maddy was taken by (a) paedophile/s or are we assuming?
What is sick beyond doubt is the vicarious grieving that abounds. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
 Posted - 28/05/2007 : 17:32:06
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Originally posted by Miriam Binder
Do we know Maddy was taken by (a) paedophile/s or are we assuming?
What is sick beyond doubt is the vicarious grieving that abounds.
That is the Problem Miriam
they do not know who has her or why.
Very True.
And is it a African nation she is in? |
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Posted - 28/05/2007 : 18:59:22
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| OK, in this case it's sickening whom ever the captor/s. Grieving is in the human nature, not everybody find grieve in a normal life, so Madeleine dissapearance is only the excuse, same with Dianne's death. |
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Joe Bloggs
Alagaësía
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Posted - 29/05/2007 : 23:08:43
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Bizzarre thread. If there was ever one.
Most can relate to the parents plight, and who wouldn't use whatever means existed to ensure the safe return of their child in this circumstance? I actually find it quite encouraging that enough people still care for this to be news still several weeks on. |
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Joe Bloggs
Alagaësía
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Posted - 30/05/2007 : 00:06:26
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Personally I think this story sums up a sick society. I appreciate voyeurs will enjoy such prospects, but these images, however, distasteful, have been in the public domain for a decade.
Same with the Twin Towers, some subjects as they presented themselves at the time in actuality remain and increasingly become taboo. That is sick.
Personally I couldn't give a flying one about 'arry. He needs to get himself some new advisers frankly. He should grow up and recognise his mother made herself public property.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070528/film_nm/britain_diana_dc |
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Daveb
Earthsea
2211 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2007 : 19:55:17
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The more this goes on I am sorry to say I am starting to think one of the parents killed her.
My feeling is it was the mother. |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2007 : 20:17:49
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One Important Interview on SkyNews
had a Lady talking about some Facts
that have been missed.
One is that Hotel
has baby sitters
it would have been better if they used that service.
I also think they must leave that Nation.
If Any news comes in they can fly back at any time.
Other Familys will not go on Holiday
in that area because of Them.
They must leave,
staying there makes no change. |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2007 : 20:19:26
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Originally posted by Daveb
The more this goes on I am sorry to say I am starting to think one of the parents killed her.
My feeling is it was the mother.
If that is True then
they must be Locked away for Life.
If it is not true
then they would be better
to return to the UK. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2007 : 20:52:38
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Oh for Pete's sake if you want to spout of a load of ill-informed claptrap ... be my guest!
http://forums.mirror.co.uk/viewforum.php?f=31 |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2007 : 20:58:46
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quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder
Oh for Pete's sake if you want to spout of a load of ill-informed claptrap ... be my guest!
What is Your problem?
Two Posters with Views have Posted.
If you do not like Our Views
go on another thread.
You Keep doing this
You are Out Of Order. |
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thedelboy
Discworld
United Kingdom
1401 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2007 : 21:37:16
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IT is "NOT" for anyone to judge until full facts are available!Even then it will be for the judicial system to judge,What is wrong with people today?they are damned if they stay and they are damned if they leave(the Mc canns;I really feel for not only the parents but also for the family as a whole(even the villagers)What I abhore is the fact Murats lawyer coming out with his crapola and also some of the ignorant posts on here!
Jodan she is blond and blue eyed I thought you would be spitting blood about this!but as usual you talk shit |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2007 : 22:35:37
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| Jodan is no longer on this Site Delboy. |
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Daveb
Earthsea
2211 Posts |
Posted - 13/08/2007 : 06:25:43
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We do not have all the facts and I would be very pleased if Madeleine is found alive and well.
Three months after the event there maybe blood on the wall!
Did they not see this at the time?
There is just something strange about this.
A bit like the Bob Woolmer case.
First it was murder, marks around the throat, then months down the line...oh actually it was not.
These are trained medics and police we are talking about. |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 13/08/2007 : 06:36:39
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Originally posted by Daveb
We do not have all the facts and I would be very pleased if Madeleine is found alive and well.
Exactly so Daveb and plenty of people are speculating ... |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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thedelboy
Discworld
United Kingdom
1401 Posts |
Posted - 13/08/2007 : 10:55:58
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| we should NOT speculate,especially on something as bad as this;just think how you would feel if you were the parent.I hope they find her alive soon,Natasha the german girl was found 14/15 years later lets hope it does not take so long to find her(either way )just so the parents can either grieve or rejoice whichever!(I hope they will be able to rejoice) |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 13/08/2007 : 12:17:51
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 13/08/2007 : 12:20:30
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Originally posted by long time no see
But we can say they should return home.
You can say that you think they should return home. You can say whatever you like. They should do what they feel they should do ... unless you have a very daughter gone missing under similar circumstances, you cannot really enter into what those parents feel LTNS. |
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Pelagia
Barsoom
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Posted - 13/08/2007 : 18:49:51
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Please not here. Go over to the Mirror forum if you really want to have a go. There you will see evil in its lowest form. It's a load of sock puppets, and I am certain (and i am not the only one) that there are actually a load of paedos posting there.
This forum is one of the few there are which has no Madeline thread, it's a haven of tranquility (sometimes) lets keep it like that! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 13/08/2007 : 19:23:11
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This Forum has a Thread on
the subject Pel.
No one will join another Forum just for this Topic.
It is in Every Newspaper again
so any poster on here has the Right to give a view.
FACT. |
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thedelboy
Discworld
United Kingdom
1401 Posts |
Posted - 14/08/2007 : 10:13:41
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| Of course you have the right to post your opinion LTNS same as everyone else,I think what is being said by myself and others is "as none of us have been in or are in the position of the Mc cann family we should not speculate or imply what they should or should not do"I think that is fair enough!as a parent myself(albeit in absentia) I would be terrified if anything happened to my kids (all grown up now) |
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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld
1178 Posts |
Posted - 14/08/2007 : 20:35:57
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While all the media focus on the tragic abduction of a small child goes on, at least, wouldn`t you think, folks will me more aware of the dangers of leaving their young unattended???
This really bothers me still -
Last week, I pulled into our Aldi car park intending to nip through the hedge to Boots. I saw a maroon car with the windows open (it was hot that day) and 2 small boys, the eldest couldn`t be more than 4 years old, laughing and playing inside it, no accompanying adult in sight, but plenty of folks coming back to or leaving other cars nearby. I hesitated, considered going in to Aldi and alerting the staff to these 2 kids unattended in a car on Aldi carpark... I decided (WHY?)to just nip into Boots quickly and tthen see if they were still there and report it to Aldi staff. I got side-tracked and was a lot longer in Boots than I`d expected, but when I got back to my car the other car was still there, no adult in there, and still the 2 little boys, and the younger one was getting fractious and tearful, while the older one was still trying to sound happy and boisterous...
I looked around, and still folks were coming into the car park, getting out of cars, and coming out of Aldi getting into cars, and nobody was taking any notice of the maroon car and the 2 kids.
I headed for Aldi entrance, kept looking back to see if folks coming out went to that car. I did hesitate, and then 2 young women came out and went to the car and shouted at the kids.
What really bugs me is that I did NOTHING.
I`d considered reporting to Aldi staff, considered ringing police, and considered keeping watch and speaking to the parents when they returned - and I didn`t even do that!
I`m quite ashamed.
I`m also amazed that nobody else, all those folks coming and going, took any notice either.
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Daveb
Earthsea
2211 Posts |
Posted - 14/08/2007 : 20:42:12
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You did well not to speak to the "parents"
If they just shouted at the kids, just think what abuse you would have got.
Aldi staff would do nothing.
Phoning the police would have been the best option.
That is unless these kids were CSPOs!
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We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld
1178 Posts |
Posted - 14/08/2007 : 21:15:14
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But I, and quite a lot of other folks who came and went, did NOTHING.
And I bet those women are all bleeding-hearts about little Maddie. |
Row faster, slaves! Caesar wants to waterski! |
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Daveb
Earthsea
2211 Posts |
Posted - 14/08/2007 : 21:21:26
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You cannot feel guilty for every uncaring parent.
These will be the parents that cannot believe their little darlings will do anything wrong.
After all they are dragging their kids up proper, ain't they? |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld
1178 Posts |
Posted - 14/08/2007 : 23:46:41
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| No, DaveB, I just feel guilty that I didn`t do or say anything. I DID notice, and watch, and if the mother/mothers hadn`t appeared I couldn`t have driven off and left the situation. Some of the retailers car parks do have attendants (if only to ensure nobody parks there more than 2 hours) but this one doesn`t. |
Row faster, slaves! Caesar wants to waterski! |
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Daveb
Earthsea
2211 Posts |
Posted - 26/08/2007 : 19:36:45
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The Madeleine fund Trustees appear to be at odds with the parents.
The parents want to spend the money to keep up the search.
The Trustees seem reluctant.
Very strange if you ask me.
This is not a even a charity, so are the Trustees protecting their jobs?
Do they get paid? |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 26/08/2007 : 19:58:14
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quote:
Originally posted by Daveb
The Madeleine fund Trustees appear to be at odds with the parents.
The parents want to spend the money to keep up the search.
The Trustees seem reluctant.
Very strange if you ask me.
This is not a even a charity, so are the Trustees protecting their jobs?
Do they get paid?
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The directors are not paid as directors of the company. However, they may, if family members, be beneficiaries of the Fund and they may, as is the case with some registered charities, be paid for providing services to the Fund. The Fund has established conflict of interest policies to deal with these situations.
Currently, as at the end of July 2007, none of the directors are being paid for providing services to the Fund.
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The sign of a sick society?