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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 19/11/2007 :  21:49:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Of Course
but many are
it is a Health Point
you see.
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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld



1216 Posts

Posted - 20/11/2007 :  20:05:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
LTNS, I know workers are busy - some of us that only get a half hour lunch-break are too damned busy to queue in the canteen when it`s busy on weekdays, let alone go shopping. I still say, if they`ve time to go shopping in their breaks they`ve had time to organise taking cash/card with them, they have time to take a bag with them as well.
And another Health Point - if you take your own sandwiches then you can wrap them in whatever you like - but you KNOW what went into them!

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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 20/11/2007 :  20:14:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Many will have bags
But not all,
so for those that do not have a bag for their 5 items,
for example,
a simple paper bag will do.

CASE CLOSED.
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Daveb
Earthsea



2420 Posts

Posted - 20/11/2007 :  20:20:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's a BAG not a CASE!

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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6137 Posts

Posted - 20/11/2007 :  21:33:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

Many will have bags
But not all,
so for those that do not have a bag for their 5 items,
for example,
a simple paper bag will do.


And there is a world of difference between a bag will do and a bag MUST be supplied!
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

If the Worker has a Bag - all is good.
But if the worker ,on a break, does not have a bag
the Store must supply a Paper Bag.
Simple.


"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 20/11/2007 :  21:35:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes a Paper Bag
very simple.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6137 Posts

Posted - 20/11/2007 :  21:41:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Evidently not simple enough.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 20/11/2007 :  21:52:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6137 Posts

Posted - 20/11/2007 :  22:03:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see



This may surprise you LTNS but I know what a paper bag is ... what you do not seem to grasp is that there is a difference between may and must!

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 20/11/2007 :  23:20:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They May give a paper bag.

They Must give a paper bag if they want the shopper.
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld



1339 Posts

Posted - 24/11/2007 :  12:40:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a piece which goes beyond no bags to being "compactors" - non-consumers (no more pasties...)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2007/nov/24/recycling.ethicalshopping
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davidson
Alagaësía



5 Posts

Posted - 28/02/2008 :  18:32:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Today Marks and Spencer
claim they are in the lead with no bags unless you pay.
But sadly all their plastic food packs are much worse.
Every time they go on the news it is a free advert.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6137 Posts

Posted - 28/02/2008 :  18:56:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by davidson

Today Marks and Spencer
claim they are in the lead with no bags unless you pay.
But sadly all their plastic food packs are much worse.
Every time they go on the news it is a free advert.

Well, they claim wrong. Lidl's has been charging for plastic carrier bags since it first opened its doors.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Dingo
Barsoom



United Kingdom
296 Posts

Posted - 28/02/2008 :  20:10:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ASDA's attempt to stop issuing bags didn't last more than about a week in Hollingbury. It's back to business as usual now.
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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld



1216 Posts

Posted - 29/02/2008 :  10:12:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Our Asda up here also seem to have given up, though their effort did last a few months, at least. I`ve noticed recently with disappointment there`s no option but plastic bags unless you take your own.
I reckon Tesco`s got the best approach, with a great range of cheap but nice re-usable bags, AND the clubcard points for using them.

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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6137 Posts

Posted - 29/02/2008 :  10:26:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, the Asda here at the Marina has plenty of options for the concerned shopper. There are the 'bags for life' things as well as nice hemp and linen shopping bags in various sizes - including a nice little 'wine carrier' I think. It looks as if it is down to each individual store management team.

And the Marina one certainly seems to be blessed with not just a higher then average percentage of good staff ... many have worked there for years but a really hands on management team as well.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Ian
Alagaësía



70 Posts

Posted - 29/02/2008 :  10:42:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder

Well, the Asda here at the Marina has plenty of options for the concerned shopper. There are the 'bags for life' things as well as nice hemp and linen shopping bags in various sizes - including a nice little 'wine carrier' I think. It looks as if it is down to each individual store management team.

And the Marina one certainly seems to be blessed with not just a higher then average percentage of good staff ... many have worked there for years but a really hands on management team as well.


Plus I think they have a recycling bin where you can put old or unwanted plastic bags.
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Edwin the Scot
Alagaësía



16 Posts

Posted - 29/02/2008 :  12:12:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Daily Mail has recently given many pages in one issue to the plastic bag controversy, and so Gordon Brown has had to wake up.
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Daveb
Earthsea



2420 Posts

Posted - 29/02/2008 :  12:16:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Some of the pictures were quite shocking.
I certainly did not realise the scale of the problem in some places.

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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld



1216 Posts

Posted - 29/02/2008 :  15:29:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Glad to hear that some Asda`s still have the nice hemp and linen shopping bags Mim. Our nearest Asda has really good staff too though, and seems pretty well run - that`s why I can`t understand why they seem to have dropped the shopping bags.
Also, I`m no fan of the tabloid press but I`m delighted the Daily Mail is highlighting this issue.
It`s not just Gordon Brown who needs to wake up, it`s every shop, and everyone who goes shopping and ignores the problem.

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Richie
Alagaësía



5 Posts

Posted - 29/02/2008 :  17:15:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Daveb

Some of the pictures were quite shocking.
I certainly did not realise the scale of the problem in some places.




Those pictures were from Hawaii
nothing to do with this country.
Scale of the problem is outside this country
why are they doing nothing?

Edited by - Richie on 29/02/2008 17:16:41
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6137 Posts

Posted - 29/02/2008 :  18:22:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hiya Richie. As long as we do not tackle our own issue with plastic carrier bags then we really cannot say much about other places that refue to tackle the issue as well.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Richie
Alagaësía



5 Posts

Posted - 29/02/2008 :  18:36:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder

Hiya Richie. As long as we do not tackle our own issue with plastic carrier bags then we really cannot say much about other places that refue to tackle the issue as well.




But we are

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=522765&in_page_id=1770
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6137 Posts

Posted - 29/02/2008 :  18:56:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We are, sporadically and patchy ... Still, every step in the right direction is a step in the right direction.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld



1216 Posts

Posted - 29/02/2008 :  19:58:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You mean `Every Little Helps`? :)

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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6137 Posts

Posted - 29/02/2008 :  20:52:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fluffy Sheep

You mean `Every Little Helps`? :)

Can't slip nothing past you can I Fluffy

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Furzewick
Barsoom



United Kingdom
134 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2008 :  08:54:51  Show Profile  Visit Furzewick's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fluffy Sheep

Our Asda up here also seem to have given up, though their effort did last a few months, at least. I`ve noticed recently with disappointment there`s no option but plastic bags unless you take your own.
I reckon Tesco`s got the best approach, with a great range of cheap but nice re-usable bags, AND the clubcard points for using them.




What about Tesco self service tills that encourage plastic bag use and NO Clubcard points for using bags again.
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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld



1216 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2008 :  15:47:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don`t do the self-service tills, so never notice how they operate there.

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Control Panel
Discworld



1247 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2008 :  21:36:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Why does Tesco allow those big machines run by a firm which takes large quantities of coins and gives out other coins/notes but takes a percentage in the process when in fact people can put coins in the self-service checkouts and not incur a percentage (even if they are denied Clubcard points on a re-used bag)?

Tesco would soon give re-used bag points at the self-service checkouts if people were to start creating great queues by putting in a quid's worth of pennies saved up in a pot behind the clock on the mantlepiece...

Ah! the pleasures of subversion!
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6137 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2008 :  21:50:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The percentage is supposedly for charity isn't it?

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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