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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
 Posted - 31/05/2007 : 17:08:44
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Squatters rights have led the Pastor powerless
to stop yobs wrecking his church.
Page 17 todays argus paper.
The Baptist Church
Richmond Parade, Brighton paid £1,000
to have it boarded it up, but they still got in.
The 180 year old organ has been ripped apart.
Life In The City.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6127 Posts |
Posted - 31/05/2007 : 17:28:30
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| Drinking sherry at 8:30 in the morning yet ... what is this world coming too? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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nightbird
Calaspia
603 Posts |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 31/05/2007 : 18:43:00
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A ain't worried about it.
But these Stinking Dirty Yobs - should be Locked away. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6127 Posts |
Posted - 31/05/2007 : 18:48:02
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| In overcrowded jails LTNS? For not caring about a society that has stopped caring about them? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 31/05/2007 : 18:51:17
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They have room for some.
Stinking New Labour will have to find room. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6127 Posts |
Posted - 31/05/2007 : 18:57:17
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| You have become extremely olfactory lately LTNS. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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nightbird
Calaspia
603 Posts |
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richieb
Alagaësía
11 Posts |
Posted - 31/05/2007 : 19:22:00
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| olfactory? Is that where the squatters used to live? |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 31/05/2007 : 19:29:24
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quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder
You have become extremely olfactory lately LTNS.
You have got to take a Stand. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6127 Posts |
Posted - 31/05/2007 : 19:32:31
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| But does it have to be a nasal stand LTNS? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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richieb
Alagaësía
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Posted - 31/05/2007 : 19:51:56
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| i hate to say it but I agree with LTNS. I am sure there are some decent squatters who dont wreck places out there, but why do some they feel the need to destroy a house just because they dont own it? |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6127 Posts |
Posted - 31/05/2007 : 20:10:44
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| All that is fair enough Richieb and I too agree that this sort of behaviour is unacceptable. However, and let us be quite frank about this ... we don't know that the actual squatters are the ones that damaged the property. Though I'll grant you that it is a fair assumption it is but an assumption. The original pair were granted permission to stay in the chapel so in a way, the squatters were invited in. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 31/05/2007 : 20:17:10
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Originally posted by richieb
i hate to say it but I agree with LTNS. I am sure there are some decent squatters who dont wreck places out there, but why do some they feel the need to destroy a house just because they dont own it?
They are Yobs-Vandals.
Prison is best for them. |
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Daveb
Earthsea
2420 Posts |
Posted - 31/05/2007 : 21:11:59
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I think this is a case if kindness being repaid with a kick in teeth.
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We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6127 Posts |
Posted - 31/05/2007 : 21:27:05
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| Maybe ... but we don't know who did the kicking in the teeth. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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A Gold
Alagaësía
60 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2007 : 08:28:41
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Round them up.
Put them in a field
& bomb the bastards! |
Boycott Forfars & The Goldstone Retail Park,
GAGGED & BANNED
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2007 : 09:11:44
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quote:
Originally posted by A Gold
Round them up.
Put them in a field
& bomb the bastards!
Miriam would Protest. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6127 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2007 : 09:19:03
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| I certainly would! Without a trial and conviction it would be sheer murder. With a trial and conviction it would run contrary to a humane penal code. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2007 : 09:29:01
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quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder
I certainly would! Without a trial and conviction it would be sheer murder. With a trial and conviction it would run contrary to a humane penal code.
Ok give 'em
a Trial.
Then do it. |
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Daveb
Earthsea
2420 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2007 : 12:35:26
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Put a sign up to say the church will be demolished on a date.
Then if anyone is inside they must be guilty.
Tough! |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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FLAME
Alagaësía
United Kingdom
9 Posts |
Posted - 20/07/2007 : 01:58:09
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I have an acquaintance that lived at said squat for the duration and have it on good information that the story the Argus printed was complete and utter rubbish.
Squatting is LEGAL, people with drug and alcohol problems need a roof too. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6127 Posts |
Posted - 20/07/2007 : 06:05:15
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| squatting is maybe not illegal as such ad I agree that people with drug and alcohol issues need roofs too however neither squatting nor substance issues are necessarily something to crow about I would have thought. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Daveb
Earthsea
2420 Posts |
Posted - 20/07/2007 : 08:14:47
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| The place was not trashed then FLAME? |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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FLAME
Alagaësía
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20/07/2007 : 16:40:43
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There was some graffiti and mess, but the organ was not damaged by the squatters and drugs were NOT being sold from the premises, especially not to any children.
Having said that, I didn't see the squat with my own eyes and am saying this on the word of a friend, so...
It's being knocked down anyway
Once again the Argus blows it out of all proportion, using right wing alarmist rhetoric to make sure the grannies keep their knickers twisted and buying issues so they sit around being 'outraged' in front of Jeremy Kyle.  |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 20/07/2007 : 17:20:14
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The Organ should haver been removed.
Once the Dodgy Squatters Break In
it becomes their fault 100%.
The Argus had some Key Points
if you feel they expanded too much.
Write into them
then we can read your Reply in it. |
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FLAME
Alagaësía
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20/07/2007 : 17:34:35
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quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder
neither squatting nor substance issues are necessarily something to crow about I would have thought.
Some of the most intelligent, creative and interesting people I know are hopeless drug addicts and squatters. This is why I speak on their behalf.
The exact opposite is true in a lot of cases though of course  |
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FLAME
Alagaësía
United Kingdom
9 Posts |
Posted - 20/07/2007 : 17:36:40
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Originally posted by long time no see
The Organ should haver been removed.
Once the Dodgy Squatters Break In
it becomes their fault 100%.
The Argus had some Key Points
if you feel they expanded too much.
Write into them
then we can read your Reply in it.
That is a fair point, but I suspect any letter stating the truth of the situation wouldn't be printed by the local tory rag. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6127 Posts |
Posted - 20/07/2007 : 17:46:23
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Originally posted by FLAME
Some of the most intelligent, creative and interesting people I know are hopeless drug addicts and squatters. This is why I speak on their behalf.
The exact opposite is true in a lot of cases though of course
I dare say though I would question the need for anyone to speak on behalf of intelligent, creative and interesting people unless of course their intelligence, creativity and sheer fascination means that they consider themselves as not needing to empower themselves to do so on their own behalf.
Look, like it or not and believe it or not, I have no axe to grind with people who elect to drop out of society. Having said that, I do not see why people that elect to drop out of society can then expect society not to pull away from them.
If, on the other hand you were speaking on behalf of those who have dropped out of society because they had no choice .... well, then by all means, speak out. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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FLAME
Alagaësía
United Kingdom
9 Posts |
Posted - 20/07/2007 : 17:53:31
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I totally agree with the point you're making regarding those who choose to drop out because it's 'cool' and they can go back to daddies trust fund at any point- Trustafarians! - (lol), but I wasn't referring to them. They can keep their hippy logic and suck my balls.
Squatting is a necessity for many, however. |
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FLAME
Alagaësía
United Kingdom
9 Posts |
Posted - 20/07/2007 : 17:56:04
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Intelligent, creative and interesting does not equate to an ability to sort one's life out, get a job etc. in a lot of cases.
Judge lest thou not be judged. :) |
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Vandal Squatters - Richmond Parade
