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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20/09/2007 : 17:44:17
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Sure Email is very Important
but Products do not get sent by Email
they are sent by Post.
UPS are fine for 'some' deals but not all of them.
The Strikers have no Valid reason to strike
they are wrecking the UK.
Sign Of The Times. |
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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld
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Posted - 20/09/2007 : 19:04:25
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If a postman does the whole route efficiently in less time, he then gets sent to work on another route to make up his hours, ok...? I see that he`d feel miffed if he`s done his own work AND half of someone else`s, for the same wage.
I work on a ward where there are supposed to be 4 nurses on duty on days. One would be Sister or a senior staff nurse,overall in-charge, and their shift is always busy. The other 3 have a `team` of patients each, a third of the ward, and are directly responsible for their total care. When a colleague goes off sick or holiday absences are not covered, that means 2 staff nurses take a team and a half each (for the same pay, of course.) This is a depressingly regular occurrence. There must be many other working situations that are parallels.
WHAT is so special about pathetic Postmen?? |
Row faster, slaves! Caesar wants to waterski! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6429 Posts |
Posted - 20/09/2007 : 19:14:54
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Yes the Postal Strikers are Rotten people.
The have No Valid Reason to Strike.
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FUBAR
Barsoom
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 Posted - 20/09/2007 : 22:51:52
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Everyone has a valid reason to strike...it just may not be valid for you......
I am always amazed how when it's "your" strike or pay rise it is a worthy and just cause but everybody else should bite the bullet and carry on. A truly just system would be where we all choose our own pay scales and job benefits........just like our MPs do..... |
I came into the world with nothing and still have most of it left.. |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6429 Posts |
Posted - 20/09/2007 : 22:54:37
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In this current Market Place
they have no valid reason to strike. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20/09/2007 : 23:00:01
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| Evidently the postal workers do not agree with you LTNS ... maybe you should have a word with them? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6429 Posts |
Posted - 20/09/2007 : 23:11:15
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Of course they would not agree.
So What. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5305 Posts |
Posted - 20/09/2007 : 23:36:48
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Originally posted by long time no see
Of course they would not agree.
So What.
Do correct me if I'm wrong LTNS but in your initial post on this thread you appear to hold that they do have valid reasons for the strike ... quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
So long as he does the Whole route
then it should not matter if he does it quicker.
Sign Of The Times.
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"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
Edited by - Miriam Binder on 21/09/2007 07:51:11 |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6429 Posts |
Posted - 20/09/2007 : 23:52:14
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5305 Posts |
Posted - 21/09/2007 : 07:52:47
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Originally posted by long time no see
The Current strike is not over that.
So what is this strike about? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6429 Posts |
Posted - 21/09/2007 : 08:07:42
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No Valid Reason to Strike
that is the problem. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5305 Posts |
Posted - 21/09/2007 : 08:13:56
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Originally posted by long time no see
No Valid Reason to Strike
that is the problem.
Which still does not answer the question LTNS. You started this thread about Postal strikes on 7th of June inst., claiming that the strikes were about working practise and that Royal Mail aparently expects postmen to work for the hours they have been contracted for.
So have their grievances changed? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6429 Posts |
Posted - 21/09/2007 : 08:54:43
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30400-1285093,00.html
Two Big 48Hour Strikes from Postal Workers.
This is all wrong
Strikes are getting worse since Brown took over.
Life Under Brown.
pathetic New Labour.
Miriam the Current Strike was posted yesterday
the other strikes are not the same reasons. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5305 Posts |
Posted - 21/09/2007 : 09:02:40
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| Seems to me that it is a continuation of the same reason they called the previous strikes LTNS |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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The Duke of Uranus
Barsoom
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Posted - 21/09/2007 : 10:38:53
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Miriam the Current Strike was posted yesterday
Well if it's going first class i reckon we won't be seeing it for another 6 months  |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/09/2007 : 12:28:51
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
Miriam the Current Strike was posted yesterday
the other strikes are not the same reasons.
Okay LTNS, I have gone direct to the horses mouth as it were. Having spoken to a couple of postmen I can safely say that the rank and file, the postmen and women that is, are under the impression that the current strikes have been called because the negotiations that came in response to the last strikes have broken down. Hence it is for exactly the same reasons as the previous strikes. In fact it is merely a continuation of the same grievance action. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6429 Posts |
Posted - 21/09/2007 : 13:09:23
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The Union Boss Ward claims
the postal bosses are trying to Destroy it!
But infact it is the Union that is Destroying the Post Office
with these Evil Long Strikes,
no care for the small business.
Sign Of The Times. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5305 Posts |
Posted - 21/09/2007 : 17:30:07
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Originally posted by long time no see
The Union Boss Ward claims
the postal bosses are trying to Destroy it!
But infact it is the Union that is Destroying the Post Office
with these Evil Long Strikes,
no care for the small business.
Sign Of The Times.
That is one way of looking at it. Then again, how about the Post Office considering they have a hapy workforce so that they can continue to serve these small businesses? It could be said that it is the Post Office that is trying to destroy small businesses and using their disgruntled workforce to do so. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
Edited by - Miriam Binder on 21/09/2007 17:31:12 |
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Daveb
Discworld
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Posted - 21/09/2007 : 22:23:12
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This is nothing to do with small businesses.
It's about pay and conditions of contract.
If a route is finished early the management want the hours they pay to be fulfiled.
I would say that if the roud was so large that it always took longer than the hour payed the postmen would want overtime.
Cannot have swings without roundabouts.
Post Office management and workers do not care who it effects. |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld
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Posted - 22/09/2007 : 21:30:08
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| Our `morning post` generally arrives later than our local evening paper when the schoolchildren doing the paper-round are on school hols. Our postie is very laid-back, too. Countless times I`ve seen him around the estate stopping for a fag-break, sitting on someone`s garden wall, He knows it`s well after mid-day, and he knows he hasn`t been down our road yet, but thinks nothing of it and gives me a cheerful wave... |
Row faster, slaves! Caesar wants to waterski! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6429 Posts |
Posted - 22/09/2007 : 21:37:58
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That sounds OK
at least he is happy.
In London many Postal Workers are corrupt
and never caught.
Sign Of The Times. |
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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld
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Posted - 22/09/2007 : 21:54:03
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I`m not too impressed with ours, actually!!!
OK, it is a bit different in rural areas. Our postie takes his time that way, but I know another postie (she used to be a care assistant in the nursing home where I used to work) whose round takes longer because she doubles back a few times, doing a bit of shopping for some old ladies on her round, and stopping to chat with them - which is brilliant, as she might be the only person they`ll get to talk with that day. Also, if she hasn`t seen them for a few days, she`ll knock on their door and check on them even if there`s no post to deliver. She once told an older male colleague that she did this, and half expected a telling off. He told her he did the same, but advised her not to broadcast it! Those 2, I`d happily DOUBLE their wages!!! |
Row faster, slaves! Caesar wants to waterski! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6429 Posts |
Posted - 22/09/2007 : 21:59:41
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For Sure
Fluffy. |
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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld
1164 Posts |
Posted - 22/09/2007 : 22:44:17
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| Our postie, when I pass him on one of his numerous fag-breaks, rather than acknowledge and return his wave, I`d seriously like to stop and park up, get out and kick his idle shins! But that would only give him the excuse to take his time about things even more! |
Row faster, slaves! Caesar wants to waterski! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6429 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2007 : 16:19:43
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From a Live Report on Radio 5
Postal Workers have said they can not afford these srikes.
More big Companys, like Amazon,
have now left Royal Mail Contracts.
This Union has NO VALID reason to strike.
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6429 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2007 : 19:17:42
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That Union is Criminal
normal service will not return until the 15th of Oct.
Then, that same Union, is going on strike for longer than 48 hours.
Notice Srinking New Labour have not said one Word today
that is so typical.
Small Companys and the Public suffer Big Time with these Non Valid Strikes.
If the Royal Mail want
they will sell it All off at a Loss, (Reported on Ch4 News Live)
then Polish workers will take over
and anything is better than This Criminal Postal Union.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5305 Posts |
 Posted - 08/10/2007 : 09:33:24
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| Divide and conquer? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6429 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2007 : 12:16:09
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Un-Elected UK PM Brown
has no help on the Evil Postal Strike
that is now on for yet Another 2 days. |
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Postal Strike