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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5305 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2007 :  14:43:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

Un-Elected UK PM Brown
has no help on the Evil Postal Strike
that is now on for yet Another 2 days.

And this is his business because??????

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Earthsea



United Kingdom
6428 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  06:14:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30400-1287337,00.html

More Strikes to come
as after all these talks with the Union
still no common ground.

Sign Of The Times.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5305 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  06:20:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The managers are happy though

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Earthsea



United Kingdom
6428 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  06:22:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Of course.
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nightowl
Barsoom



249 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  06:26:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not nice being told after decades of service you can't retire wih a pension at 60, you will have to wait until 65 and get a greatly reduced pension.
The great pensions mugging is still going on..........
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Earthsea



United Kingdom
6428 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  06:29:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
True
but that goes across the board into every Industry,
and they are not on a Evil Strike like our Postmen.

Edited by - long time no see on 09/10/2007 06:29:29
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5305 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  07:19:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

True
but that goes across the board into every Industry,
and they are not on a Evil Strike like our Postmen.

Why evil LTNS? After all you did not reckon that eco terrorists that prevented people from going about their lawful business where evil. You in fact thought they were innocuous ... judging by your response to the thread raised by FUBAR

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Earthsea



United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/10/2007 :  07:35:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK,
5 Million Pounds
has been lost by small companys
that use Royal Mail.
Some of those Companys will go under
because due to even more Evil Strikes across all sections (next week).
Not every company can afford DHL etc,
it can make them lose money.


They have No Valid reason to strike.

Edited by - long time no see on 09/10/2007 07:35:49
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5305 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  07:37:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

They have No Valid reason to strike.

They haven't? So their managers have their pensions assured and the postal workers can go hang?

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Earthsea



United Kingdom
6428 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  07:41:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That can go right across ther board
into every UK Industry.
And No one Else is on a Evil Strike.

Edited by - long time no see on 09/10/2007 07:43:35
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5305 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  07:51:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

That can go right across ther board
into every UK Industry.
And No one Else is on a Evil Strike.


Which does not answer the question ... which was:
quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder

So their managers have their pensions assured and the postal workers can go hang?


"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Earthsea



United Kingdom
6428 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  08:04:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very few firms 'now' do Pensions,
not able to afford to do it.







Edited by - long time no see on 09/10/2007 08:22:29
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5305 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  08:27:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

Very few firms 'now' do Pensions,
not able to afford to do it.

That is as maybe ... Royal Mail however does do pensions, evidently and they have assured the pensions for the managers so, the question still stands LTNS ...

So their managers have their pensions assured and the postal workers can go hang?

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Earthsea



United Kingdom
6428 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  08:52:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Question will stand for ever.

They have No Funds for that venture.

Best thing to do now
is break Royal Mail up
because the Postmen are never going to have common ground.
And their strikes changes Nothing from now.


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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5305 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  08:57:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Royal Mail is a company that has been running for approximately 300 years. So ... how would you propose 'breaking up' the Royal Mail?

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Earthsea



United Kingdom
6428 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  09:06:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Plans are drawn up.
The whole market place is changing
even they change by Cutting Costs.

It is like some Mail now says on it TNT,
which Royal Mail delivers.
And the Rest TNT does.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5305 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  09:29:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

Plans are drawn up.
The whole market place is changing
even they change by Cutting Costs.

It is like some Mail now says on it TNT,
which Royal Mail delivers.
And the Rest TNT does.

So, in effect Royal Mail has already been 'broken up'. So how would you suggest we break it up any further?

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Earthsea



United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/10/2007 :  09:39:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No it has not,
because Royal Mail has a cut in that deal.

The plans to break it up
are not out, yet.

They have to change
by cutting costs.

More Post Offices
will be closed soon
as New Labour does not care about the Public Service they give to millions.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5305 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  10:01:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

More Post Offices
will be closed soon
as New Labour does not care about the Public Service they give to millions.

Excuse me? Are you saying that the government should subsidise post offices?

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Earthsea



United Kingdom
6428 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  10:10:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They are.
That is why they are closing many of them.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5305 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  10:27:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

They are.
That is why they are closing many of them.

So ... I repeat. Are you saying that the government should subsidise post offices?

Or let me put this more plainly ... are you saying that the government should subsidise a private company?

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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thedelboy
Discworld



United Kingdom
1068 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  10:33:56  Show Profile  Send thedelboy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I support the postal strike even though it niggles me that I have had no post(am waiting for my bday cardsmoney money money)if you have a contract and your employer breaks or tries to amend it then you have the right to react,bloudy hell the post "persons" go out in rain hail and snow,for a pittance if they finish thier round early due to being more diligent then let them go home (with pay)and if for some reason they have to do overtime then pay them a reasonable rate!Lt would you work for nothing?thought not

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Earthsea



United Kingdom
6428 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  12:32:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This ain't about Pay.
Del - you are wrong.

And Yes Miriam
pathetic Corrupt New Labour should pay for Post Offices to keep them going.
And use the Corrupt Iraq War Money for a better UK project.
Even fit them within Tesco Express stores
to keep them in the area.
Like the WH. Smiths -Post Offices co-deal.

Or More Votes they will never ever get.

Sign Of The Times.

Edited by - long time no see on 09/10/2007 12:35:35
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thedelboy
Discworld



United Kingdom
1068 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  12:38:21  Show Profile  Send thedelboy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Labour should re-nationalise the post office,it should become "royal mail again!the only people making money at the moment out of the post office are managers directors and share holders!!lets give it back the status it once had

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Earthsea



United Kingdom
6428 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  12:41:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Del Labour is dead.
They are now Warmonger NEW Labour- Neo Conservatives.

Edited by - long time no see on 09/10/2007 12:47:48
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Hambag
Barsoom



140 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  13:04:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am LTNS, I must say meaningless mantras. I am LTNS, I must say meaningless mantras. I am LTNS, I must say meaningless mantras. I am LTNS, I must say meaningless mantras. I am LTNS, I must say meaningless mantras etc...
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Earthsea



United Kingdom
6428 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  13:10:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Warmonger New Labour Mantra
is doing nothing to sort this mess out.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5305 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  13:13:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

And Yes Miriam
pathetic Corrupt New Labour should pay for Post Offices to keep them going.
And use the Corrupt Iraq War Money for a better UK project.
Even fit them within Tesco Express stores
to keep them in the area.
Like the WH. Smiths -Post Offices co-deal.
Sign Of The Times.

So you are saying that the Royal Mail should outsource post offices on the one hand and on the other that the government should subsidise the private company to outsource?

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6428 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  13:17:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In this current market place
it is all co-deals,
or gone forever.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5305 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  13:21:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

In this current market place
it is all co-deals,
or gone forever.

Which does not answer the question regarding how far the government should be expected to go in subsidising private companies.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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