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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/10/2007 : 13:25:40
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Even the BBC
has a Private Company side now.
You are in the past
if you do not know the current
market place. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5303 Posts |
 Posted - 09/10/2007 : 13:45:55
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Originally posted by long time no see
Even the BBC
has a Private Company side now.
You are in the past
if you do not know the current
market place.
So ... explain it to me oh font of all knowledge. Explain to me why it should be acceptable for the government to subsidise a private company. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6419 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2007 : 14:15:46
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5303 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2007 : 19:58:02
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
Because the Old Biddies Demand it.
So the current market place is because the 'Old Biddies' demand it? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6419 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2007 : 20:06:43
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No the Current Market Place is Downsize or go under.
Back to the Topic
The Strikes are still on
and many important mail in my humble opinion
my never get to people as thieves (which are allegedly in the Postmen network, sadly)
now get the best ever pickings.
(amended by livewire to avoid falling foul of the libel law) |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5303 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2007 : 20:22:54
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
No the Current Market Place is Downsize or go under.
I know, you said. You also said that I didn't understand so I've asked you to explain. Which I am still waiting for. Or can I assume that you haven't a clue of what you are talking about but just want to appear to be all knowing.
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
Back to the Topic
Which we were actually on until you decided to bring in 'Old Biddies' as thedelboy suggested renationalising, you claimed that it wasn't about pay and that the government should subsidise a private company to enable that private company to remain in profit whilst outsourcing their outlets.
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
and many important mail my never get to people as thieves (which are in the Postmen network, sadly)
now get the best ever pickings.
As for this last little gem of wisdom ... it is so ludicrous a statement that it isn't worth any response. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6419 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2007 : 20:28:49
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Getting your Passport stolen
can mess up a whole year.
There was a Docu on TV about
a gang that worked within the London offices
and they had many passports when arrested
and all the other missing passports had been sold on. |
Edited by - long time no see on 09/10/2007 20:30:29 |
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Daveb
Discworld
1889 Posts |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5303 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2007 : 20:43:47
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
Getting your Passport stolen
can mess up a whole year.
There was a Docu on TV about
a gang that worked within the London offices
and they had many passports when arrested
and all the other missing passports had been sold on.
And this is back on the topic of Postal Strikes? Or an aswer to the question regarding whether or not the government should be expected to subsidise a private company in the outsourcing of their primary outlets? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6419 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2007 : 21:05:47
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Do rant away,
of course that is to do with the Strikes,
bleedin' obvious. |
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thedelboy
Discworld
United Kingdom
1067 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2007 : 09:28:42
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Whoa there peeps time out |
keep on smiling |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5303 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2007 : 10:51:46
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
Do rant away,
of course that is to do with the Strikes,
bleedin' obvious.
That post goes missing is causal in calling the strikes? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5303 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2007 : 11:33:39
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
Do rant away,
of course that is to do with the Strikes,
bleedin' obvious.
And yet another whole thread devoted to LTNS' declarations without any back-up or explanation.
You do know that this isn't your 'blog' don't you LTNS? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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moon23
Calaspia
696 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2007 : 12:35:18
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I'm pleased these workers are fighting to save one of our public instutions. Private companies are cashing in on the mail infastructure and milking the system. Means poor old Royal Mail is forced to cut costs and bring in new unfriendly working practices.
Labour be acting to keep the postal system public, instead they are happy once again to pander to buisness and sell another british institution down the drain.
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6419 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2007 : 12:45:52
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quote:
Originally posted by moon23
I'm pleased these workers are fighting to save one of our public instutions. Private companies are cashing in on the mail infastructure and milking the system. Means poor old Royal Mail is forced to cut costs and bring in new unfriendly working practices.
Labour be acting to keep the postal system public, instead they are happy once again to pander to buisness and sell another british institution down the drain.
Yes Moon
New Labour are making Every company cut back,
Brown is the Neo ConservativeNew Labour corrupt leader. |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6419 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2007 : 19:39:30
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Ch4 News Live
just had New Labour's MP John Hutton.
John Snow said "it is state owned
why are You not helping in there."
Hutton
claims they have no plans to make it a Private Company?
He says this Strike must end
and they have ho reason to strike.
So, I would say,
it is a Downsize in every way.
Amazon have started doing some Home Deliveries by
Car drivers. Some at 5PM.
If amazon uk set this up in every deal
they will win all online orders for the next month or so.
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nightowl
Barsoom
249 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2007 : 19:43:25
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The key issue in this dispute remains the unacceptable cuts in postal services – cuts in postal jobs - and attacks on our members’ terms and conditions.
We say to the public the threat to the very future of your postal services is real.
Royal Mail’s plans include 40,000 job losses – later deliveries - reductions in collections – reductions in weekend service.
The closure of delivery offices and mail centres – and the destruction of the rural and crown office post office network.
The public know postal workers are decent people – they just want to get on with their jobs - but they really have had enough of the way they are being treated by Royal Mail.
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6419 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2007 : 19:48:31
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Sure Nightowl
but every Industry is doing the same.
The whole Nation would be on Strike
if they did not change?
But ONLY the Postal Workers are Striking.
The Sainsburys Boss,Today,
was proud to say he has
many Migrant workers.
This must be the Future?
It is like this country is not doing well
but New Labour claim it is,
not many Trust their spin.
Nightowl
do you think New Labour should sort this out?
They say it is down to the Managers,
they trust them more.
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nightowl
Barsoom
249 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2007 : 21:46:26
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British management is rubbish, they put profit before customer service, national interests, and whats right and just for all.
If left to commerce and business alone slavery would be back big time in this country
Governments are there to control and regulate business practises, but Labour have failed dismally as Northern Rock has demonstrated.
Brown has become one of the elite club that rules Britain, they may call themselves Labour, Tories, Lib Dems but they are all essentially of one beleif, why do you think he is courting Maggie? |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6419 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2007 : 22:57:10
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For sure Brown
is Neo Conservative.
And he will not deal with this Dispute.
What will be next?
Polish Mailmen! |
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FUBAR
Barsoom
391 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2007 : 09:03:21
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Slavery never left, they call it flexibility now though. As an employee you have to be flexible in your work methods, in other words do as your told and shut up. If you dare to have an opinion of your own you are just a trouble maker and got rid of. I put it down to when companies had "Personnel" departments but now they are called "HUMAN RESOURCES"which puts everyone in the same classification as a piece of paper. You are not a colleague or associate you are just a cog and when your not needed any more out you go. Company loyalty only goes one way, guess which......... |
I came into the world with nothing and still have most of it left.. |
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thedelboy
Discworld
United Kingdom
1067 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2007 : 10:13:06
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| asI have said I suppoert the postal workers,I would not work extra just to give the fat cats more prestige,by the way the next strike is pencilled in for tuesday |
keep on smiling |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6419 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2007 : 12:29:29
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Del
some are on un-official strikes
right now. |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6419 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2007 : 18:13:34
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From London ITV Local News
many postmen are on strike in London,
with no Union permission.
And now it is costing Small Business
5 Million pounds a day
because they can not afford the big DHL or TNT private post deals.
Brown is doing nothing, at present,
he has washed his hands of it,
Neo Conservative New Labour Thug he is.
FACT. |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5303 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2007 : 19:39:41
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the Communication Workers' Union had failed adequately to comply with legal requirements to state accurately the number of employees likely to be affected by the action.
And is this the sole reason for ruling the strike illegal? For failing to accurately state a number likely to be? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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nightowl
Barsoom
249 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2007 : 19:46:51
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| How long is a piece of string? This is just the state, status quo influencing the courts...... |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5303 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2007 : 20:07:38
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| I hope not Nightowl ... I think you may well be right but I sincerely hope you are wrong. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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FUBAR
Barsoom
391 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2007 : 20:14:14
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I wonder how far the PM will go in order to crush the workers revolt against his visions? Maybe he should make his visions a bit clearer to everyone.........
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I came into the world with nothing and still have most of it left.. |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6419 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2007 : 20:26:24
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Of course Brown stays right out of this.
The Courts take over
and on Monday they will try to Stop the
Wednesday Rolling Strike, if they are doing them, of course. |
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Postal Strike