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long time no see
Earthsea
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea

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Posted - 16/06/2007 : 07:58:37
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| I don't know ... this has the flavour of witch-hunting to me. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea

United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2007 : 09:11:51
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quote: Originally posted by Miriam Binder
I don't know ... this has the flavour of witch-hunting to me.
You are Very Wrong.
He is on the Sex Offenders List he should have not have gone on National TV, And the team that was mean't to check him failed - they Must be Sacked.
If Endemol ( Who also make over 70% of BBC shows) can check everyone so can Cowells team. FACT. |
Edited by - long time no see on 16/06/2007 09:16:16 |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea

United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/06/2007 : 09:31:46
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| LTNS ... like it or not, even sex offenders have talent, can perform, write, sing and dance ... But that is not the point so much really. Here you have a police officer who phones up a show to 'inform'. Don't get me wrong, I am fully aware that as the informed upon happens to be a 'sex-offender' - that nice emotive category - that most people will agree with the officer's actions. Me ... I look at the principle of 'informing'. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea

United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/06/2007 : 09:40:39
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What Principle is that?
He choose to go on National TV no one pushed him onto National TV.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea

United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/06/2007 : 10:01:08
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| A police officer phoning a production company. Not a police force but an officer ... |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea

United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2007 : 10:10:42
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quote: Originally posted by Miriam Binder
A police officer phoning a production company. Not a police force but an officer ...
Yes he did the right thing. He should get a better job soon in his Section.
You have to understand the victim of that Criminal could also be watching.
Your Morals are all wrong Miriam.
Sign Of The Times. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea

United Kingdom
6047 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2007 : 10:15:18
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| Yep! Of course LTNS ... it's my morals that are wrong. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea

United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2007 : 10:26:16
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quote: Originally posted by Miriam Binder
Yep! Of course LTNS ... it's my morals that are wrong.
Bang On they are. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea

United Kingdom
6047 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2007 : 10:34:50
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quote: Originally posted by long time no see
Bang On they are.
Sure they are ... |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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A Gold
Alagaësía

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Posted - 16/06/2007 : 14:47:06
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I agree with Miriam. Let them all out to become celebs & 'nuts' to the victims of these sickos |
Boycott Forfars & The Goldstone Retail Park,
GAGGED & BANNED
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Edited by - A Gold on 16/06/2007 14:47:54 |
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nightbird
Calaspia

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Posted - 16/06/2007 : 14:51:23
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quote: Originally posted by Miriam Binder
I don't know ... this has the flavour of witch-hunting to me.
Nothing like a good old fashioned witch hunt without intelligence being applied......... |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea

United Kingdom
6047 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2007 : 14:54:34
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| The issue isn't whether or not the victims are important, the issue is whether or not a police officer is acting appropriately phoning a production company. Note it is not the police force that phoned but a police officer. I wonder what the response would have bene had this been a member of the public who did not have the professional standing of a 'police officer'. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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A Gold
Alagaësía

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Posted - 16/06/2007 : 15:17:31
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I wonder what the response would have been if he'd won the competition, gained fame & fortune, struck again and possibly ruined another youngsters life & the policeman later admitted he knew of his past but elected to say nothing.
I say 'give the cop a medal'. |
Boycott Forfars & The Goldstone Retail Park,
GAGGED & BANNED
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long time no see
Earthsea

United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2007 : 15:35:02
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quote: Originally posted by A Gold
I wonder what the response would have been if he'd won the competition, gained fame & fortune, struck again and possibly ruined another youngsters life & the policeman later admitted he knew of his past but elected to say nothing.
I say 'give the cop a medal'.
Very True. Miriam is all confused about Her Morals. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea

United Kingdom
6047 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2007 : 16:00:02
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Yep LTNS ... its my morals
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"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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The Duke of Uranus
Barsoom

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Posted - 16/06/2007 : 16:45:00
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quote: Very True. Miriam is all confused about Her Morals.
Strange how you haven't complained about The Who playing at Glastonbury this year LT. |
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long time no see
Earthsea

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Miriam Binder
Earthsea

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6047 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2007 : 16:56:08
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quote: Originally posted by long time no see
No Victims of the Guitar player. Nothing like this Case.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2007/06/16/britain-s-got-pervert---89520-19305098/
Check the Link Duke.
Really? Oh, you mean those kids that got abused so that Pete could pay to see the images aren't victims then. |
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Daveb
Earthsea

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Posted - 16/06/2007 : 17:07:29
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There is no way I support this pervert but try this a train of thought.
Others have committed crimes and gone on to be celebs. Leslie Grantam, murder, if I am correct.
If people have served their punishment then should they not be free to pursue a career?
It could be said that the punishment is too soft and his life should have be taken or he should be locked up for ever.
I know what I would do with perverts who prey on kids! |
We're all doomed! Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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long time no see
Earthsea

United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2007 : 17:14:20
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quote: Originally posted by Miriam Binder Really? Oh, you mean those kids that got abused so that Pete could pay to see the images aren't victims then.
Not the same Crime. If it was the same crime he would be out of that band
The Who having nothing to do with this case so go back to your very confused Morals.
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Earthsea

United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/06/2007 : 17:18:35
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quote: Originally posted by Daveb
There is no way I support this pervert but try this a train of thought.
Others have committed crimes and gone on to be celebs. Leslie Grantam, murder, if I am correct.
If people have served their punishment then should they not be free to pursue a career?
It could be said that the punishment is too soft and his life should have be taken or he should be locked up for ever.
I know what I would do with perverts who prey on kids!
He did not tell the TV Company he was on the list. The Policeman that phoned in was trying to protect the victim. |
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The Duke of Uranus
Barsoom

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Posted - 16/06/2007 : 17:21:42
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quote: Not the same Crime. If it was the same crime he would be out of that band
Huh? Are you saying that because he only looked at images of children being abused that no one was hurt?
quote: The Who having nothing to do with this case
It has everything to do with this. Pete Townshend works in the entertainment business and he was convicted of child pornography offences. If you can't see any similarity I'd suggest that you are the one who's confused. Why not settle down and relax with a nice cup of 75p great value Greggs tea |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea

United Kingdom
6047 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2007 : 17:25:54
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quote: Originally posted by long time no see
Not the same Crime. If it was the same crime he would be out of that band
The Who having nothing to do with this case so go back to your very confused Morals.
Again my morals ... Pete Townshend did or did not view pay-per-view child pornography? He did? Then he is colluding with those that exploited those poor victims. The Who depend on Pete Townshend as a guitarist. They are therefore not going to kick him out of the band as that might mean they get fewer fans, They are therefore colluding with a pervert that colludes with the exploiters of sexual abuse child victims.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea

United Kingdom
6047 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2007 : 17:28:12
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quote: Originally posted by long time no see
He did not tell the TV Company he was on the list. The Policeman that phoned in was trying to protect the victim.
What victim was that policeman trying to protect? Was the programme going to engage in the sexual exploitation of minors? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea

United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2007 : 17:32:15
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quote: Originally posted by The Duke of Uranus
It has everything to do with this. Pete Townshend works in the entertainment business and he was convicted of child pornography offences. If you can't see any similarity
Yes and everyone knows about his Crime.
But the criminal on ITV did not tell anyone.
The Who are a big band you can not compare them with a Performing nobody. |
Edited by - long time no see on 16/06/2007 17:33:01 |
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long time no see
Earthsea

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Miriam Binder
Earthsea

United Kingdom
6047 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2007 : 17:35:05
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quote: Originally posted by long time no see
Yes and everyone knows about his Crime.
But the criminal on ITV did not tell anyone.
The Who are a big band you can not compare them with a Perfoming nobody.
Oh, I see ... so according to you provided you are not a nobody then its alright to be on the sex offenders list and still be billed. It is only if you are a nobody that you should be booted off a second rate talent show. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea

United Kingdom
6047 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2007 : 17:39:00
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quote: Originally posted by long time no see
quote: Originally posted by Miriam Binder What victim was that policeman trying to protect?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2007/06/16/britain-s-got-pervert---89520-19305098/
The 14 year old lad from this link. FACT.
Was that 14 year old on the show?
No, he was not ... that 14 year old is now a 17+ year old and I would hazard a guess that he has long gotten over having his feet tickled! |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
Edited by - Miriam Binder on 16/06/2007 17:41:27 |
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long time no see
Earthsea

United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2007 : 17:39:22
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quote: Originally posted by Miriam Binder
It is only if you are a nobody that you should be booted off a second rate talent show.
Again the Guitar player did not do the same crime.
If that Guitar player did he would have been convicted of that.
At least anyone who goes to that Band can find out about the members, Unlike the Error of this TV company. |
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nightbird
Calaspia

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Posted - 16/06/2007 : 17:40:39
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quote: Originally posted by long time no see
quote: Originally posted by Daveb
There is no way I support this pervert but try this a train of thought.
Others have committed crimes and gone on to be celebs. Leslie Grantam, murder, if I am correct.
If people have served their punishment then should they not be free to pursue a career?
It could be said that the punishment is too soft and his life should have be taken or he should be locked up for ever.
I know what I would do with perverts who prey on kids!
He did not tell the TV Company he was on the list. The Policeman that phoned in was trying to protect the victim.
LT he's not required to tell a prospective employer, but he is expected to inform the police if his job will bring him into contact with children or minors, I think you will find out he had, just one lone policeman with an axe to grind or a story to sell the tabloids me thinks.....
ASSAULTING A 14 YEAR OLD BOY
." Bates was in court three years ago in the Manchester area for tickling the youngster's feet".
Is this the best the tabloids can do!
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