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long time no see
Earthsea


United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 23/07/2007 :  08:50:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.guardian.co.uk/weather/Story/0,,2132621,00.html







Getting the Water Supply Flooded
has made people panic buying water.

Of course these Floods in some parts
could not be stopped.

Today New Labour do the House plans,
they will set out the big area's for massive housing projects.
It will include building on flood plains


Sign Of The Times.







Edited by - long time no see on 23/07/2007 08:57:39

nightbird
Calaspia



603 Posts

Posted - 23/07/2007 :  09:51:03  Show Profile  Send nightbird an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Nothing wrong in building on flood plains if your prepared to spend billions on barriers and storm drains which their not.
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moon23
Calaspia



841 Posts

Posted - 23/07/2007 :  11:51:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nightbird

Nothing wrong in building on flood plains if your prepared to spend billions on barriers and storm drains which their not.



Water has to go someone, you can have a new development with good flood defense on a Flood plane. The problem is that the river will just flood further down stream as the water is channled elsewhere. The might effect a poor village that never used to flood becuase in the past the water just flooded into low lying fields (which are now filled with Barret homes and protected against the water).

This is why the many new developments on our flood planes is causing such a problem.
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 23/07/2007 :  12:37:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Un-elected Brown passes the Buck
to the Dept in charge.
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nightbird
Calaspia



603 Posts

Posted - 23/07/2007 :  13:10:28  Show Profile  Send nightbird an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Just think Britain could look like Holland with thousands of windmill pumps to get rid of the water
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 23/07/2007 :  13:19:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For a time it may,
it is very hard for those that were due to go Holiday.
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moon23
Calaspia



841 Posts

Posted - 23/07/2007 :  17:18:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

Un-elected Brown passes the Buck
to the Dept in charge.



Well he has to delegate things to experts who deal with the areas.. unlike Blair who wanted to do it all himself.
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moon23
Calaspia



841 Posts

Posted - 23/07/2007 :  17:24:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Brown is elected as an MP. The way our parilment works means that you never get to elect a Prime Minister, this is unlike the US where you elected the president.

You also don't get to choose who the cabinent memebers are so really we don't have a very democractic form of governement
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Daveb
Earthsea



2420 Posts

Posted - 23/07/2007 :  20:58:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by moon23

Brown is elected as an MP. The way our parilment works means that you never get to elect a Prime Minister, this is unlike the US where you elected the president.

You also don't get to choose who the cabinent memebers are so really we don't have a very democractic form of governement



To true.
They get voted in on promises and policy then ignore that an do whatever they like.

We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you!
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 23/07/2007 :  21:55:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


Tewkesbury today
keeping the Pet Dog safe.



Abingdon, Oxfordshire.
Fire Service Checking the Old Folks.



Tewkwesbury
New Homes Site.


Sign Of The Times.
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nightbird
Calaspia



603 Posts

Posted - 23/07/2007 :  23:07:18  Show Profile  Send nightbird an AOL message  Reply with Quote
What are they going to build, a New Venice
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camelot
Barsoom



USA
379 Posts

Posted - 24/07/2007 :  04:14:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you are offered aid from the USA...perhaps you should decline this time....

JACKSON, Miss. - The Federal Emergency Management Agency will keep selling and donating surplus disaster-relief trailers despite concerns that they may have unhealthy levels of formaldehyde, the agency said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070723/ap_on_re_us/fema_toxic_trailers
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 24/07/2007 :  10:54:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


http://environment.independent.co.uk/climate_change/article2795635.ece
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6127 Posts

Posted - 24/07/2007 :  11:04:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What a load of emotive bull. Climate change is part and parcel of the cyclic weather pattern ...

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 24/07/2007 :  11:17:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes Bad Sewers Systems
never updated
are nothing to do with any climate change.

It is 10 years of New Labour
a wasted 10 years as well.
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moon23
Calaspia



841 Posts

Posted - 24/07/2007 :  11:40:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes it is a newspaper front page...
quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder

What a load of emotive bull. Climate change is part and parcel of the cyclic weather pattern ...



It's nearly impossible to attribute one single event to a general trend such as climate change. It's a bit like saying crime is on the increase and then pointing to a recent murder as an example of the trend. It is only when you look at many such events of a sustained period of time that the pattern emerges. There is some complex science and statistics behind climate change, which don't lend themselves to this kind of front page scare story.

In my opinion attributing such events to climate change is an over-reaction. However many people now attribute any such weather to climate change and people often talk about how the weather has changed since they were young. I guess it is easier for people to grasp onto tangible events like the floods to explain climate change because the statistic and science is often so confusing.


Edited by - moon23 on 24/07/2007 11:42:27
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nightbird
Calaspia



603 Posts

Posted - 24/07/2007 :  12:30:48  Show Profile  Send nightbird an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Been some reports of profiteering going on in the flood areas, £5 for a loaf of bread.
Hope the police jump on this if true, disgusting......
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6127 Posts

Posted - 24/07/2007 :  12:36:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

Yes Bad Sewers Systems
never updated
are nothing to do with any climate change.

It is 10 years of New Labour
a wasted 10 years as well.

Are you saying that before Labour took over that the sewers were fine?

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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moon23
Calaspia



841 Posts

Posted - 24/07/2007 :  13:21:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nightbird

Been some reports of profiteering going on in the flood areas, £5 for a loaf of bread.
Hope the police jump on this if true, disgusting......



This is capitalist supply and demand..
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 24/07/2007 :  13:49:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder

quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

Yes Bad Sewers Systems
never updated
are nothing to do with any climate change.

It is 10 years of New Labour
a wasted 10 years as well.

Are you saying that before Labour took over that the sewers were fine?




Everbody knows full well New Labour has had 10 years
wasted.

New homes built under New Labour
Sewers left as water companys made millions under Neo Con Blair.


Of course you can go back before 10 years
but that is too far back now.

New Labour Neo Conservative
were told some years back about the sewers
but still the Water companys made billions.
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Control Panel
Discworld



1246 Posts

Posted - 24/07/2007 :  16:48:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have any branches of Greggs suffered in al lthis?
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 24/07/2007 :  18:21:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


4x4 cars get through,
of course.



Public Toilet
going under the water in Tenbury ,today.



West Oxford Community Area
Today.

Edited by - long time no see on 24/07/2007 18:27:24
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Daveb
Earthsea



2420 Posts

Posted - 24/07/2007 :  20:15:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Of course these areas have never flooded before?
Not all if them anyway.
Strange how in some of photos shown the church is on the highest ground!

I am not saying the climate isn't changing but this and worse has all happened before and will happen again.

This is a once in lifetime occurance in some areas.
It will never have a contingency plan.
If there was one it would have been shelved years ago to save money.

Long before New Labour.
May have even been Old Labour or Tories or Whigs come to that.

We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you!
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 24/07/2007 :  20:31:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes it will happen again,
but why is Un Elected Brown
not doing enough.

The Red Cross is doing more than he is.


Use the Army more
to get Food and Water for Every Old person in trouble.

Edited by - long time no see on 24/07/2007 20:33:01
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Daveb
Earthsea



2420 Posts

Posted - 24/07/2007 :  21:33:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What army?

We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you!
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6127 Posts

Posted - 24/07/2007 :  21:40:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Exactly .... methinks LTNS has forgotten that the armed forces are now at their last knockings with reserves being dangerously low.

Cue LTNS 10 Years of corrupt Stinking New Labour with Unelected Brown

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 24/07/2007 :  21:47:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Daveb

What army?




Good point.

There are , however,
some Army that are still in the UK.
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Daveb
Earthsea



2420 Posts

Posted - 24/07/2007 :  21:54:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes but Not a Lot.
This is what the Territorials would be ideal for.

Do not forget though they may also be underwater.

We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you!
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 25/07/2007 :  10:55:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote



http://environment.independent.co.uk/climate_change/article2798519.ece
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FUBAR
Barsoom



431 Posts

Posted - 25/07/2007 :  11:19:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The town is flooded, there are no clean drinking water supplies or food and people are STILL in a hotel? I mean stiff upper lip sort of thing but how much of a hint do you need that your holiday is over.......

I came into the world with nothing and still have most of it left..
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 25/07/2007 :  19:40:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


Bridge in Evesham
yesterday.
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