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Control Panel
Discworld
1211 Posts |
 Posted - 12/04/2007 : 12:45:54
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In today's Argus the LibDems make the bizarre claim that they hope to get nine seats.
They will be lucky to keep two.
And they are worried about those two.They have got out a leaflet in Brunswick which says "in this ward it's a fight between the Liberal Democrats and Labour - a vote for sany other party will just let in Labour".
This is nonsense. Labour is not pushing Brunswick in exchange for the LibDems making a bit of an effiort in Queen's Park to try to draw off Green votes.
In fact in Brunswick the LibDems are getting alarmed by the Conservatives.
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FG1
Alagaësía
Wallis and Futuna Islands
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Posted - 12/04/2007 : 17:45:57
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Watch out , Heather James is campaigning in Wish. Rang my bell just now and said she used to be my councillor. "Oh," I said " Karis ".
"No," she said ,"Labour".
What's the difference? |
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Captain Hawkeye
Barsoom
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 12/04/2007 : 18:10:30
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Originally posted by Control Panel
In today's Argus the LibDems make the bizarre claim that they hope to get nine seats.
They will be lucky to keep two.
And they are worried about those two.They have got out a leaflet in Brunswick which says "in this ward it's a fight between the Liberal Democrats and Labour - a vote for sany other party will just let in Labour".
This is nonsense. Labour is not pushing Brunswick in exchange for the LibDems making a bit of an effiort in Queen's Park to try to draw off Green votes.
In fact in Brunswick the LibDems are getting alarmed by the Conservatives.
In the past following low turnouts at local elections, we have seen plenty of hand wringing along with comments about improving local democracy. Such arrangements as indicated above make a mockery of this and are a disgrace. Not something for anybody with a shred of respectability. |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1211 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2007 : 21:20:10
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There are more Independent candidates in Goldsmid than there are Brighton and Hove Independents - and that is the ward of the B and H Independents' leader!
And there are more Independents all told than there are Brighton and Hove Independents.
It's just like Duck Soup - with Anne Giebler in the Margaret Dumont role. |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1211 Posts |
Posted - 13/04/2007 : 18:36:05
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The LibDems are playing fast and loose with the city's geography.
The leaflet which they are putting out in East Brighton features a photograph of Brunswick Square... |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/04/2007 : 18:38:04
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"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1211 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2007 : 09:21:36
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| Ken Bodfish is in a dilemma. Now that he is living in Preston Park, does he grit his teeth and vote for Labour rebel Kevin Allen? Of course Allen defied expectations by getting in when sent there as punishment by Lord Bassam for opposing his scheme for a directly-elected mayor. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5805 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2007 : 09:26:01
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You mean he has moved out of Delia Forester's glorified shed? When did that happen?
Kevin Alan is one of the few decent councillors around. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
Edited by - Miriam Binder on 14/04/2007 09:27:24 |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1211 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2007 : 10:10:32
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Delia gets mighty miffed when this keeps getting described as a shed.
She likes to think of it as her studio. Perhaps she can now go back to the drawing board (something that might be said of the whole Labour party). |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5805 Posts |
 Posted - 14/04/2007 : 10:13:38
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Oops sorry Delia, I'm sure ... Oh and happy drafting  |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1211 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2007 : 13:15:35
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| There is a grovelling interview with the Council's chief executive Alan McCarthy in today's Argus but it does not raise the question of what will become of such New Labour officers if the Council changes shape in May. |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1211 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2007 : 20:32:55
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It turns out that Labour is only putting up candidates in 60% of seats in local elections this time, and can't find candidates for some that it would like to have contested.
What does that betoken for Brighton and Hove? |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
1292 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2007 : 20:38:01
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| Are there any debates going on in wards where residents can see the candidates together and ask questions of them all? |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5805 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2007 : 20:50:10
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Originally posted by Control Panel
There is a grovelling interview with the Council's chief executive Alan McCarthy in today's Argus but it does not raise the question of what will become of such New Labour officers if the Council changes shape in May.
I can't find it ... could you please provide a link? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1211 Posts |
Posted - 15/04/2007 : 08:54:03
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| There is not yet a link, seems that on Satyurdays there is only a printed one. Argus archive now erratic a matter of "selected" items. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5805 Posts |
Posted - 15/04/2007 : 09:03:47
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| Oh well, thanks for looking ... I'll try again tomorrow and failing that, maybe someone will be kind enough to scan it in. If not, well c'est la vie. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Pelagia
Barsoom
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Posted - 15/04/2007 : 15:20:29
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Originally posted by Control Panel
It turns out that Labour is only putting up candidates in 60% of seats in local elections this time, and can't find candidates for some that it would like to have contested.
What does that betoken for Brighton and Hove?
Is this why Fitch was (allegedly) behind the stitching up of Peter Willows? |
Edited by - Pelagia on 15/04/2007 19:20:47 |
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flaming pie
Alagaësía
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Posted - 15/04/2007 : 17:20:20
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Originally posted by Control Panel
It turns out that Labour is only putting up candidates in 60% of seats in local elections this time, and can't find candidates for some that it would like to have contested.
What does that betoken for Brighton and Hove?
According to the published list - labour and tories are contesting all seats. |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1211 Posts |
Posted - 15/04/2007 : 17:52:50
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Yes, but if in general Labour is only contesting 60% of seats, that does not suggest a position of strength.
Over at the e-democracy forum Joyce Edmond-Smith sounds very defensive. She knows that the Greens are on her tail in Hanover.
Indeed, her, Kevin Allen and perhaps Mo Marsh are the only Labour candidates worth voting for, I should have thought.
But if if voting for them, that brings the Labour numbers up, then perhaps that is too high a price for having them on the Council. Which is a shame. But it goes to show that Labour has some real thinking to do. |
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Observer
Alagaësía
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Posted - 15/04/2007 : 20:24:03
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The majority of councillors, of all parties, do a reasonable job in their wards and no doubt most will be re-elected. Joyce Edmond-smith for example, was in the same position 4 years ago and won because of her record in the old Hanover ward.
It needed to be clarified that the 60% of seats contested by Labour is a national figure (or perhaps a Sussex one Panel?). There are wards in Eastbourne for example where there is never a Lab candidate, just as in Birmingham, Liverpool etc you can find wards where there's no Tory candidate. |
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Joe Bloggs
Alagaësía
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Posted - 15/04/2007 : 20:58:51
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The interesting thing is people are now prepared to the independents because the so called major parties have proved themselves to be shameless on issue after issue.
The Officers will get a serious kick in the 'arris as well if a few Independents turn up in the Chamber come May. |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1211 Posts |
Posted - 15/04/2007 : 21:01:12
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The Conservatives are contesting 88% of seats.
If, as Observer states, most councillors keep their seats, then nothing would change. Councillors lost their seats last time to the Greens... And so it goes.
And there is the matter of Iraq and Blair and Brown...
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birdy
Alagaësía
United Kingdom
81 Posts |
Posted - 15/04/2007 : 22:15:01
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Originally posted by FG1
Watch out , Heather James is campaigning in Wish. Rang my bell just now and said she used to be my councillor. "Oh," I said " Karis ".
"No," she said ,"Labour".
What's the difference?
exactly,well done. |
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flaming pie
Alagaësía
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Posted - 15/04/2007 : 23:44:15
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In Brighton and Hove (and Portslade - where is Buss Pass??) Labour are contesting every seat - i think that that is 100%.
Life in the garden shed. |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
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Pelagia
Barsoom
479 Posts |
Posted - 16/04/2007 : 12:05:43
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| Rumour has it that if Cllr Paul "Violet Elizabeth" Elgood is not re-elected, he will stamp his feet and thcream and thcream until he is thick! |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5805 Posts |
Posted - 16/04/2007 : 12:08:20
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"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1211 Posts |
Posted - 16/04/2007 : 19:45:30
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Does the telephone canvassing system - before the Election itself - explain some of the curious nature of the parties' current activity?
Of course, the wild cards among the non-party candidates could upset some of the predictions made by the professional firms hired to work the phones.
And that is all to the good. Politics should be a matter of engaging the public on the streets. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5805 Posts |
Posted - 16/04/2007 : 20:05:27
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Originally posted by Control Panel
Politics should be a matter of engaging the public on the streets.
Or on the barricades 
Gosh I miss Moon  |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1211 Posts |
Posted - 17/04/2007 : 09:34:20
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| Last time it was an all-postal ballot. How it a return to the poll-booth decide the result this time? Perhaps it will make it wasier for parties to take a shotgun to their apparent supporters' heads and drive them to the polling station? Then again, that is all on one day rather than over several days' trips to the Electoral Reform Society to see where the votes are coming from. |
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May local elections