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flaming pie
Alagaësía
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 Posted - 17/04/2007 : 10:43:01
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Originally posted by Control Panel
Last time it was an all-postal ballot. How it a return to the poll-booth decide the result this time? Perhaps it will make it wasier for parties to take a shotgun to their apparent supporters' heads and drive them to the polling station? Then again, that is all on one day rather than over several days' trips to the Electoral Reform Society to see where the votes are coming from.
I missed turning up and actually casting my vote last time - it didn't seem right doing it by post. |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1213 Posts |
Posted - 17/04/2007 : 12:02:41
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Yes, it makes it more dramatic to have it all happening on the day (while the postal votes wait like a time-bomb on one side...).
But, for all the turbulence in the shape of the Council, does it not all seem a bit low-key right now? |
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Captain Hawkeye
Barsoom
United Kingdom
391 Posts |
Posted - 17/04/2007 : 13:24:55
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Originally posted by Control Panel
Yes, it makes it more dramatic to have it all happening on the day (while the postal votes wait like a time-bomb on one side...).
But, for all the turbulence in the shape of the Council, does it not all seem a bit low-key right now?
Yes rather low key and in some areas nothing happening.
How many people in the City not posting on this forum even know about May 3rd.
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Control Panel
Discworld
1213 Posts |
Posted - 17/04/2007 : 15:09:23
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| Weird leaflet going out in Goldsmid where the LibDems with Bob Bailey claim a swing to them. Why have they put him up as a candidate? |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1213 Posts |
Posted - 17/04/2007 : 15:16:46
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| How many wards will have Councillors from different parties? Signs that it's going that way in some of them. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5821 Posts |
Posted - 17/04/2007 : 18:14:21
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HA! ... just heard a good one I thought worth sharing, especially on this thread ...
Both politicians and nappies should be changed regularly and for the same reasons. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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flaming pie
Alagaësía
90 Posts |
Posted - 17/04/2007 : 19:29:54
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Originally posted by Miriam Binder
HA! ... just heard a good one I thought worth sharing, especially on this thread ...
Both politicians and nappies should be changed regularly and for the same reasons.
You are SO naughty Mims.
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theclan
Alagaësía
10 Posts |
Posted - 18/04/2007 : 09:50:52
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I have decided that I will be splitting my vote between three parties in May. I have never done this before, and I don't know whether it is a good thing or an indication that something has gone wrong in local party politics.
I just SO hope that Hawkeye gets a proper trouncing. She has been in politics too long and it has addled her brain and removed her conscience.
What a grumpy mood I am in today - but your joke cheered me up Miriam |
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Joe Bloggs
Alagaësía
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Posted - 18/04/2007 : 10:08:15
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You're not wrong Miriam, you're not wrong.
Dump the Dump are putting up 3 Independent candidates to fight the main parties locally and the disgraceful decision (one of many) reached. I firmly believe now the best thing we can all do is vote for any independent candidate standing because the so called major parties have the lost plot completely. |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1213 Posts |
Posted - 19/04/2007 : 00:08:34
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General opinion seems to be that it will be another hung Council.
Tories should be a bit ahead but they seem unwilling to put in the effort to secure a majority.
Very strange. |
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Martha Gunn
Barsoom
225 Posts |
Posted - 19/04/2007 : 17:05:23
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Originally posted by Control Panel
General opinion seems to be that it will be another hung Council.
Tories should be a bit ahead but they seem unwilling to put in the effort to secure a majority.
Very strange.
Yes, and as with your previous post it all does seem very low key? Brighton & Hove seems to be sleepwalking into 4 more years of exactly the same.
I've had nothing through my door about the Brighton & Hove elections from any party but, then again, I live in a mud-hut in Somalia so get very little post anyway. |
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Captain Hawkeye
Barsoom
United Kingdom
391 Posts |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1213 Posts |
Posted - 19/04/2007 : 20:33:19
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There is the most peculiar leaflet put out by Anne Giebeler who with somebody else is contesting two of the three seats in Goldsmid as an Independent.
In a most unusual political initiative, she lists all her failures the past four years. Goes on about a train-cleaning rail at the Station!
And, even more weirdly, she lists the petitions she has handed in, as if she has collected all the names rather than left it to residents to do that legwork, after which she simply has to give the thing in, no sweat. |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1213 Posts |
Posted - 19/04/2007 : 20:41:38
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posted by Captain Hawkeye quote:
How has everyone been enjoying the insight and in depth coverage of each Ward in our popular local newspaper.
Am I seeing things, or does the Argus have same candidate standing for the LibDems and Labour - Matthew Barker - in that report about Hanover?
Everybody knows that Labour and the LibDems are in bed together but they could have made it a bit more subtle than that.
On that topic, it is odd that the LibDems' leaflets in several wards say that to vote LibDem will "send a message to Tony Blair". Indeed. Blair will understand that message to mean that Labour can rely on the LibDems' support in Brighton and Hove.
The LibDems need get rid of David Watkins and Paul Elgood, and put the Party on a fresh footing if it is to have any credibility. |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1213 Posts |
Posted - 19/04/2007 : 20:51:02
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How on earth can the Argus say of Brunswick that "The Greens also hope to take the seat, with Hazel Ellison and Phelim MacCafferty".
The Greens are not working the ward.
And that article, which does not detail the way Brunswick has swung over the years, makes no mention of the candidate Brian Ralfe.
The Argus has lost any political insight. The articles linked by Captain Hawkeye have no credence. They are certainly not something to make me start buying the Argus again. |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1213 Posts |
Posted - 19/04/2007 : 20:56:49
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I have looked again, and - right now - the Argus does have Matthew Barker standing for both the LibDems and Labour in Hanover.
In fact, he is standing only for the LibDems.
Freud, thou shouldst be living at this hour! |
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Control Panel
Discworld
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Control Panel
Discworld
1213 Posts |
Posted - 20/04/2007 : 09:15:40
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News is coming through that there could be problems at the count with the software for dealing with the postal votes. Incompatability problems. Typical Government computer mess (see NHS...).
Could there be disputes, and a delay in the overall result? |
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Tombstone Blues
Earthsea
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Posted - 20/04/2007 : 09:46:29
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Originally posted by Control Panel
It is not only Labour that the LibDems are propping up.
Over in Darlington the leader has been suspended for signing the nomination papers of the BNP candidate.
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article2465963.ece
How the hell did he manage to do that 'by mistake'? |
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Tombstone Blues
Earthsea
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5821 Posts |
Posted - 20/04/2007 : 09:54:15
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| Well, I certainly would not want to be represented by a councillor who is prepared to sign papers without knowing what they contain. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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flaming pie
Alagaësía
90 Posts |
Posted - 20/04/2007 : 10:24:18
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Originally posted by Control Panel
News is coming through that there could be problems at the count with the software for dealing with the postal votes. Incompatability problems. Typical Government computer mess (see NHS...).
Could there be disputes, and a delay in the overall result?
Do you have a link to that, and what software do they use - apart from a cushion to sit on.
I thought they took the votes out of the envelopes, and then counted them. |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1213 Posts |
Posted - 20/04/2007 : 11:52:53
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On the radio.
It is all to do with the vexed matter of the postal votes. Scanning and checking.
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Control Panel
Discworld
1213 Posts |
Posted - 20/04/2007 : 14:02:42
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I see that the Argus has today corrected its weird report yesterday in which Matthew Barker was apparently standing for both the LibDems and Labour.
Today's piece makes a better shot of two wards in which there are independent candidates who could reflect rather more than a ripple of dissent. |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1213 Posts |
Posted - 20/04/2007 : 14:10:40
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Here is a link to a report about the dodgy software and the postal votes. This explains the count being held the next day. more money wasted.
This overnight wait of course brings with it concern about the guarding of the ballot-boxes. Who maintains the necessary vigil?
http://society.guardian.co.uk/localgovt/story/0,,2043797,00.html |
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Denise
Barsoom
129 Posts |
Posted - 20/04/2007 : 16:14:14
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Originally posted by Martha Gunn
quote:
Originally posted by Control Panel
General opinion seems to be that it will be another hung Council.
Tories should be a bit ahead but they seem unwilling to put in the effort to secure a majority.
Very strange.
Yes, and as with your previous post it all does seem very low key? Brighton & Hove seems to be sleepwalking into 4 more years of exactly the same.
I've had nothing through my door about the Brighton & Hove elections from any party but, then again, I live in a mud-hut in Somalia so get very little post anyway.
It's the same here, Martha.
Indifference is at fever pitch. |
Voice of Reason / Norfolk Unity |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1213 Posts |
Posted - 20/04/2007 : 19:57:21
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This is very encouraging. It shows what proper LibDems can achieve - very different from that posturing pair down in Brunswick who are an embarrassment to their party. What does Labour have on them?
Well done to the people making efforts to unseat them.
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/foi/story/0,,2061969,00.html |
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Perfidia
Alagaësía
United Kingdom
41 Posts |
Posted - 20/04/2007 : 20:15:10
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Originally posted by Tombstone Blues
How the hell did he manage to do that 'by mistake'?
With difficulty. Nomination papers show quite clearly who the candidate is and what party, if any, they are standing for. Underneath this is the section for proposer, seconder and assenters. Only a complete eejit would sign a blank form so this chap is guilty on two fronts - he's either a complete eejit or a liar. Neither qualities being desirable in a local councillor. |
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Perfidia
Alagaësía
United Kingdom
41 Posts |
Posted - 20/04/2007 : 20:15:56
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I'm now in Eeejits Corner myself since the server failed when posting the last message and two of 'em arrived!
But of postal voting, while I'm no Luddite in these matters, I still feel the whole system is wide open to abuse. Add in the inevitable systems failures and I can't help but think the electoral process becomes ever more flawed. |
Edited by - Perfidia on 20/04/2007 20:23:35 |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1213 Posts |
Posted - 21/04/2007 : 13:30:31
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More uproar in Hangleton.
Brian Fitch has put out a leaflet in the Council houses and flats which claims - most untruthfully - that the Conservatives will have the council-house decision called in for review. And that's rich coming from a Labour party which wanted to flog them off.
Fitch has already had a warning letter: he is not to remove other parties' posters.
All this suggests that Labour feels vulnerable there. |
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May local elections
Posted - 19/04/2007 : 18:44:04