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moon23
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Posted - 15/08/2007 : 13:22:09
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Climate Camp Tuesday 14th - Personal Report
happy camping | 15.08.2007 00:43 | Climate Camp 2007 | Climate Chaos | London
Today was the first public day of the Camp for Climate Action just outside Heathrow. It also saw the early morning arival of some high winds and heavy rain. Undeterred more people have been arriving at the site throughout the day, with police stop and searches being at a much reduced level.
At lunchtime a press conference was held outside the main marquee at the camp, attended by a wide range of mainstream media both from the uk and other countries.
Several campers spoke at the press conference declaring the camp open for a week of learning about climate change, the science and politics behind it and possible solutions to it.
Time was also taken to denounce yesterday's Evening Standard article which claimed people from the camp were intending to send hoax suspicious packages to Heathrow as downright lies. They said the camp expects to have critical coverage and to be challenged in the media, especially as the camp has become such a large story, but they said that such blatant lies as featured in the Evening Standard are not acceptable. They also said that a complaint was being lodged with the Press Complaints Commission.
The press conference then went on to answer questions from the assemled media in front of the cameras.
Many of the questions centred on the day of action planned for Sunday / Monday and in particular reports that people from the camp were asking protestors to bring, or come wearing, suits or cabin crew uniforms. In response to this it was explained that there was indeed a group making cabin crew uniforms, but these were of a theatrical nature for use by a theatre group more akin to can can dancers who were planning on singing songs and dancing to make their protest!
Time and time again it was stressed that the protests and actions on sunday are not to target passengers, but the corporations and government who are the real climate criminals, and that any action would be safe and peaceful and not target the runways.
Later in the afternoon the main welcome meeting of the camp took place with over 250 people sat in a giant circle inside the main marquee. The meeting ran through all the introductory talks for the camp, including how the camp is split into neighbourhoods with their own kitchens, how decisions are made, how to use the compost toilets, how to get involved and all the plethora of info that's needed to navigate your way through the temporary eco-village for the coming week.
Following the welcome meeting the first set of workshops took place including "Two Degree Timebomb" by Mark Lynas and "Aviation: The Need to Stop Expansion" with people from Airportwatch and local group HACAN. There were also practical workshops aimed at making the camp run more smoothly with sessions on facilitation and consensus decision making as well as several other workshops.
There was also many day visitors to the camp including local councillors who this afternoon were treated to a guided tour that took in the compost toilets and an impromptu workshop on grey water recylcling systems (several of which are being built for the kitchens onsite).
Generally the camp is working well. Lots of people who have never been involved with this kind of campaigning have pitched in and started helping out with most of the major jobs that need doing to run the site getting done through people just volunteering to do whatever needs doing. And the food so far has been excellent.
Despite the spell of terrible weather and the police obstruction in the set up phase the camp is well and truly underway.
Later in the evening there was an incident with police coming onto the camp site in a tight phalanx of 25plus which resulted in a large crowd of campers obstructing their progress, holding their hands in the air chanting "Police Out!" - as people slowly pushed the police back they lashed out at those at the front.
They withdrew to just outside the rope barrier which marks the edge of the campsite in the field as people cheered. At the same time riot police in full gear with helmets arrived quickly at the western gate into the field that the camp is on, and a woman from the camp superglued her hands to the gate in an effort to prevent them entering the site - in her own words attempting to "de-escalate the situation". Mainstream media where no where to be seen, their outside broadcast trucks that have been present for several days having moved from the road outside the camp.
There was a short standoff as police blocked all access to the lane that leads to the camp, even preventing members of the press heading to the camp to cover the incident. Access was re-opened just as the woman was removed from the gate and senior police officers had entered the camp for an escorted tour around site where they reportedly said the incursion was not sanctioned by them.
Most people I spoke to said the incident was a blatant attempt by sections of the police to provoke a reaction, to incite some trouble. It didn't work. |
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Daveb
Earthsea
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Posted - 15/08/2007 : 13:28:56
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| Now they are all rounded up in field, lets bomb the blighters! |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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moon23
Calaspia
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 Posted - 15/08/2007 : 13:38:24
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Originally posted by Daveb
Now they are all rounded up in field, lets bomb the blighters!
People like you will soon be in the minority as more and more wake up and see what our current life styles are doing to the planet. |
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Daveb
Earthsea
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Posted - 15/08/2007 : 13:49:47
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My views on flying may not differ so much from yours.
I may have different views on what this demonstration achieves. |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
Edited by - Daveb on 15/08/2007 13:50:05 |
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moon23
Calaspia
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Posted - 15/08/2007 : 13:57:09
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quote:
Originally posted by Daveb
My views on flying may not differ so much from yours.
I may have different views on what this demonstration achieves.
Well the bombing of protesters seems a tad harsh even if you do disagree with them, but it is good news that you have sound views on flying. |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15/08/2007 : 15:35:20
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quote:
Originally posted by Daveb
Now they are all rounded up in field, lets bomb the blighters!
Yes bomb them with Flour. |
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Daveb
Earthsea
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Posted - 15/08/2007 : 15:44:56
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| A high concentration of fine flour and naked flame should make quite a good explosion! |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15/08/2007 : 15:47:30
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The Duke of Uranus
Barsoom
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Posted - 15/08/2007 : 15:51:28
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Originally posted by long time no see
Heathrow.
You're not seriously telling me they are actually going to have bath. Well, if they do, at least some good has come out of this. |
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moon23
Calaspia
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Posted - 15/08/2007 : 16:19:11
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| I'm sure they like to keep themselves clean just like most people do. |
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The Duke of Uranus
Barsoom
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Posted - 15/08/2007 : 17:27:39
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I'm sure they like to keep themselves clean just like most people do.
Yes, that would be why nobody bought a bath and they resorted to pulling one from a skip. |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15/08/2007 : 17:47:03
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Originally posted by The Duke of Uranus
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I'm sure they like to keep themselves clean just like most people do.
Yes, that would be why nobody bought a bath and they resorted to pulling one from a skip.
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15/08/2007 : 17:48:30
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Originally posted by Tombstone Blues
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Originally posted by thedelboy
all this global warming is scaremongering from dumb assholes who know fuck all!!fact every hundred years or so we get abnormal weather patterns,Scientists have also stated that the ozone layer is repairing itself!!so stop the bollocks,eco friendly?another bulshit name to try to screw more money from motorists travellers etc!FACT most of the so called ECo warriors travel and live in crappy old busses that spew out more in emmisions than a new bloudy rolls royce(wish Concorde was back as I had a couple of enjoyable flight on that)
http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article2864214.ece
Another group of 'dumb assholes who know fuck all' ?
Yes they are Never Ending. |
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moon23
Calaspia
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Posted - 16/08/2007 : 09:01:49
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Originally posted by The Duke of Uranus
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I'm sure they like to keep themselves clean just like most people do.
Yes, that would be why nobody bought a bath and they resorted to pulling one from a skip.
Many arrived on Public transport so it was probaly hard to carry a bath tub. They might be being used for recycling grey water, or maybe someone did bring some in a van.
How do you know they were taken from a skip? |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/08/2007 : 09:05:55
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| Recycling? What's wrong with that ... shows concern for the environment don't it? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/08/2007 : 09:12:13
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Yes they have Concern
but it is also a gathering of political people
which is why the Police Photograph them all.
Sign Of The Times. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
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Posted - 16/08/2007 : 09:38:39
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Originally posted by long time no see
Yes they have Concern
but it is also a gathering of political people
which is why the Police Photograph them all.
Sign Of The Times.
It is an indication of our times that the police find it necessary to photograph people just because they are political. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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The Duke of Uranus
Barsoom
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Posted - 16/08/2007 : 09:55:00
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Yes, the police have to protect their delicate noses from stinking protesters. |
Edited by - The Duke of Uranus on 16/08/2007 12:19:06 |
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moon23
Calaspia
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Posted - 16/08/2007 : 10:00:14
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quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
Yes they have Concern
but it is also a gathering of political people
which is why the Police Photograph them all.
Sign Of The Times.
It is an indication of our times that the police find it necessary to photograph people just because they are political.
Yes they are special Metropolitan Police Service’s Forward Intelligence Teams (FIT). They often pose as members of the public and ask questions to try and gain information. Sometimes they follow individuals who they perceive as leaders or organizers about, taking hundreds of photo's of them and filming them whilst taking notes.
They also use intimidation by letting people know they have their personal details e.g. first name, where they live etc. even when they have never meet them before - Sometimes they wait outside people's houses if they suspect they are about to head off to a protest. This is done to show they know who the protesters are and that they are 'watching them'.
It's not just the more active protesters who are targeted but also local residents who come along will find themselves under the surveillance gaze. This is often a very frighten experience for members of the public who have never seen the police act in this way before.
It's a really sorry state for democracy when so many people are put off exercising their democratic right to protest because of the excessive and invasive police surveillance of the public.
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/08/2007 : 10:57:38
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Originally posted by Miriam Binder
It is an indication of our times that the police find it necessary to photograph people just because they are political.
It Bloody Well Is.
FACT. |
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moon23
Calaspia
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Posted - 16/08/2007 : 11:22:53
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Super-rich who fly in luxury jets are being targeted with Direct action. The Heathow camp says it will not target passengers in this way, lets hope they don't as there would be a media backlash that would damage the cause.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6949056.stm
Better to focus on the corporate offices of BAA, than people having their summer hollidays. Punish the infastructure of the buisness behind the airport industry is better than annoying indivdual's who are going on their holliday.
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/08/2007 : 13:09:42
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If Only Miriam would look at the post above this
that Photo is from the BBC Link
Moon Posted.
She just comes on here to have a Moan.
Sad. |
Edited by - long time no see on 16/08/2007 18:56:51 |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
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Posted - 16/08/2007 : 13:30:07
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Originally posted by long time no see
Just so as you can make sense of the image so thoughtfully provided by LTNS
Protesters arrested at Biggin Hill airport |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/08/2007 : 14:24:30
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moon23
Calaspia
841 Posts |
Posted - 16/08/2007 : 14:25:10
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quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
Just so as you can make sense of the image so thoughtfully provided by LTNS
Protesters arrested at Biggin Hill airport
Here is the Indymedia story |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 16/08/2007 : 15:11:47
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The Bog
is straw
so it ends up as compost for something? |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/08/2007 : 15:15:21
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| Mushrooms! Bon Appetite! |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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moon23
Calaspia
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Posted - 16/08/2007 : 16:47:07
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| Yes eco toilets which don't waste lot's of clean water and give nutrients back to the earth. As mim says yummy poo mushrooms. |
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The Duke of Uranus
Barsoom
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Posted - 16/08/2007 : 17:18:22
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The Bog
is straw
so it ends up as compost for something?
Bog? Purrrleeease, you have posted a mighty fine pic of some quality thunderboxes there. |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/08/2007 : 17:25:23
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Originally posted by The Duke of Uranus
Bog? Purrrleeease, you have posted a mighty fine pic of some quality thunderboxes there.
For Sure. |
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Heathrow Protesters