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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/08/2007 : 19:01:13
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BBC London Local News
has said they are going into BA HQ and other area's
this sunday.
They have claimed to be able to mess the Police around.
It would be better if
the High Courts order this waste of a Demo area to move our right now.
Lock them up in a Scottish Jail. |
Edited by - long time no see on 16/08/2007 19:02:02 |
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Daveb
Earthsea
2371 Posts |
Posted - 16/08/2007 : 20:10:30
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We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
 Posted - 16/08/2007 : 20:35:18
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Originally posted by Daveb
Why not fly them to a Chinese jail?
Yes
Even Better.
Good point. |
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Daveb
Earthsea
2371 Posts |
Posted - 16/08/2007 : 20:48:32
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I cannot quite understand with all the "green" taxes around why aviation fuel is not taxed.
I suppose the airport tax gets the passengers but the operators (who would pass it om anyway) do not pay.
Maybe there will be significant rises in airport tax that will get frequent flyers and go straight to government.
If that stopped people flying abroad on holiday that may boost UK holidays and businesses which I guess is better for the UK?
It cannot be that they do not tax it because of the effect on business because that does not stop any other taxes.
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 16/08/2007 : 20:53:21
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Thats Easy
Un-Elected Brown is a Neo Conservative New Labour
just like Evil Blair.
Fact. |
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Daveb
Earthsea
2371 Posts |
Posted - 16/08/2007 : 20:56:19
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Och No laddie
There is more to it than that
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We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 16/08/2007 : 20:58:14
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Of course but the PM can change many things
but not this Stinking new Labour one.
Fact. |
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Tombstone Blues
Earthsea
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Posted - 16/08/2007 : 22:37:43
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
Thats Easy
Un-Elected Brown is a Neo Conservative New Labour
just like Evil Blair.
Fact.
But Blair is your Hero
Because of his Great Smoking Ban |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 16/08/2007 : 22:56:27
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Originally posted by Tombstone Blues
But Blair is your Hero
Because of his Great Smoking Ban
That is Off Topic
Do not be so Stupid.
Blair is Evil
and should be Locked away for Life.
Fact. |
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moon23
Calaspia
841 Posts |
Posted - 17/08/2007 : 09:42:22
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quote:
Originally posted by Daveb
I cannot quite understand with all the "green" taxes around why aviation fuel is not taxed.
I suppose the airport tax gets the passengers but the operators (who would pass it om anyway) do not pay.
Maybe there will be significant rises in airport tax that will get frequent flyers and go straight to government.
If that stopped people flying abroad on holiday that may boost UK holidays and businesses which I guess is better for the UK?
It cannot be that they do not tax it because of the effect on business because that does not stop any other taxes.
Becuase there is a fear that if you tax aviation fuel then it will hurt the UK economy becuase more planes will fuel up in cheaper places.
This is the problem with globalisation, no government wants to raise tax for fear of losing out on buisness. Therefore all governments try to reduce tax and pay of workers to make thier country look competitive. The big buisnesses get the benifet of cheap labour and low tax and the rich people who own them make even more money whilst the planet and people at the bottom get screwed over.
Many polluting flights are made by rich people who fly many times a year. Bring in a flight allowance and tax these private jets out of existance.
Use the money to improve the train network so we can have fast trains like Japan. |
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moon23
Calaspia
841 Posts |
Posted - 17/08/2007 : 09:45:35
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The pressure is being kept up by the Heros who are fighting for out planets future. Today they blocked the entrance to the Department of Transport.
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/08/378527.html
Stinking new labour should act to halt airport expansion
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Daveb
Earthsea
2371 Posts |
Posted - 17/08/2007 : 13:27:10
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Moon
"if you tax aviation fuel then it will hurt the UK economy"
I neglected to say it does not stop them raising other taxes on fuel and waste disposal etc whuch could also damage the economy.
So I cannot believe this is the reason. |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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moon23
Calaspia
841 Posts |
Posted - 17/08/2007 : 13:57:19
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quote:
Originally posted by Daveb
Moon
"if you tax aviation fuel then it will hurt the UK economy"
I neglected to say it does not stop them raising other taxes on fuel and waste disposal etc whuch could also damage the economy.
So I cannot believe this is the reason.
They stoped raising tax on petrol becuase the freight industries block all the depo's in a protest.
The nature of the aviation buisness means that they can fill planes up with fuel overseas etc, it would mean it would be more expensive to fly to Britan.
However this argument needs to be challanged as it is more important to raise taxes and reduce the amount people are flying. Perhaps there could be a higer tax for people who fly regularly. |
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Daveb
Earthsea
2371 Posts |
Posted - 17/08/2007 : 14:27:15
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We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/08/2007 : 14:40:40
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Oh no Daveb ... that would be far too simplistic
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Daveb
Earthsea
2371 Posts |
Posted - 17/08/2007 : 14:44:03
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Does it not already exist?
As my post previous. |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6047 Posts |
Posted - 17/08/2007 : 14:47:06
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| I know ... it does and it would be one way of ensuring that it is the frequent flyers that will pay more. I meant it would be far too simplistic for the protest mob. Surely it is far more fun to protest against flying .... |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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moon23
Calaspia
841 Posts |
Posted - 17/08/2007 : 14:53:53
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quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder
I know ... it does and it would be one way of ensuring that it is the frequent flyers that will pay more. I meant it would be far too simplistic for the protest mob. Surely it is far more fun to protest against flying ....
Mim your sweeping generalisations about is or isn't too simplistic for the protest Mob is as bad as my disregard for football fans 
Many people at the camp would welcome an increase of taxes on frequent flyers.
However this alone isn't going to stop climate change. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6047 Posts |
Posted - 17/08/2007 : 14:59:27
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| Moon, I have no problem with them protesting. I personally think they are on a hiding to nothing but far be it from me to stop them having their fun. They'd do far better spending their time productively lobbying for an increase in Airport Tax but then, they would never get to camp out and use eco-toilets and get to chain themselves to fences and things. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 17/08/2007 : 15:01:26
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quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder
Moon, I have no problem with them protesting. I personally think they are on a hiding to nothing but far be it from me to stop them having their fun. They'd do far better spending their time productively lobbying for an increase in Airport Tax but then, they would never get to camp out and use eco-toilets and get to chain themselves to fences and things.
Yes
Bang On Right. |
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moon23
Calaspia
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6047 Posts |
Posted - 17/08/2007 : 15:08:57
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quote:
Originally posted by moon23
A Protester has been arressted for failing to give his name under dracoian Sec 44 of the Terroism Act 2000.
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/08/378547.html
Why would anyone, going about their lawful business, refuse to give their name to an officer of the law? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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moon23
Calaspia
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6047 Posts |
Posted - 17/08/2007 : 15:35:33
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quote:
Originally posted by moon23
A Protester has been arressted for failing to give his name under dracoian Sec 44 of the Terroism Act 2000.
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/08/378547.html
Don't look now but you are starting to repeat yourself. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 17/08/2007 : 15:38:52
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Two Sides
The Heathrow Battle.
Sign Of The Times. |
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Daveb
Earthsea
2371 Posts |
Posted - 17/08/2007 : 15:53:14
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Cannot imagine what this nice field will look like when they all go home?
Nice and muddy I suspect. Then what?
A football stadium?
What land are they trespassing on anyway? |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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The Duke of Uranus
Barsoom
294 Posts |
Posted - 17/08/2007 : 15:59:12
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I like the cheap, imported from china, cow biscuit barrel being hung up by the student protester. Made from recycled plastic natch! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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The Duke of Uranus
Barsoom
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6047 Posts |
Posted - 17/08/2007 : 16:43:18
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quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder
quote:
Originally posted by moon23
A Protester has been arressted for failing to give his name under dracoian Sec 44 of the Terroism Act 2000.
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/08/378547.html
Don't look now but you are starting to repeat yourself.
Nor have you stated why it is so inconceivable that someone going about their lawful business should find it so terrible to give their name to an officer of the law.
Someone who is on dubious moral/ethical grounds ... that I can understand but an individual who believes in the righteousness of his/her cause should be willing to stand up and be counted. |
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Heathrow Protesters
