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long time no see
Earthsea
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camelot
Barsoom

USA
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Posted - 07/09/2007 : 23:24:40
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| Wait a minute...he wants people in the USA to convert to Islam??? He really needs to study some of the more successful televangelists here on methodology. They seem to rake in the dollars and the converts without killing thousands of office clerks. |
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long time no see
Earthsea

United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2007 : 04:16:42
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Yes you can never convert Catholics!
I am sure BornInHove will have a great view on this new video. |
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nightowl
Barsoom

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Posted - 09/09/2007 : 01:33:50
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Well,so Bin Laden suffers vanity like us mortals. Grecian 2000 works wonders but will his humanity improve with age, for theres no off the shelf cure for that..... |
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long time no see
Earthsea

United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2007 : 10:26:45
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The Americans on Fox News go "in depth" over which product he used to get the grey hairs gone.
Sign Of The Times. |
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Borninhove
Discworld

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Posted - 09/09/2007 : 13:02:42
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For a true believer like OBL the only dye he is allowed to use on his beard is henna, so it would have bright red patches where the white used to be. This is obviously a false beard.
No less obvious is the transparant appeal to 'a certain segment' of the population of the West with his recommendation to read the once-great linguist Chomsky and his hitting of the global warming and evils of capitalism buttons. Not to mention his "moral equivilance/the Christians were even worse once-upon-a-time" spiel.
The important point in this speech is the invitation. This follows the pattern of the Hadith Sahih Muslim 4294quote: When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them....If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them.
First the invitation. Then, if non-believers refuse, then the demand for Jizya (a tax on non-believers). Then, if they refuse to pay the tax, war. Those are the options we have. Convert, pay up or die.
Or we could just fight back. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea

United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/09/2007 : 13:11:19
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| Either it is a false beard or he isn't as fervent a believer as he would have us think. Is it my imagination or is he looking rather haggard? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Borninhove
Discworld

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Posted - 09/09/2007 : 13:50:06
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I'm still waiting for him to release the 'scratch' version:
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long time no see
Earthsea

United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2007 : 18:13:57
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Of course the Americans never want to understand Muslims they just want them away from America. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea

United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2007 : 18:35:28
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quote: Originally posted by long time no see
Of course the Americans never want to understand Muslims they just want them away from America.
There you go again LTNS, write off a whole nation and a whole group with a simple sentence. Talk about generalising ...
Do you know how many Americans there are, do you know how many of those are what could be classed as Americans? Do you know how many Muslims there are in the world and do you know what percentage of those are extremists?
Not that it matter eh LT ... just write them all off with one fell swoop |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea

United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2007 : 19:03:08
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Wrong GW Bush wrote them off when with Blair he Illegally Invaded Iraq. That is now Fact.
You need ro check people in Saudi, Iraq and Iran they are all classed with one brush by Evil Bush.
As for Americans since going to America since the 1970's I have used that term with no problem. They have terms for me as a Brit. |
Edited by - long time no see on 09/09/2007 19:05:09 |
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long time no see
Earthsea

United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2007 : 19:12:12
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On UK Ch4 TV & Ch4 Online now is 'The Man Who Predicted 9/11.'
He worked for Morgan Stanley in that building.
One clever American on there just said having Wars in places we do not understand it was of course, going to happen.
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gcrkfrd
Barsoom

USA
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Posted - 09/09/2007 : 19:15:49
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| I heard, there was a 27 million Dollar Reward for OBL. I did'nt have time to go to Afghanistan, so I went down to the Park and had a look. He was not there, but I was the only person, in the Crowd that spoke English, so I could not ask, if they had seen Him. |
AMERICAN BY BIRTH, UNION BY CHOICE |
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gcrkfrd
Barsoom

USA
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Posted - 09/09/2007 : 19:19:51
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What term would an American, use for a Person living in England?
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AMERICAN BY BIRTH, UNION BY CHOICE |
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long time no see
Earthsea

United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2007 : 19:20:04
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Yes big money is out there but to enter some areas of India or Pakistan would start a World War. |
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long time no see
Earthsea

United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2007 : 19:21:19
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quote: Originally posted by gcrkfrd
What term would an American, use for a Person living in England?
That is Easy.
"Limey" |
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FUBAR
Barsoom

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Posted - 09/09/2007 : 23:00:12
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quote: Originally posted by long time no see
Yes big money is out there but to enter some areas of India or Pakistan would start a World War.
I'm pretty sure lots of people go in and out of there without starting a war. Or are you slightly expanding the truth a little bit........  |
I came into the world with nothing and still have most of it left.. |
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long time no see
Earthsea

United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2007 : 23:09:05
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American Army, would start a World War. |
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Borninhove
Discworld

1028 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 05:10:09
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quote: Originally posted by long time no see
Of course the Americans never want to understand Muslims they just want them away from America.
 Keith Ellison Congressman for Minnesota Typical American Family in North America since 1742
Muslim
(LTNS overgeneralisation and stereotyping valve explodes) |
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Borninhove
Discworld

1028 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 05:37:23
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Latest on the OBL video: Californian ex-heavy metal fan wrote Osama's speech

Adam Gadahn, or Azzam the American, is the one responsible for making Osama sound like your typically deranged anti-globalisation ranter and waver of Chomsky. Adam is the fellow who wrote, about a week before his conversion to Islam:quote: I am now, as ever, a revolting geek of mass proportions
Thank God moon prefers Morris Dancing to Fundamentalist Islam! |
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long time no see
Earthsea

United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 09:08:49
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quote: Originally posted by Borninhove
Muslim
Sure you can find American Muslims that are not a threat. But with GW.Bush and his threats on Nations that he does not Understand, it is no wonder Worldwide Muslims, look forward to Bush out of office. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea

United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/09/2007 : 09:19:51
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quote: Originally posted by long time no see
it is no wonder Worldwide Muslims, look forward to Bush out of office.
And you don't? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea

United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 10:07:08
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Me I want Bush put in Prison with Evil Blair. |
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Borninhove
Discworld

1028 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 10:15:58
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And what about the subject of this thread? Do you think he deserves to be in prison, or does his 'evil' pale in comparison with that of Bush and Blair?
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long time no see
Earthsea

United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 10:20:16
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Americans want him dead to save time.
I do not think they will find him.
Sign Of The Times. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea

United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 10:29:17
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quote: Originally posted by long time no see
Americans want him dead to save time.
I do not think they will find him.
Sign Of The Times.
That doesn't answer the question LTNS which wasquote: Originally posted by Borninhove
And what about the subject of this thread? Do you think he deserves to be in prison, or does his 'evil' pale in comparison with that of Bush and Blair?
I think the subject of this thread is using the corrupted version of Islam that he subscribes to to justify his own political agenda. Yes he is evil in that he has brought into disrepute the decency, humanity and humility that is Islam. |
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Borninhove
Discworld

1028 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 12:29:30
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Life under the Taliban / Al Qaeda
Life under Bush/Blair
Which one would be worse?
A simple question with a simple answer
But not, I suspect, for some so deranged by Bush/Blair hatred that they have lost all powers of logic, reason or sense.

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No Expert
Barsoom

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Posted - 10/09/2007 : 12:44:49
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quote: Originally posted by long time no see
quote: Originally posted by Borninhove
Muslim
Sure you can find American Muslims that are not a threat. But with GW.Bush and his threats on Nations that he does not Understand, it is no wonder Worldwide Muslims, look forward to Bush out of office.
LT's selective quoting has reached it's logical conclusion. Just one word quoted. Remarkable! |
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long time no see
Earthsea

United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 13:47:48
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If bin laden goes in Prison then so should Evil Bush. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea

United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 13:52:13
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quote: Originally posted by long time no see
If bin laden goes in Prison then so should Evil Bush.
So bin laden is only evil if shrubby is?
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"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea

United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 14:02:34
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Evil Bin laden Evil Bush Evil Blair.
The Gang of 3. |
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