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long time no see
Earthsea


United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 07/09/2007 :  22:27:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1283130,00.html

Click play on the video.



Bin Laden's beard has no grey in it any more.

camelot
Barsoom



USA
366 Posts

Posted - 07/09/2007 :  23:24:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wait a minute...he wants people in the USA to convert to Islam??? He really needs to study some of the more successful televangelists here on methodology. They seem to rake in the dollars and the converts without killing thousands of office clerks.
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Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2007 :  04:16:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes
you can never convert Catholics!

I am sure BornInHove will
have a great view on this new video.
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nightowl
Barsoom



272 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2007 :  01:33:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well,so Bin Laden suffers vanity like us mortals.
Grecian 2000 works wonders but will his humanity improve with age, for theres no off the shelf cure for that.....

Edited by - nightowl on 09/09/2007 01:34:29
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Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2007 :  10:26:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Americans on Fox News
go "in depth" over which product he used to get the grey hairs gone.


Sign Of The Times.
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Borninhove
Discworld



1033 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2007 :  13:02:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For a true believer like OBL the only dye he is allowed to use on his beard is henna, so it would have bright red patches where the white used to be. This is obviously a false beard.

No less obvious is the transparant appeal to 'a certain segment' of the population of the West with his recommendation to read the once-great linguist Chomsky and his hitting of the global warming and evils of capitalism buttons. Not to mention his "moral equivilance/the Christians were even worse once-upon-a-time" spiel.

The important point in this speech is the invitation. This follows the pattern of the Hadith Sahih Muslim 4294
quote:
When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them....If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them.
First the invitation. Then, if non-believers refuse, then the demand for Jizya (a tax on non-believers). Then, if they refuse to pay the tax, war. Those are the options we have. Convert, pay up or die.

Or we could just fight back.

Valhalla, I am coming!
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6047 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2007 :  13:11:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Either it is a false beard or he isn't as fervent a believer as he would have us think. Is it my imagination or is he looking rather haggard?

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Borninhove
Discworld



1033 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2007 :  13:50:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm still waiting for him to release the 'scratch' version:


Valhalla, I am coming!
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Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2007 :  18:13:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Of course the Americans never want to understand
Muslims
they just want them away from America.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6047 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2007 :  18:35:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

Of course the Americans never want to understand
Muslims
they just want them away from America.

There you go again LTNS, write off a whole nation and a whole group with a simple sentence. Talk about generalising ...

Do you know how many Americans there are, do you know how many of those are what could be classed as Americans? Do you know how many Muslims there are in the world and do you know what percentage of those are extremists?

Not that it matter eh LT ... just write them all off with one fell swoop

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2007 :  19:03:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wrong
GW Bush wrote them off when with Blair
he Illegally Invaded Iraq.
That is now Fact.

You need ro check people in Saudi, Iraq
and Iran they are all classed with one brush
by Evil Bush.

As for Americans
since going to America since the 1970's I have used that term
with no problem.
They have terms for me as a Brit.

Edited by - long time no see on 09/09/2007 19:05:09
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Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2007 :  19:12:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

On UK Ch4 TV & Ch4 Online
now is
'The Man Who Predicted 9/11.'

He worked for Morgan Stanley
in that building.


One clever American on there just said
having Wars in places we do not understand
it was of course, going to happen.
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gcrkfrd
Barsoom



USA
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Posted - 09/09/2007 :  19:15:49  Show Profile  Send gcrkfrd an AOL message  Send gcrkfrd a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I heard, there was a 27 million Dollar Reward for OBL. I did'nt have time to go to Afghanistan, so I went down to the Park and had a look. He was not there, but I was the only person, in the Crowd that spoke English, so I could not ask, if they had seen Him.

WE ALL LIVE IN A FOREST
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gcrkfrd
Barsoom



USA
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Posted - 09/09/2007 :  19:19:51  Show Profile  Send gcrkfrd an AOL message  Send gcrkfrd a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
What term would an American, use for a Person living in England?

WE ALL LIVE IN A FOREST
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Earthsea



United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/09/2007 :  19:20:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes big money is out there
but to enter some areas of India or Pakistan
would start a World War.

Edited by - long time no see on 09/09/2007 19:20:30
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2007 :  19:21:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gcrkfrd

What term would an American, use for a Person living in England?





That is Easy.


"Limey"
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FUBAR
Barsoom



431 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2007 :  23:00:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

Yes big money is out there
but to enter some areas of India or Pakistan
would start a World War.



I'm pretty sure lots of people go in and out of there without starting a war. Or are you slightly expanding the truth a little bit........

I came into the world with nothing and still have most of it left..
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Earthsea



United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/09/2007 :  23:09:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
American Army,
would start a World War.
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Borninhove
Discworld



1033 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2007 :  05:10:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

Of course the Americans never want to understand
Muslims
they just want them away from America.


Keith Ellison
Congressman for Minnesota
Typical American
Family in North America since 1742

Muslim

(LTNS overgeneralisation and stereotyping valve explodes)

Valhalla, I am coming!

Edited by - Borninhove on 10/09/2007 05:12:15
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Borninhove
Discworld



1033 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2007 :  05:37:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Latest on the OBL video: Californian ex-heavy metal fan wrote Osama's speech


Adam Gadahn, or Azzam the American, is the one responsible for making Osama sound like your typically deranged anti-globalisation ranter and waver of Chomsky. Adam is the fellow who wrote, about a week before his conversion to Islam:
quote:
I am now, as ever, a revolting geek of mass proportions
Thank God moon prefers Morris Dancing to Fundamentalist Islam!

Valhalla, I am coming!
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Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2007 :  09:08:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Borninhove

Muslim






Sure you can find American Muslims that are not a threat.
But with GW.Bush and his threats on Nations that he does not Understand,
it is no wonder Worldwide Muslims,
look forward to Bush out of office.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6047 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2007 :  09:19:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

it is no wonder Worldwide Muslims,
look forward to Bush out of office.

And you don't?

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2007 :  10:07:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Me
I want Bush put in Prison
with Evil Blair.
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Borninhove
Discworld



1033 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2007 :  10:15:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And what about the subject of this thread? Do you think he deserves to be in prison, or does his 'evil' pale in comparison with that of Bush and Blair?


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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2007 :  10:20:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Americans want him dead
to save time.

I do not think they will find him.

Sign Of The Times.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6047 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2007 :  10:29:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

Americans want him dead
to save time.

I do not think they will find him.

Sign Of The Times.

That doesn't answer the question LTNS which was
quote:
Originally posted by Borninhove

And what about the subject of this thread? Do you think he deserves to be in prison, or does his 'evil' pale in comparison with that of Bush and Blair?



I think the subject of this thread is using the corrupted version of Islam that he subscribes to to justify his own political agenda. Yes he is evil in that he has brought into disrepute the decency, humanity and humility that is Islam.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Borninhove
Discworld



1033 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2007 :  12:29:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Life under the Taliban / Al Qaeda

Life under Bush/Blair

Which one would be worse?

A simple question with a simple answer

But not, I suspect, for some so deranged by Bush/Blair hatred that they have lost all powers of logic, reason or sense.



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No Expert
Barsoom



448 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2007 :  12:44:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

quote:
Originally posted by Borninhove

Muslim






Sure you can find American Muslims that are not a threat.
But with GW.Bush and his threats on Nations that he does not Understand,
it is no wonder Worldwide Muslims,
look forward to Bush out of office.



LT's selective quoting has reached it's logical conclusion. Just one word quoted. Remarkable!
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2007 :  13:47:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If bin laden
goes in Prison
then so should Evil Bush.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6047 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2007 :  13:52:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

If bin laden
goes in Prison
then so should Evil Bush.

So bin laden is only evil if shrubby is?

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2007 :  14:02:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Evil Bin laden
Evil Bush
Evil Blair.

The Gang of 3.
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