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BLONDIE
Barsoom
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Posted - 16/06/2008 : 14:33:27
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| WAIT, WAIT, WAIT........................THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY HAS BEEN DOING AND EACH AFRAID TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6137 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2008 : 14:37:00
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| I know ... but he has some opposition now ... |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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nightowl
Barsoom
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BLONDIE
Barsoom
256 Posts |
Posted - 18/06/2008 : 14:36:43
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If Mugabe ignores all the rhetoric, which he has done up to now, from messers Bush, Brown, Kofee Anan, the UN, the European Community, Australia et al, then as I see it the only solution is armed intervention by the UN. But that won't happen so the whole exercise is back to square one.
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Daveb
Earthsea
2420 Posts |
 Posted - 18/06/2008 : 19:50:02
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| Bet they long for the days of the British Empire! |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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BLONDIE
Barsoom
256 Posts |
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BLONDIE
Barsoom
256 Posts |
Posted - 19/06/2008 : 01:30:08
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| Duplicate post deleted. This keeps on happening. Don't know why ! |
Edited by - BLONDIE on 21/06/2008 02:56:17 |
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BLONDIE
Barsoom
256 Posts |
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Tombstone Blues
Earthsea
2246 Posts |
Posted - 19/06/2008 : 15:03:16
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the very last paragraph:
Many African leaders still see Mr Mugabe as a hero of the fight against colonialism and have been reluctant to criticise him in public.
There is a belief among some people that these leaders are privately sick of Mugabe. One correspondent from South Africa on the news this morning was saying that he believed that once the 'election' was over, and clearly seen to be unfair, they may move against him.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/mbeki-steps-up-pressure-on-mugabe-850009.html
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BLONDIE
Barsoom
256 Posts |
Posted - 19/06/2008 : 15:24:12
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Yes very true TS, but no-one is going to be the first to step forward. It's all a question of intimidation. Further, neither the heads of the Army or Police are going to relinquish their positions. They have too much to loose, plus they may well be prosecuted for "crimes against humanity'. Don't forget the massacres of the Matebele in the Bulawayo. 20,000+ murdered with the full knowlege of the British Government who stood by and did nothing. Not forgetting Grace Mugabe who will probably loose everything.
Spelling error. |
Edited by - BLONDIE on 21/06/2008 02:58:42 |
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BLONDIE
Barsoom
256 Posts |
Posted - 21/06/2008 : 02:54:22
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SEVEN DAYS TO GO. Will Changarai pull out and leave it all to Mugabe, thereby saving many lives, OR, will he go on? This is really being between a rock and a hard place. All of this would never have happened if the International Community had acted promptly instead of sitting back spouting platitudes.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7465122.stm |
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BLONDIE
Barsoom
256 Posts |
Posted - 22/06/2008 : 14:57:29
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Very very sad but in view of the International Community sitting on its hands it was inevitable.
What price Zimbabwe now?? Or should one say the Zimbabwe Peoples Republic of China.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7467990.stm |
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BLONDIE
Barsoom
256 Posts |
Posted - 22/06/2008 : 15:00:18
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| This is the SECOND time I have tried to delete a duplicated post. |
Edited by - BLONDIE on 25/06/2008 02:24:13 |
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Richie
Alagaësía
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6137 Posts |
Posted - 22/06/2008 : 21:39:21
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| If you can call that a win ... |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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BLONDIE
Barsoom
256 Posts |
Posted - 23/06/2008 : 04:48:03
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WHOOOPEEEEE ! All over bar the shouting.............or is it?
Now Mbeki and the rest of the African leaders can get on without having to worry any more, saying "Well we did try." as did the rest of the World leaders. I hope you lot can all sleep soundly in your beds at night. |
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Tombstone Blues
Earthsea
2246 Posts |
Posted - 23/06/2008 : 12:14:39
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No, I don't think it's over.
But I think it may get worse before it gets better. |
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thedelboy
Discworld
United Kingdom
1454 Posts |
Posted - 25/06/2008 : 10:46:32
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| check out Sky news !! the African leaders have now said they will not recognise fridays election and said Mugabe has to allow a fair election and they have offered their own african nations peacekeapers whether it will work or not is another matter |
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BLONDIE
Barsoom
256 Posts |
Posted - 29/06/2008 : 00:02:14
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What a lot of utter bo***cks. The African nations will now revert to argument over what to do next and eventually the whole thing will fizzle out. They are all sitting pretty in their respective countries, and nothing will happen. Forget the useless Mbeki. Mugabe and his henchmen are far too entrenched and realise that to give up power now they will end up in the Court of Human Rights. It is far too late to do anything now. Steps should have been taken YEARS ago. So it will drag on until Mugabe dies - which, heaven forbid, could be years, - and then one of his henchmen will take his place and the whole sorry story will begin all over again.
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thedelboy
Discworld
United Kingdom
1454 Posts |
Posted - 29/06/2008 : 09:44:59
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| I suppose "SKy NEWS" just reports false news then ? this morning on bbc news it has been said there will be further sanctions !thaty wont hurt Mugabe but they will hurt the people of Zimbabwe |
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Daveb
Earthsea
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Posted - 29/06/2008 : 14:00:46
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There are calls for the UN to enter Zimbabwe to restore peace.
There is no war.
Parallels with other countries such as China and Iraq make it difficult to see why the UN should enter.
Just another dictatorship but for yet another Afican country with so much potenetial it is very sad.
Zimbabwe could have so much, the land is fertile and in these times of food shortages it could be much better used.
Natural resources include coal, chromium ore, asbestos, gold, nickel, copper, iron ore, vanadium, lithium, tin, platinum group metals - All heading for China?
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We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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BLONDIE
Barsoom
256 Posts |
Posted - 29/06/2008 : 14:41:43
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It should be remembered that of the fifty odd African countries that make up the Union, the greater majority are dictatorships, and whilst they have not dragged their respective countries to the level of Zimbabwe, their Human Rights programmes leave a great deal to be desired,and there are very few, if any, who can point a 'CLEAN FINGER' at Mugabe. The once 'breadbasket' of Africa is now a basket case.
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BLONDIE
Barsoom
256 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2008 : 02:11:56
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More arguments and wool gathering but the sad fact is that no-one will condemn Mugabe outright. When you punch up the article below, take time to read the comments on the side of the item.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7480584.stm |
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BLONDIE
Barsoom
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FunnyBones
Alagaësía
Australia
49 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2008 : 04:31:04
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| My bet is that history and the plight of Sub Saharan Africans will show a direct link between PC and disaster. So long as we are afraid to be unPC, a real holocaust will continue. |
NL
It never pays a prophet to be too specific.
L Sprague de Camp |
Edited by - FunnyBones on 01/07/2008 04:37:12 |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6137 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2008 : 05:14:21
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If only it was that simple NL. I think that there is a lot more to the plight of Sub Saharan Africans then a simple direct link between PC - a very unsuccessful attempt at reconstructing reality by restricting linguistic means of expression - and disaster.
I would say that on the whole if you want to boil it down to just one or two terms it is far more the case that it will show a direct link between greed and global capitalism. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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FunnyBones
Alagaësía
Australia
49 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2008 : 11:06:05
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| Nope. Occam's Razor usually applies. |
NL
It never pays a prophet to be too specific.
L Sprague de Camp |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6137 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2008 : 11:23:22
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| Care to elaborate? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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FunnyBones
Alagaësía
Australia
49 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2008 : 14:23:11
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| Nope but it sure is not those nurture only theorys you essentially support. |
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It never pays a prophet to be too specific.
L Sprague de Camp |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6137 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2008 : 14:47:27
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Don't you just love the cut and thrust of adult debate  |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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