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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 21/09/2007 : 18:19:28
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Typical
just reported on Radio 5
the American Boss of mattel went out to China to say sorry.
The Tech Paint problem was a American Design.
One Boss of a Toy Factory in China
killed himself over this recall.
This is so typical of those Americans
who have now come clean
and said it was their own design fault
the Factorys in China folllowed their rules.
Sign Of The Times.
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Daveb
Earthsea
2420 Posts |
Posted - 21/09/2007 : 19:21:17
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I don't belive it!
It's a climb down due to some deeper pressure put on Mattel! |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 21/09/2007 : 19:23:10
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| It is typical of those Americans. |
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Daveb
Earthsea
2420 Posts |
Posted - 21/09/2007 : 19:25:00
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| Pressure from China |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 21/09/2007 : 19:30:49
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One Boss killed himself
even though it was a 100% American Design fault.
They also Reported on some UK
Toy Shops having signs saying no China Made Products.
So the Ikea Factorys & the like, that also make Toys for other deals
are doing well. |
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Daveb
Earthsea
2420 Posts |
Posted - 21/09/2007 : 19:34:48
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| Made in China by slave child labour? |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 21/09/2007 : 19:52:25
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China is nothing like the UK,
you could go into Mexico, for example, and find children also working for American contracts.
Dave you point is very valid
but start you are own thread on that
it could be a great thread. |
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FUBAR
Barsoom
431 Posts |
Posted - 22/09/2007 : 11:45:15
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I'm pretty sure that the American design probably didn't say use paint with lots of lead in it.
LTNS view of America
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I came into the world with nothing and still have most of it left.. |
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gcrkfrd
Barsoom
USA
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Posted - 24/09/2007 : 15:40:48
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If LTNS, was not Bad-Mouthing
the United States of America,
he would really, not have much to say. |
WE ALL LIVE IN A FOREST |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2007 : 15:47:11
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Originally posted by FUBAR
I'm pretty sure that the American design probably didn't say use paint with lots of lead in it.
LTNS view of America
Of Course it did.
America wants it made Dirt Cheap.
FACT. |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2007 : 15:50:28
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quote:
Originally posted by gcrkfrd
If LTNS, was not Bad-Mouthing
the United States of America,
he would really, not have much to say.
I will Bad Mouth any Corruption
like Bush/Blair /Brown
That is the UK and America.
I have been in America
I know how those Business players work.
FACT.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24/09/2007 : 15:58:35
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Originally posted by long time no see
Of Course it did.
America wants it made Dirt Cheap.
FACT.
You are sure of that LTNS? You are 100% sure that the specifications that the American manufacturer sent along with the order stated explicitly to use lead based paints? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2007 : 16:06:08
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Due to the Costings
yes it is a Fact.
And the Americans said sorry for that
that has gone down in History
Evil Americans caused the
Evil Toys.
The Americans get a Product Costed by Any Means
which means they do not care so long as they get it Dirt Cheap.
Look at the Americans McDonalds
it took a Good Docu-Movie
to stop their Super Size trick .
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6127 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2007 : 16:37:25
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
Due to the Costings
yes it is a Fact.
(...)
The Americans get a Product Costed by Any Means
which means they do not care so long as they get it Dirt Cheap.
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That wasn't what you said LTNS ... you implied that they stated they wanted lead based paints! |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2007 : 16:43:03
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Of Course they Did
so long as the get their bottom dollar costings.
Why in The Blue Hell
do You Miriam Binder Think
the American Boss said Sorry and it was not China's fault???? |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6127 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2007 : 17:08:15
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Oh there could be a thousand and one reason why the American manufacturer went and apologised and stated that it was not a China's fault ... Politics being a good 99.9% of them and FACT having little to do with it one way or another.
Ever heard of saving face LTNS? Very important in China - you don't see many American technicians killing themselves over a design fault do you? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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camelot
Barsoom
USA
379 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2007 : 19:16:20
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Originally posted by Miriam Binder
Ever heard of saving face LTNS? Very important in China - you don't see many American technicians killing themselves over a design fault do you?
It would be the end of software development.... |
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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld
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Posted - 24/09/2007 : 23:08:02
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| I`m not going to join in `bad-mouthing the Americans`, but whatever the reason - and I suspect Miriam is correct in assuming that Politics is behind it, I must admit I WAS pretty amazed that the American manufacturers did come out and admit it wasn`t China`s fault, and even then, even more amazing, that they didn`t try to fudge and justify themselves, but actually APOLOGIZED... |
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camelot
Barsoom
USA
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Posted - 25/09/2007 : 00:10:24
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| Frankly, I was astounded that these companies (I’m told more than Mattel is involved) did not test the products coming from China before putting them on the shelves. Every company I have ever dealt with has quality control teams that check products, especially those from subcontractors, for flaws. If they did not do routine quality control checks on these products, they actually ARE to blame, and I would not be surprised to see lawsuits follow….admitting it, with American courts as they are, is almost financial suicide. (sadly) |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 26/09/2007 : 18:05:19
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Originally posted by camelot
Frankly, I was astounded that these companies (I’m told more than Mattel is involved) did not test the products coming from China before putting them on the shelves. Every company I have ever dealt with has quality control teams that check products, especially those from subcontractors, for flaws. If they did not do routine quality control checks on these products, they actually ARE to blame, and I would not be surprised to see lawsuits follow….admitting it, with American courts as they are, is almost financial suicide. (sadly)
Yes
maybe they will rebrand with a New team of better Directors. |
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Borninhove
Discworld
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Posted - 27/09/2007 : 11:55:48
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I blame the Norwegians. It's all their fault
Stinking, corrupt herring-wallahs.
They made the Chinese do it.
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 Valhalla, I am coming! |
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Daveb
Earthsea
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6127 Posts |
Posted - 27/09/2007 : 20:52:00
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Not China's Fault - It was America