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moon23
Calaspia
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 Posted - 02/10/2007 : 13:35:44
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Originally posted by Daveb
Perhaps the legal deterrent to burglary should be higher?
Ten years minimum.
That would not be unreasonable.
Get real, Ten years is a huge amount of time. We would all be paying through the roof with tax if the prision population was this size. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5805 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 13:37:32
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Maybe ... but then think about all the prisons ... they seem to be full to bursting now.
I do agree that we need to look at mandatory sentencing a bit more closely though. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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moon23
Calaspia
841 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 13:40:01
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| Decent complusory treatment programs for addicts would do more to reduce the burglary rates. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5805 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 13:45:26
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| Not all offenders, though admittedly a fair number, are addicts. And addiction programs could be built into the mandatory sentencing. There is no need to take it as either or |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Daveb
Earthsea
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Posted - 02/10/2007 : 14:51:35
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Make the jails more unwelcoming.
Make the sentence a good deterrent.
Effective police on the streets to prevent crime.
Prevent crime and deter crime and the jails will not be so full.
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We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 15:07:28
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quote:
Originally posted by Daveb
Make the jails more unwelcoming.
Make the sentence a good deterrent.
Effective police on the streets to prevent crime.
Prevent crime and deter crime and the jails will not be so full.
Never under Stinking New Labour,
They have reduced Normal Police
and put in no good community people
in their uniforms.
Utter Scam.
Sign Of The Times. |
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Hambag
Barsoom
140 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 17:50:23
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
quote:
Originally posted by Daveb
Make the jails more unwelcoming.
Make the sentence a good deterrent.
Effective police on the streets to prevent crime.
Prevent crime and deter crime and the jails will not be so full.
Never under Stinking New Labour,
They have reduced Normal Police
and put in no good community people
in their uniforms.
Utter Scam.
Sign Of The Times.
If Fresh Smelling Conservatives
Become Elected by Cameron's
Middle Class Death Tax
Ten Pound Lump of Cheese Bait
On a Mouse Trap
They Will Fix The Police
And Make it All Perfect Again - FACT
Utter Utopia
Sign Of Future Times. |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 18:03:26
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'Anything' is better than Corrupt New Labour.
FACT. |
Edited by - long time no see on 02/10/2007 18:18:20 |
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Hambag
Barsoom
140 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 18:29:56
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So by definition of what you have said you consider a Veritas, UKIP or BNP government preferable to a Labour government.
The future would be safe in your hands then. |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 18:36:19
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No
BNP would not be part of any deal.
FACT.
Hambag you stick with the Devil you know
because that is what you want people to follow.
Each To Their Own. |
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Hambag
Barsoom
140 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 18:58:06
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Originally posted by long time no see
'Anything' is better than Corrupt New Labour.
FACT.
So this is not true then. Make up your mind flip flopper. New Labour is better than BNP for you, but Veritas and UKIP are preferable than Labour for you. You also would prefer a Conservative government to a Labour one.
I don't want a Labour or Conservative government, I've said it before. You eyesight must be dimming from staring at the screen too long.
You are not a constructive commentator LTNS. You moan about your popular villains without stating your alternative vision. That just makes you a waste of space. Anyone can moan and you do a lot of it. If it's all so bad, give us your plan. |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 19:06:26
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Why are you wasting time talking about Partys that do not have enough to get into
power.
You may have said you do not want it,
but you stand firm with New Labour as if they are the only party.
Brown may cause a Hung Parliament.
There is 3 Partys that can run the UK.
So when I say anything is better than Corrupt New Labour
it means the other two.
I will never Vote Corrupt New Labour in.
And it is bad - the Banks being corrupted
and no Real Police.
New Labour has had 10 years
that is more than enough time.
They Failed.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5805 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 20:30:24
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"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 20:47:39
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Originally posted by Miriam Binder
And of course everything was rosy and peachy before ...
Many would say it was never as bad as this "New" Labour.
Who are a bunch of Neo Conservatives.
The Point is 10 years was long enough,
and now Un-Elected PM Brown
is even trying to hide Blair.(as if to say he is a criminal)
That does not wash
he was part of that Blair set up.
They are ,infact, both War Criminals (Blair/Brown)
they were in Power among so much more Corruption.
And Iraq is at the Top of the List. |
Edited by - long time no see on 02/10/2007 20:48:29 |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5805 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 20:51:58
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Originally posted by long time no see
Many would say it was never as bad as this "New" Labour.
Who are a bunch of Neo Conservatives.
Let's forget the 'many would say' for a moment as you are unlikely to be able to produce any evidence to that. But you tell me how things were so much better before ... and yes, I do believe that asking you what your alternative is is not unreasonable LTNS. A vague anything would be better is hardly constructive debate. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 21:05:47
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In view of the Mess New Labour have made
both the Other 2 Partys are far better.
LibDems - No Iraq, NO ID CARD
Conservatives - No HIP, More Real Police, NO ID CARD (the most Important)
The ID CARD system will cost Billions and it will stop nothing,
just more american companys getting MEGA Contracts.
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Norbert
Alagaësía
65 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 21:39:48
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The 'Review' is a pre-election stunt, It will be forgotten the day after polling day.
In the event of prosecution in a self-defence case it is left to the jury to determine the reasonableness or otherwise of the actions taken by the defendant in the circumstances presented before the court. |
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Horseman7
Barsoom
United Kingdom
160 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 23:42:26
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Norbert - new forum member - welcome.
Happy posting.
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Self defence law to be reviewed