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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
1715 Posts |
 Posted - 28/01/2008 : 17:28:04
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| The Conservatives are cosying up to Karis. There was recently a private meeting at Hove Town Hall for displaying Karis plans to turn Dresden House nursing home into multi-million pound houses. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6640 Posts |
Posted - 28/01/2008 : 17:32:55
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Originally posted by Infinite Poppadum
The Conservatives are cosying up to Karis. There was recently a private meeting at Hove Town Hall for displaying Karis plans to turn Dresden House nursing home into multi-million pound houses.
How can councillors, who are supposed to be the representatives of the people that elected them, have a 'private meeting'. Isn't that somewhat sus to say the least? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Captain Hawkeye
Barsoom
United Kingdom
391 Posts |
 Posted - 29/01/2008 : 18:59:03
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There are other updates about the Brighton Centre, Falmer etc where this came from.
Report http://tinyurl.com/2ajsb5
Agenda http://tinyurl.com/2y8lud
From: Major Projects Sub-Committee
Date: 4 February 2008
Report of: Acting Director of Cultural Services
Subject: Project Update Reports
In November 2007, the various conditions required to be met under the terms of the agreed Development Agreement were all resolved within the timescale allowed for. In particular, a final agreement was reached which secured all of the 37% of Affordable Housing and kept this within the remit of the one social landlord - Southern Housing Group. The various other conditions were also achieved including a Satisfactory Planning Permission. The formal Judicial Review process did not in the event result in any final challenge to the Council, and therefore the Developer was in a position to confirm receipt of a satisfactory planning permission.
The project has now formally become "unconditional". This means that the Developer has 12 months, from November 2007, in which to satisfy all the planning conditions precedent under the planning consent achieved in March 2007 (and also the Section 106 Agreement completed in July 2007). The Developer will also need to start work in earnest to complete the Stage D and E design on the Sports Centre, Housing and Public Realm, and to procure a Design And Build contractor.
Assuming that the above goes to programme, and all relevant consents are achieved, a formal Vacant Possession Notice will be issued by the Developer, to the Council as landlord, within 10 months (i.e. by November 2008). The Council will then hand over the land for development during the 3 month notice period, but most likely as the notice period expires, estimated to be in February 2009. |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
1715 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2008 : 08:28:38
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| There is to be a residents' meeting about the KA at the new cocktail bar H Bar in Church Road. |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
1715 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2008 : 10:49:35
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| There is yet more about the King Alfred in Private Eye today! |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1504 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2008 : 14:04:05
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Originally posted by Infinite Poppadum
There is yet more about the King Alfred in Private Eye today!
Very interesting! Looks like the end of the line for Brian Oxley. He's been very foolish over the King Alfred. He didn't seem to realise it finished off the previous Leaders.
Mary Mears will give Karis a quick clip round the ears. And a wallop with one of her cucumbers. |
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B.O.B.
Barsoom
106 Posts |
Posted - 17/02/2008 : 08:29:26
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| new article in Private Eye this week mentions Brian Oxley, Karis rent a crowd, swift decision to pass, resignation of planners involved and refusal to show memo passed to committee by planners before it was swiftly passed. |
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Martha Gunn
Barsoom
255 Posts |
Posted - 17/02/2008 : 13:35:45
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Originally posted by B.O.B.
and refusal to show memo passed to committee by planners before it was swiftly passed.
Interesting. That's a new twist I'd hadn't heard about. Anyone know any more?
It's all sooooo dubious - can they really go ahead with it? |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
1715 Posts |
Posted - 17/02/2008 : 16:18:22
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| The group of residents who met at H -Bar were keen to explore a legal angle on the KA but it looks as if this should have been done earlier in the attempts to stop it. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6640 Posts |
Posted - 17/02/2008 : 16:34:22
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| That is the real issue whenever residents oppose anything that the council is in favour of. The legal expertise is all on the side of the council and residents have to either hit the ground running or find out too late ... |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
1715 Posts |
Posted - 18/02/2008 : 16:29:59
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| Mrs Poppadum has heard from the H-Bar group of residents that Karis has not submitted the planning application for the Dresden House buildings. These were due a while ago. Is the firm having second thoughts? |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
1715 Posts |
Posted - 19/02/2008 : 14:58:54
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| Just as the Council "signs off" the agreement with Karis for KA work to proceed within a year, Mrs Poppadum learns that Council Leader, Brian "Judas" Oxley goes to a spiritualist church - so decisions are not rationally taken in Brighton and Hove but dictated from some dodgy astral plane. |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1504 Posts |
Posted - 19/02/2008 : 21:59:57
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It is customary - even a superstitiou necessity - for there to be a "ground breaking" ceremony when such a building as this commences.
So, if it comes to that, will the Conservatives - Mayor, Council Leader and Ward Councillors - take part?
And how would that look with a General Election imminent in one of the country's most-watched constituencies?
What hold is there upon Brian Oxley for letting this scheme continue to go ahead? |
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B.O.B.
Barsoom
106 Posts |
Posted - 20/02/2008 : 07:19:15
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I think this scheme is now past its sell by date and needs a rethink but the site is obviously valuable to whoever has control over it.
Will this city ever get a new sports centre? If so maybe it could be a better designed one. |
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Control Panel
Discworld
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6640 Posts |
Posted - 20/02/2008 : 10:43:25
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| Did they not campaign on a promise to halt the KA development? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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FG1
Alagaësía
Wallis and Futuna Islands
45 Posts |
Posted - 20/02/2008 : 10:50:54
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Control Panel
Nowhere in that report does it say the conservatives are supporting the development.
A long way to go and 81 conditions to meet before it starts and can we have a campaign to keep Western Lawns free from Karis? |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6640 Posts |
Posted - 20/02/2008 : 10:53:40
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| I'd like a campaign to keep Brighton and Hove free from Karis ... but you've got my support there FG1 |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1504 Posts |
Posted - 20/02/2008 : 11:13:00
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Originally posted by FG1
Control Panel
Nowhere in that report does it say the conservatives are supporting the development.
The sub-text is that they are tacitly doing so. The Tories' refused to get to grips with the situation and simply shrugged, "it wasn't us, guv!" |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6640 Posts |
Posted - 20/02/2008 : 11:27:55
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Originally posted by Control Panel
The sub-text is that they are tacitly doing so. The Tories' refused to get to grips with the situation and simply shrugged, "it wasn't us, guv!"
I suppose it all comes down to whether you accept to concept of sins of omission as well as sins of commission  |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
1715 Posts |
Posted - 29/02/2008 : 09:50:48
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| For its proposed development at Dresden House, Karis has turned itself into Albany Cross Ltd... |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6640 Posts |
Posted - 29/02/2008 : 09:59:08
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| Isn't that highly irregular? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
1715 Posts |
Posted - 29/02/2008 : 10:11:23
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| Any number of companies can be created but to set up a new one which is not a variant on Karis makes it look as if Arghiros is trying to distance himself from the dodgy "brand" he has established. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6640 Posts |
Posted - 29/02/2008 : 10:28:46
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| Oh, I daresay ... I'd be very careful about getting involved with any company that has Josh in it though. |
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B.O.B.
Barsoom
106 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2008 : 07:22:26
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Gehry Update according to Phil Mills in Latest mag.
'Work on the £290 million King Alfred project could start as early as next February,according to the development company,Karis'.
could not will? does that mean anything at all? This followed by the usual guff from Heather James and a plea for people to buy said homes off plan. Bless.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6640 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2008 : 07:26:11
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| They'd be fools to do so ... the units are going to be above market value for rabbit hutches. The infra-structure will not be available to support them and their families should they spend their money so unwisely and ... It'll all end in tears before bedtime. Mark my words! |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
1715 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2008 : 10:43:01
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In today's Independent Gormley declares that most public art is rubbish, something developes do, put up a 20-foot to try to excuse the towers of steel and glass all around. No wonder he's ducked out of the King Alfred one...
It's down this page:
http://www.independent.co.uk/ |
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