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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld



1715 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2008 :  10:39:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good piece here about towers in general. Brighton has got it all wrong by putting the odd one here and there. If there were to be towers, and these probably do not suit Brighton and Hove anyway, they should be in clusters. But, even so, any here would only have that visual effect from out at sea. Gehry's original proposal for 4 towers made more sense than the subsequent proposal but it was the wrong place.

As the article says, Brighton and Hove should make more of their streets.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/12/heritage

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Daveb
Earthsea



2823 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2008 :  10:45:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Any new building that removes veiws should be able to be objected to in the same way as light deprevation.

KA, Marina, Ocean Hotel development are all over-the-top.

We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you!
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld



1715 Posts

Posted - 23/09/2008 :  09:46:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yesterday's Argus had a small report which said that November 9th is the date when Karis has to settle the King Alfred matters and that there will be meetings about it (in public?) in October and November.

Are these the formalities of the end game?
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B.O.B.
Barsoom



106 Posts

Posted - 24/09/2008 :  15:00:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is the i360 still going ahead? Haven't heard anything about that lately.
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld



1715 Posts

Posted - 28/09/2008 :  20:12:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Will this - a B and H tradition - spread to the King Alfred?

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/3710023.Fire_tears_through_derelict_buildings/
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1504 Posts

Posted - 01/10/2008 :  10:53:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This shows that flats in Leeds and Birmingham - "new build" - have fallen in price by up to 50%. They cannot get rid of them.

The King Alfred flats cannot possibly be built. Why is the council being so slow to announce any new plan - or overdue maintenance - for the King Alfred?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/oct/01/banking.regulators1
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Miriam Binder
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United Kingdom
6640 Posts

Posted - 01/10/2008 :  11:35:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Look, let's be frank ... this is Brighton & Hove City Council we are talking about; not some efficient, well organised and well run organisation.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Martha Gunn
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255 Posts

Posted - 01/10/2008 :  18:31:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lets face it, The King Alfred development that was given planning permission is dead in the water at the moment. Doesn't planning permission last for 3 years or something giving the developer a window of opportunity to put something in place?

Hopefully, Karis will get their fingers burned in the economic climate with their development in Black Lion Street meaning they are unable to progress although that still leaves the KA site in limbo for possibly years.
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Infinite Poppadum
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1715 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2008 :  12:25:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mrs Poppadum has just rung to say that Josh Arghiros has applied to change the application details for his dodgy-sounding restaurant in Black Lion Street - and the printed application is credited to a certain "Mr Karis".

It will take more than that to throw people off his scent, she said!
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1504 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2008 :  21:41:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here we go again...

Why are the Tories cutting this Arghiros bloke so much slack? Have they given hopes of winning Hove at the General Election?

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/3745940.King_Alfred_back_on_track/
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Daveb
Earthsea



2823 Posts

Posted - 11/10/2008 :  07:35:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Josh Arghiros has found some backers with money!
The only person that has. Cloud cuckoo land!

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Head for the hills before they start heading for you!
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B.O.B.
Barsoom



106 Posts

Posted - 11/10/2008 :  10:07:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So there is no cut off date of Nov 9th to end the contract. It can be any date according to the Council. Why mention it in the first place then.
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Miriam Binder
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United Kingdom
6640 Posts

Posted - 11/10/2008 :  10:24:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Why don't they just give Joshie boy the keys to the city coffers and be done with it?

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld



1715 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2008 :  09:39:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Perhaps these new putative backers can tell us everything we need to know about Sicily?
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Posted - 12/10/2008 :  13:36:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Infinite Poppadum

Perhaps these new putative backers can tell us everything we need to know about Sicily?



There's no doubt quite a lot of people that Karis would like to bury in the foundations.
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld



1715 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2008 :  17:53:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A piece here about people being crammed into small flats and that this might rebound on planners.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7663488.stm
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Daveb
Earthsea



2823 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2008 :  19:00:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Indeed. Houses and flats have become smaller. So much so that battery hens refuse to buy them.

If you go to any new development you will find the room too small. No cats allowed, let alone swing.

We're all doomed!
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Daveb
Earthsea



2823 Posts

Posted - 17/10/2008 :  15:21:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/3767395.King_Alfred_hopes_fade/

Never saw that coming!!!!!!!!!!!

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Miriam Binder
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United Kingdom
6640 Posts

Posted - 17/10/2008 :  15:47:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh what a shame (says she lying through her back teeth)

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Daveb
Earthsea



2823 Posts

Posted - 17/10/2008 :  16:21:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have heard of people who need eyes in the back of their head but why would you need teeth in your back?

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Miriam Binder
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United Kingdom
6640 Posts

Posted - 17/10/2008 :  19:51:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld



1715 Posts

Posted - 17/10/2008 :  19:55:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Shouldn't the headlne be "King Alfred Hopes Rise"? Hopes have risen that the horrible thing will not be built!

The Council has wasted so much money instead of repairing it until such time as it is in a position to afford something else.
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Miriam Binder
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United Kingdom
6640 Posts

Posted - 17/10/2008 :  20:17:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Can we, the hapless taxpayers, ask for an account of how much of our money has gone into this whole process from start to finish?

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Posted - 19/10/2008 :  18:09:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It was announced that the latest post is by B.O.B. but there is no sign of it.
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Miriam Binder
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United Kingdom
6640 Posts

Posted - 19/10/2008 :  18:18:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe he deleted it as soon as he posted it ... it happens sometimes.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld



1715 Posts

Posted - 19/10/2008 :  21:36:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And now ING has had to be bailed out by the Dutch government. Vast amount. They won't be rushing back to Hove.

How much cocaine had gone up those bankers' noses when they thought the seafront flats could ever be a viable proposition?

Will anybody ever trust banks again? These so-called institutions have lost all credibility in the real world.
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Edwin the Scot
Barsoom



118 Posts

Posted - 28/10/2008 :  15:48:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Novermber 8th is the last date for Karis to show that it can go ahead with the King Alfred.
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B.O.B.
Barsoom



106 Posts

Posted - 30/10/2008 :  19:15:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looking forward to the Headline soon on the Argus front page.
Gehry/Karis King Alfred Project Scrapped.
If only.
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1504 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2008 :  17:48:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The king Alfred has collapsed - and yet Mr Karis has the gall to ask for two years' grace while he tries to scrape together a few bob.

If the Tories go along with that, it's poltical suicide.
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B.O.B.
Barsoom



106 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2008 :  08:42:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
NO,NO,NO, PLEASE NO!
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