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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
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 Posted - 08/11/2008 : 11:35:07
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The Argus has now caught up with this story, and it sounds from that as if the Council is not keen to continue dealings with Karis.
Eye-catching front page. Bit of a contrast with the time when they and Councillor Watkins were boosting the "vision".
How much has been wasted on something unbuildable? |
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Edwin the Scot
Barsoom
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Posted - 08/11/2008 : 16:34:07
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| Poor taste, the Argus cover. Especially with a red poppy sitting above it. |
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B.O.B.
Barsoom
106 Posts |
Posted - 15/11/2008 : 08:06:26
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| Good article in the Architects Journal rubbishing this defunct scheme. |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
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Daveb
Earthsea
2823 Posts |
Posted - 15/11/2008 : 13:58:05
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Gehry's final comment is very eloquent.
He can take his icons and put them somewhere dark. |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6640 Posts |
Posted - 15/11/2008 : 14:11:14
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| Well, as I live and die, I never thought I'd see THAT word in print in a newspaper! |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
1715 Posts |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6640 Posts |
Posted - 17/11/2008 : 16:22:49
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| Gehry's design may have fallen victim to the credit crunch but in reality it should have fallen victim to the unsustainability of the project long term. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
1715 Posts |
Posted - 21/11/2008 : 12:12:52
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The radio has reported that Karis definitely out of the King Alfred - no chance of it coming back with any other design.
What will happen next? Experience has shown that residents have to be extremely wary. |
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Martha Gunn
Barsoom
255 Posts |
Posted - 21/11/2008 : 18:23:09
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Originally posted by Infinite Poppadum
What will happen next?
Very little I expect. Brighton & Hove have stalled on everything. Too many tax payer funded talking shops have resulted in them missing the economic boat.
Sensible approaches to the KA, Brighton Centre etc could have seen genuine progress. Still, as long as work continues on that bandstand, the Tories will feel like real progress is being made. Lets face it, the demand for Brass Band performances is huge in Brighton & Hove isn't it?
Lets hope this is the last we hear of Karis and that they take a massive finacial hit with their Black Lion St development.
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
1715 Posts |
Posted - 21/11/2008 : 19:14:13
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It looks as if the Tories will take a similar approach to the King Alfred as the previous lot.
Their geezer Ted Kemble is in the Argus's "Friday Inquisition" here, and he states that the King Alfred has permission for 750 flats - even though that was unworkable - and not for a school and that the Council itself cannot decide to have a 50 metre pool (so what sort of city is this when mere Crawley has one?). He gets shot down time and again by readers there. He even keeps referrring to the Sports Council when it's now Sports England, as somebody points out. He is evidently not to be trusted and everybody should be vigilant, especially as he also says that when there are "firm proposals" people will be consulted on those. So, yet again,. it is a sham consultation.
Looks as if Brown has got Kemble as a mole working for New Labour, says Mrs Poppadum.
http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/thefridayinquisition/3866853.Question_Councillor_Ted_Kemble_about_the_King_Alfred/#show |
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Martha Gunn
Barsoom
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Posted - 22/11/2008 : 06:48:29
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Originally posted by Infinite Poppadum
Their geezer Ted Kemble is in the Argus's "Friday Inquisition" here, and he states that the King Alfred has permission for 750 flats - even though that was unworkable - and not for a school and that the Council itself cannot decide to have a 50 metre pool (so what sort of city is this when mere Crawley has one?)
A city that has got increasingly out of touch. Brighton & Hove residents want a leisure centre (with pool) at least as good as Crawley & (for goodness sake!) Burgess Hill. They accept that to fund this, there needs to be associated housing. Why is something so clear & simple to grasp beyond the council?
Picture Brighton and Hove without the sea to its front and without the Downs at its back. Not a pretty site is it? If you take away the (non-book) library, we're basically a town that has had no real infratructure progress since, say, the mid 80's? |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1504 Posts |
Posted - 22/11/2008 : 16:45:59
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| The Tories' tactic with the King Alfred is to kick it into the long grass until after the General Election so that they can say they have obeyed residents' wishes and so hope to get Mike Wetherley in as MP - and then they can go ahead with a developer and plan of their choosing. |
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B.O.B.
Barsoom
106 Posts |
Posted - 23/11/2008 : 14:28:57
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Why can't/won't the Council provide a decent sports centre without involving a massive amount of flats. Can't it be done somehow?
They always seem more concerned about visitors( Brighton Centre) than the people who live here.
I remember when the new library was opened in Jubilee Street. The first thing they wanted to do was get rid of Hove's library, as if Hove didn't matter,because they didn't want to pay for a lift to be put in. Luckily that was averted and many people, visitors and residents, actually do want to hear brass bands play on the bandstand when it is refurbished. |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6640 Posts |
Posted - 29/11/2008 : 17:07:45
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| fascinating actually Infinite and had I been 30 years younger I would certainly have been tempted by something like this. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
1715 Posts |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
1715 Posts |
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Edwin the Scot
Barsoom
118 Posts |
Posted - 25/12/2008 : 14:24:11
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| Demolition of the tubes is underway. |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
1715 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2009 : 13:35:57
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| The King Alfred's swimming pool is closed, with no date for re-opening. Rumours that much work needs to be done. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6640 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2009 : 19:16:43
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| That's no surprise, maintenance has been kept to the absolute bare minimum the whole time this ludicrous and absurd application was going through the process. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Edwin the Scot
Barsoom
118 Posts |
Posted - 24/01/2009 : 06:13:35
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| Extractors and pumps are broken. Poor maintenance. |
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B.O.B.
Barsoom
106 Posts |
Posted - 24/01/2009 : 15:35:02
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| Where will children go now for their swimming lessons? |
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B.O.B.
Barsoom
106 Posts |
Posted - 24/01/2009 : 15:39:29
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| Where will children go now who had their swimming lessons there? |
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Edwin the Scot
Barsoom
118 Posts |
Posted - 24/01/2009 : 20:26:20
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Originally posted by B.O.B.
Where will children go now who had their swimming lessons there?
I hear that Geoffrey Theobald has a swimming pool. Perhaps he will make a noble gesture and open it up to the deprived schoolchildren. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6640 Posts |
Posted - 24/01/2009 : 20:31:29
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| Absurd isn't it ... a large city by the sea and nowhere for our local schoolchildren to learn about water safety and practise their swimming. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Edwin the Scot
Barsoom
118 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2009 : 15:42:32
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| With the removal of the tubes at the King Alfred, it looks as if the Council's intention has been to make a stand-alone feature of the public toilets. |
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Edwin the Scot
Barsoom
118 Posts |
Posted - 22/02/2009 : 15:41:07
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The man Josh Arghiros's plan for Dresden House in Medina Villas look to be going the same way as the King Alfred plan he had.
There is no work going on, and the houses are up for sale again. |
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Control Panel
Discworld
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Infinite Poppadum
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King Alfred