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Control Panel
Discworld
1537 Posts |
 Posted - 23/04/2007 : 22:43:31
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| Sounds as if people can have a breather from this King Alfred which is getting a bit wearisome. Can't see it going ahead. They ought to have set about a sensible plan for that. But the LidDems will pay the price for their craven behaviour. |
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FG1
Alagaësía
Wallis and Futuna Islands
45 Posts |
Posted - 24/04/2007 : 12:25:37
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Surely this is a momentous decision.
But the Argus says nothing in today's edition or on their website. |
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Captain Hawkeye
Barsoom
United Kingdom
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
1762 Posts |
Posted - 25/04/2007 : 15:09:39
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Today's Argus reports the story already here about the GOSE needing for time.
This time it does not mention Frank Gehry... Significant?
Has anybody seen a leaflet in which a candidate says that the King Alfred proposal is wonderful?
It does not sound as if the LibDems have dared do so in Brunswick. Let us all know if they do!
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birdy
Alagaësía
United Kingdom
81 Posts |
Posted - 25/04/2007 : 17:17:38
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The article states gose need only 28 days,i am sure it will be longer.Also where are the minites of the ka meeting and decision?The chaiman got quite shirty today at planning,after repeated pleas from the committee as to their whereabouts??
st catherines hostel got a 6 month renewal then it is supposed to close.
eco-builds got the go-ahead. |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1537 Posts |
Posted - 25/04/2007 : 22:16:46
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| Apparently, word is that Gill Mitchell says that - as expected by the Planning Dept - the flats opposite the King Alfred in Vallance Gardens were deferred. Brought to the Committee to meet some legalistic obligation but nobody expected a decision straightaway. |
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B.O.B.
Barsoom
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Posted - 26/04/2007 : 06:14:29
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| did I hear that the minutes from the KA decision meeting would not be published until after the May elections. Why? |
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morgig
Alagaësía
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Posted - 26/04/2007 : 08:32:12
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Maybe the same reason Ruth Kelly is deferring her decision until after then!
Given that redeveloping the KA site was part of Labours manifesto last time I think what happens is very much link to the outcome of the local elections.
Therefore I think they are trying to limit the distribution of what happen at the planning application meeting, so it can’t be used against them.
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birdy
Alagaësía
United Kingdom
81 Posts |
Posted - 26/04/2007 : 09:51:35
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Originally posted by Control Panel
Apparently, word is that Gill Mitchell says that - as expected by the Planning Dept - the flats opposite the King Alfred in Vallance Gardens were deferred. Brought to the Committee to meet some legalistic obligation but nobody expected a decision straightaway.
They were deferred for a site visit,who will go on the site visit?old committee or new one?it really is an outrage about the ka minites,,,dirty pool |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1537 Posts |
Posted - 26/04/2007 : 11:48:32
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The Planning Committee will, most likely, change as a result of the Election. There will probably not be a LibDem on it.
But which Councillors are on it is a matter for the parties themselves, not the public (who are not elected), although the party leaders know that they should have a strong showing on it because it is a subject which arouses as much passion as schools. |
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birdy
Alagaësía
United Kingdom
81 Posts |
Posted - 27/04/2007 : 16:55:48
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| 239 letters and 100 e-mails to gose so far asking for a call in.There needs to be alot more. |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1537 Posts |
Posted - 27/04/2007 : 20:22:09
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| That sounds to me like a lot of submissions to GOSE. |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
1762 Posts |
Posted - 27/04/2007 : 21:34:45
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Yes, it does sound a lot of letters to GOSE.
I should not have thought that such decisions are not taken on a numerical system.
They are based on the facts.
What are the reasons to object to the Gehry proposal? |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6640 Posts |
Posted - 27/04/2007 : 21:42:10
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| Doubling the number of residential units as it processed from initial proposal to the current one? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1537 Posts |
Posted - 30/04/2007 : 13:11:57
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Word over here is that the Council has leased the Black Rock site to the Brunswick firm for a yard for materials for its proposed tower etc at the Marina.
So have the plans for Black Rock bitten the dust? |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1537 Posts |
Posted - 01/05/2007 : 13:40:02
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| Apparently some Hove residents are consulting a lawyer over the way in which the King Alfred proposal was put forward to the Planning Committee. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6640 Posts |
Posted - 01/05/2007 : 14:11:46
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| Well, that should be interesting. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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FG1
Alagaësía
Wallis and Futuna Islands
45 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2007 : 15:00:09
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| After the result of the elections can the Council now tell Ruth Kelly "Forget it, we will have another planning meeting as Labour did with the Central parking zones." |
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sparkie
Alagaësía
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Posted - 04/05/2007 : 15:26:04
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Originally posted by FG1
After the result of the elections can the Council now tell Ruth Kelly "Forget it, we will have another planning meeting as Labour did with the Central parking zones."
I don't think the planning system works like that... Afterall if the council hadn't given planning permission in the first place the developers could have appealed to the planning inspectorate ( and hence the Government) anyway , which is effectively where we are now...
HOWEVER, there will still need to be load of agreements and details thrashed out between the developers and the council, assuming the plan gets the ministerial go-ahead. And the new council could make things very tricky... and perhaps even unworkable. |
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Lansdowne
Alagaësía
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Posted - 04/05/2007 : 15:38:02
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King Alfred Leisure Centre is a council development. The council is the client. So it could withdraw, though for all we know there may be contractual clauses to be adhered to.
And it was the "Greens" who threw the parking zones back not Labour. |
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Captain Hawkeye
Barsoom
United Kingdom
391 Posts |
 Posted - 04/05/2007 : 18:05:04
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Originally posted by Lansdowne
King Alfred Leisure Centre is a council development. The council is the client. So it could withdraw, though for all we know there may be contractual clauses to be adhered to.
And it was the "Greens" who threw the parking zones back not Labour.
There are probably enough clauses to keep a few lawyers busy for longer than the bank holiday weekend. |
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Captain Hawkeye
Barsoom
United Kingdom
391 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2007 : 18:09:48
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Originally posted by Drizzlecake
So what happens now with King Alfred?? All change?? Can they change the outcome, bearing in mind the vote for it was split politically?
Interesting.
I recall that the Conservatives had said they would stop King Alfred. Now we shall see. |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1537 Posts |
Posted - 16/05/2007 : 12:22:37
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The residents of Brunswick will now be paying the price for the King Alfred being voted through by Councillor Watkins.
The LibDems' collapse at the Elections means that they will no longer be on the Planning Committee. That means Brunswick residents will find it more difficult to have their views represented when buildings are proposed in their own area. |
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Captain Hawkeye
Barsoom
United Kingdom
391 Posts |
Posted - 16/05/2007 : 16:00:23
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| One hears that the King Alfred case has been transferred from Guildford to Whitehall. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6640 Posts |
Posted - 16/05/2007 : 16:06:04
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| HA! So GOSE does not feel up to dealing with it? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1537 Posts |
Posted - 17/05/2007 : 08:41:15
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| And so Ruth Kelly - or somebody - has given the Brighton station tower the thumbs-down... |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6640 Posts |
Posted - 17/05/2007 : 09:06:08
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| Has anybody any ideas as to where, or how, I might find out how many residential units are currently being built in Brighton? Not how many are proposed but how many are actually in the process of being built. I have phoned the Council and asked the planning department and I have phoned the Chief Exec office and I am getting no where fast ... or even slowly for that matter. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Lansdowne
Alagaësía
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Posted - 17/05/2007 : 11:04:15
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Not sure how you could find that out, Miriam, you'd have to study all the planning permissions given over a certain period, see how many of them have been implemented, or have not yet started, etc. Plus some developments will remove residential units that are already there which aren't listed anywhere. Plus 'informal' conversions from a single house into bedsits, granny flats, etc.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6640 Posts |
Posted - 17/05/2007 : 11:10:00
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And there you have it all in a nutshell. I would have thought that BHCC, what with the huge responsibility it has to ensure that the infrastructure runs smoothly, planning school placements, organising rubbish collection, social services, even projecting future income on potential council tax revenue, would have some sort of idea wouldn't you? Or are they really being efficient working purely on a reactive basis?
That is quite apart from the fact that it seems ludicrous that a local authority has no idea of how many operational building sites it has within its boundaries. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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birdy
Alagaësía
United Kingdom
81 Posts |
Posted - 18/05/2007 : 13:04:59
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| Looks like no call in from gose,not that i am surprised.A judicial reveiw is the only way forward now. |
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